Diablo® III

I can melt mp9/10 as is. What next?

I can grind up to P100 and could probably get another 10kdps for under 80Mil, but wondering what I should bother doing next? Playing AH3 while it still exists might net me enough cache to buy another upgrade, but unless I start dropping 400M+ on items, nothing serious I see on the upgrade side for DPS and my survivability is pretty darn good right now. Gold <100Mil right now, but I have a bunch of stuff I probably could sell to get another 100M if I wanted. Just looking for opinions on which mountain to climb next before I get bored and wait a few months to play again.
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Build other toons. It;s seriously diminishing returns from now on with your wizzy. Lots of gold for little gains. I have a little more gold than you but set a goal of 500m per class I want to take to paragom 100. did WD and Barb already. Monk and DH left. better than wasting 2b on say a better source for my CM wizard for like 4K dps or like 1.3% in real terms.
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10k dps for 80m is crazy cheap. game is all about gear. Either upgrade or roll another toon. :S
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Try hardcore mode and now do the same with only 1 life.
Edited by EstiDeKaliss#1449 on 10/19/2013 9:05 AM PDT
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How can you melt mp9/10? I can get 315k dps on my archon, but I really don't think I can sustain it on mp10...
I'm not criticizing, just curious really, do you play in parties or anything?
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10/19/2013 02:21 AMPosted by Aimless
Build other toons. It;s seriously diminishing returns from now on with your wizzy. Lots of gold for little gains. I have a little more gold than you but set a goal of 500m per class I want to take to paragom 100. did WD and Barb already. Monk and DH left. better than wasting 2b on say a better source for my CM wizard for like 4K dps or like 1.3% in real terms.

What you say is true, but it's so hard to spend gold on a character you don't care quite as much about, when you know it could be going towards your main; for me it is anyways.
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How can you melt mp9/10? I can get 315k dps on my archon, but I really don't think I can sustain it on mp10...
I'm not criticizing, just curious really, do you play in parties or anything?

+1, people had 500+k dps buffed year ago but u need more like 700+k dps buffed if u wanna do solo mp10 efficiently. (im talking bout archon oc)
Edited by aw3s0m0#1140 on 10/21/2013 1:22 AM PDT
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What do you mean by +1? Is it a "yes, you can do it on mp10 solo with 300k", or a "you can do it with a party"?
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I'm pretty sure you can't do mp10 efficiently even with a 700+k dps archon.

And by mp10, I mean mp10 Inferno, solo, and most content of the game. If you're in a party, then almost any class/build can leech and be successful in mp10.
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10/21/2013 06:56 AMPosted by RedSkull
What do you mean by +1? Is it a "yes, you can do it on mp10 solo with 300k", or a "you can do it with a party"?

you can't melt things on mp9/10 with 300-350k dps(buffed) archon.

10/21/2013 07:10 AMPosted by kiza
I'm pretty sure you can't do mp10 efficiently even with a 700+k dps archon.

~750k dps archon(with ls weapon, blood magic, n prismatic or high ehp) should be good for mp10 solo imo.
but even ~400k dps buffed can be fine if u play with others. (i.e. mp10 crypt run)
Edited by aw3s0m0#1140 on 10/21/2013 7:26 AM PDT
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Show me an archon that is efficient in mp10. Tell him to post here and we can test.
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What do you mean efficient? DIdnt void just archon and CM MP10 FOM in similar times? Thread around here somewhere about it.
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Found it
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/10138974259
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well I get ~607k dps buffed with ls weapon, blood magic n prismatic(cos i have low ehp) and i can keep up archon in mp8 solo without problem.

mp8 => mp10 = ~18% extra monster hp
600k => 750k = 25% extra dps

i don't know many high dps archon, but mysticglow's wiz can do mp10 archon without problem i think.
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10/21/2013 08:08 AMPosted by aw3s0m0
mp8 => mp10 = ~18% extra monster hp


i'm pretty sure thats wrong.

mp8 - mp10 = ~ 100% extra monster HP

taken from here http://www.diablowiki.net/Uniques_hp_values
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i'm pretty sure thats wrong.

mp8 - mp10 = ~ 100% extra monster HP

taken from here http://www.diablowiki.net/Uniques_hp_values

my mistake, mp8 => mp10 = ~96% extra monster hp. (mp8=1755%, mp10=3439%)

i got the info from this site but and only looked at first table(mp8=340%, mp10=400%).
http://www.diablowiki.net/Monster_Power
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@aimless
Efficient means going through content without dying or very few deaths and killing champion pack in, say around 20 sec or less. MP10 is what I described above.

@aw3s0m0
All we need now is mysticglow to accept. We can do a run together. I'll be waiting.

And welcome back!
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Ok, melt was too strong an adjective. I am efficient solo at mp9, but 10 is a bit slow outside of multiplayer. By efficient, I mean I don't die unless I am stupid and I've foolishly allowed my pew/pew to go away while fighting a particularly bad @ss elite pack.

Now, I believe that the difference between a 330k buffed Archon (where I am now) and the next level of killing efficiency at ~400kish is around 300M per item per slot. Getting to 550kdps+ is 2Bil per slot. I don't really feel like farming/flipping/buying 2Bil gold and so this game got boring and I left for a few months.

After coming back, I've found that the game is easier than I remember and the prices on stuff has dropped a little - I can actually find top level stuff on the GAH again. But, again, outside of flipping, lucking, or begging, 2B is still an order of magnitude beyond my means.

Wish I had sold some cracked daggers for 2Bil during Zimbabwe economy, dupe gold for free day. :P

So yeah, whining a bit that I hit a wall bigger than I want to climb.
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And I thought archon wizard is easy mode for mp10. Now I see
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