WoW Dungeons and Raids Panel

WoW Dungeons and Raids Panel

While much of the World of Warcraft buzz around BlizzCon has thus far been focused on the pandaren race, monk class, and talent system overhaul, there remains the question: what are you going to do with all of it?

The World of Warcraft Dungeons and Raids panel recently kicked off to answer that very question. Who are the big bad guys you need to kill, and where can you kill them?

Three new dungeons were shown out of the nine total planned in the initial release of the expansion, starting with Temple of the Jade Serpent, the first dungeon you’ll encounter while leveling from 85 to 90. In this dungeon you’ll be tasked with defeating the Sha of Doubt, one of the elemental enemies threatening the shrouded continent and sacred pandaren ways.


The second dungeon previewed was the Stormstout Brewery. Chen Stormstout of WarCraft III fame is a revered figure within pandaren culture, and his brewery has been overrun by the Verming and Hozu, a couple of the less-than-savory races that also inhabit Pandaria. You’re tasked with reclaiming his family heritage… and his beer.

 

The third dungeon previewed at BlizzCon was the Shado-pan Monastery. Located in Kun-Lai Summit, this mountain retreat serves as the home and training grounds of the mysterious Shado-pan Clan, a ninja-like pandaren faction dedicated to protecting Pandaria. Again, the Sha have been set free and threaten the Shado-pan’s base of operations, and you’re tasked with dispatching them.

 

In addition to the three new dungeons that were shown, two classic dungeon crawls are getting the Deadmines treatment and will return in level-90 Heroic fashion. While they'll still be accessible in their lower-level form for those leveling their new pandaren, both Scarlet Monastery and Scholomance will be buffed up, spit-shined, and made relevant to max-level characters with new, challenging encounters and equally high-level drops. Scholomance is returning with a more streamlined layout and the Scarlet Monastery, too big to return as one dungeon, is being split up into two wings. The Graveyard and Cathedral are being combined into one level-90 Heroic dungeon, and the Library and Armory into another. Whitemane's Chapeau for everyone!

Are you yawning at the idea of more five-player dungeons? You may be interested in Challenges. This is a new time trial system coming in Mists of Pandaria for level-90 dungeons. The challenge itself may not always be difficult, but ranking will be. Do well and you'll earn a bronze, silver, or gold medal. Completing the Challenge on gold will incur a stacking debuff on future attempts: it’ll start with a 5% debuff, but if you manage to finish with a gold medal time on that run you’ll receive a 10% debuff on your next run, and so on.

In addition to realm-wide bragging rights, completing Challenges will award you with unique Transmogrification items and other vanity rewards. Oh, did we forget to mention that your gear will be normalized? Sorry, no gearing up or stacking items to get the best times -- your item level will be normalized so that even when the next raid encounter comes out and new gear drops, your world-record will stand until some other group of chumps actually has the skill to beat it.

Challenges will be enabled during any dungeon run that supports them, including those joined through the Dungeon Finder. To help get people together that are looking to achieve the same goals, a special flag will be available to only match you with others looking to do Challenges if you do use the Dungeon Finder.
 

 

One of the three new raids launching with Mists of Pandaria was also unveiled: Mogu’Shan Palace. This six-boss raid is located in the Vale of Eternal Blossoms, and invites you to explore the hidden secrets of the elusive Mogu empire, one of the new indigenous Pandarian races.
 

 

In Cataclysm, Heroic dungeons were intentionally designed as gear and difficulty checks on the progression to raiding. In Mists of Pandaria, the Raid Finder will be the appropriate transition from running dungeons to Normal raids. Heroic dungeons will largely be tuned to be about as difficult as they were in Wrath of the Lich King, allowing players to fairly quickly down bosses in PUGs and hit their Valor Point caps. Valor Points will follow a new philosophy with 4.3, as a parallel way to gear up alongside the Raid Finder, but not as a fill-in for boss drops.

The overall goal for this expansion is that any time you log in, you should be able to make some kind of progress on your character. Whether that's through Normal or Heroic raiding, queuing for a Raid Finder run, hitting dailies for rewards and VP, busting out a scenario with some strangers, or joining some buddies for a dungeon Challenge, we want you to be making meaningful progression on your character. Some ways will be faster than others, but no matter what you choose to do, you'll be making progress.

The goals for dungeons and raids in Mists of Pandaria are to create epic and challenging experiences, but Cataclysm also helped us learn where we can improve with the new expansion. The Raid Finder will help with taking that first step into endgame content, and it will be available for all Mists of Pandaria raids. Beyond that, we want to create more easily understandable encounters and move away from mechanics that simply set up groups to fail, while still keeping them challenging.

We’re also looking to address some of the issues that came with how the zones and locations were spread out in Cataclysm. While that’s largely addressed with Pandaria simply being one continent, it also includes giving dungeons and raids more of a presence in the world. All of the dungeons and raids in Pandaria exist as actual locations you can walk up to and fly over, and aren’t just encapsulated experiences hidden behind a portal.

If you’d like to watch the panel, you can replay the recording in its entirety with a Virtual Ticket.

 

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Alidio
Blackwater Raiders
Alidio
2/5/2013
yeah well, !@#$s changin we got no say what blizzard does to the game, just gotta deal with it :|
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Killeraxe
Eonar
Killeraxe
4/7/2012
Sorta wish they didn't re-do scholo and make it "a more streamlined layout" I love scholomance, should stay the way it is as a level 90 instance.
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Tenacetornal
Durotan
Tenacetornal
3/7/2012
Im going to wait til the expansion after this "cuddley" one. Sorry just sounds like bad fill to me.
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Zastie
Hyjal
Zastie
3/6/2012
"Oh, did we forget to mention that your gear will be normalized? Sorry, no gearing up or stacking items to get the best times -- your item level will be normalized so that even when the next raid encounter comes out and new gear drops, your world-record will stand until some other group of chumps actually has the skill to beat it."

I like this, I will enjoy people who are used to having the top gear(because they can use the AH) cry about how much their gear can't be part of the issue with their group failing. Gotta be prepared, but not with your gear, but with your reactions and macro settings!
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Ragmalzor
Stormreaver
Ragmalzor
3/6/2012
If the dungeons will be the same level of difficulty of WOTLK then won't it be a little too easy. I would rather the difficulty of the cata dungoens.
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Bykrumba
Ghostlands
Bykrumba
2/11/2012
" Im A BIG Panda Madness Im a Boss" lol this will be epic
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Pragan
Gurubashi
Pragan
1/2/2012
It will be awesome
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Äshßringer
Aggramar
Äshßringer
12/3/2011
lol well if thats is so, Im going to be the panda slayer OH YEA!!!!
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Seasick
Aegwynn
Seasick
11/29/2011
Omg lol, Jack Black would be hilarious....I can't wait for this expansion to come out <3 best one yet I think
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Johallianden
Nesingwary
Johallianden
11/28/2011
the new boss will be a fat panda like in kung fu panda

fat
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Harveydent
Staghelm
Harveydent
11/28/2011
Swear to the monkey lords if the pandas sound like Jack Black Im gonna find a Blizztard employee and slap him and or her.
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Zastie
Hyjal
Zastie
3/6/2012
@Harveydent: I feel the same way, I don't want them to be silly. Blizz should make them more on the serious side.
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Bonewalker
Garithos
Bonewalker
11/28/2011
We want Diablo III
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Healarus
Galakrond
Healarus
11/28/2011
I think the new panda race is going to be beast
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Snowiey
Uther
Snowiey
11/28/2011
and the new contonent also looks prety neat
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Snowiey
Uther
Snowiey
11/28/2011
i think the new monk class sounds cool
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Paulixtroy
Quel'Thalas
Paulixtroy
11/28/2011
Seems like a hurry up and get something new on the market blizz is turning in to money hungry dogs i dont get to get the best possible for my level 85 cause everything i worked for on him becomes useless to quick a new exp means you now suck balls and the gear you spent all your conquest/Valor on will be trash gear slow down with we need to come out with a exp every 11 months bull!@#$ for a fresh 50$ from every player in the world....
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Monstaah
Saurfang
Monstaah
3/18/2012
@Paulixtroy: yeah they're doing it for the money eh, Jeezus mate they're collecting $15 a month times how many million now? .. can't you whiners keep it to yaself? i didn't like cata, and left the game, i didn't cancel my subscription cause i was sure i'd like to come back some day.. this new expansion looks good to me and i can't wait, what's the prob with it bein' light hearted and pretty???

if ya'll don't like it just go and create your own super hard core, uber game that's just like WoW used to be that you liked so much, your bound to take plenty of whiners away from here... good luck to ya..
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Ûnity
Nesingwary
Ûnity
11/27/2011
Looks like Bliz is trying to push out the more mature players that have been playing since the beginning. Bring back Vanilla or BC make things hard again.
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Tddog
Kel'Thuzad
Tddog
11/27/2011
new boss : PF chang. nuff said.. but i'm guna start playin' my lock again just cus he wont b so Squishy any Moe.
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Zantavona
Baelgun
Zantavona
11/27/2011
the whole x-pack looks good instead of the new talent trees, bliz is just making all the classes more and more the same
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Kittyko
Dunemaul
Kittyko
11/27/2011
looks good so far.a new race and a new country to explore about time blizz.
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Dennedel
Silver Hand
Dennedel
11/26/2011
whats the new boss we gotta kill like deathwing in this one the new lich king or someone else?
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Rahhdag
Scilla
Rahhdag
11/26/2011
thats my opinion, no one need to say anything about my opinion
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Rahhdag
Scilla
Rahhdag
11/26/2011
that's suck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Legionxangel
Doomhammer
Legionxangel
11/26/2011
Makes me !@#$ in my pants ;)
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Chappaai
Stormscale
Chappaai
11/26/2011
I'm excited as well and also hope to PWN all continuously
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Kiragodric
Wildhammer
Kiragodric
11/26/2011
I for one can't wait to try out the new talent system and master it to my liking and conquer all in PVP WOOT WOOT!
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Quelandoris
Scarlet Crusade
Quelandoris
11/25/2011
say what you will about the talent system, and the companion battling, he dungeons, a neutral race, and the new class all sound and look pretty cool
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Colarok
Cairne
Colarok
11/25/2011
cant wait...
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Zoysia
Smolderthorn
Zoysia
11/24/2011
4.3, So can't wait to do something NEW!!!!! Raid Finder, new tier gear to farm for and replace later!!!!! I so hope they foresighted all the possibilites of getting ninja'd from a pug raid. I mean it's bad enough to have some A$$ switch it to masterloot at 15% b/c they want something off that boss and then take all the loot to vendor, or worse just take what they want and hearth out. Please make raid finder have a better loot system than what is out now for finder systems. Tanks and healers, should have priority on tank and healer gear, After all the face smashers wouldn't be looting a boss with them.
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Tourniquet
Shu'halo
Tourniquet
11/25/2011
@Zoysia: "Tanks and healers, should have priority on tank and healer gear, After all the face smashers wouldn't be looting a boss with them."

I think this has been the goal the whole time. I think the waters get muddied when it comes to spirit gear b/c I know at least sPriests and Boomkins can use it for hit if they are having trouble getting capped. I don't think spirit=healer anymore.

It was also hard, at least for me, to get people to understand that one handed mastery weapons scream Pally tank, not DK DW. I could be wrong and if so I am man enough to admit it, but that's how I feel.

So I think Tank and Healer gear needs to be more clearly defined for new and old players alike. As far as DPS not being able to loot bosses w/o Tanks or Healers, could we loot bosses w/o the DPS?
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Zoysia
Smolderthorn
Zoysia
11/25/2011
@Tourniquet: Not to be smug about it, but yea, I've seen it mulitple times where the dps went moron and died in a zul fight and the tank and healer just finished it off at 50%+. and then thast arms warrior needs out the tank plate. O.o
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Quelandoris
Scarlet Crusade
Quelandoris
11/25/2011
@Zoysia: as a dps, i do see where your coming from, and i have had a few groups where the fury warrior will need on boots with dodge, which always prompts a wtf from me. that said, ive had just as many tanks that will need on gear with crit and mastery for their "off spec"
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Broraysin
Garrosh
Broraysin
11/23/2011
is deathwing gonna be the boss of the expansion or is there a new one?
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Quelandoris
Scarlet Crusade
Quelandoris
11/25/2011
@Broraysin: sounds like these "sha" things are the main enemy. even though we dont know what these are.

no, Deathwing is killed in 4.3 during a raid called dragon soul. that fight is incredibly hard even on normal.
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Bandagespec
Ner'zhul
Bandagespec
11/23/2011
For the dungeon challenges shouldnt the icon (not colors) for the gold and bronze be switched? The "three" pieces kinda feels like "third place" and the one radially symmetrical shape feels like "first place."
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Beornin
Proudmoore
Beornin
11/23/2011
@Bandagespec:

You know - you're exactly right. I'm a visual designer, and I thought there was something not quite right about those icons.

The current gold icon split in three visually reinforces "third" and the current bronze icon with the centered shape reinforces "first."

Nice catch. I hope someone from Blizzard sees this.
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Quelandoris
Scarlet Crusade
Quelandoris
11/25/2011
@Bandagespec: lol thats a good point! it does look kinda messed up
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Ashbringêr
Alleria
Ashbringêr
11/23/2011
So what do the new dungeons drop gear wise? ilvl 359?