i'm gonna try to make 4+ p100 wiz for the xpac, cos imo archon wiz is the easiest n fastest way to make p100. (n its also the most fun for mp10 crypt runs, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewoJABqAVPg)
I appreciate that you cited your reason behind why you feel archon is the easiest and fastest however; logically this deduction can only come from solo play. In theory archon could be seen as the slowest of the many classes because it doesn't buff the rest of the group and archon has lower multiplicitive skills.
Stop confusing the noobs, and have fun.
Apparently the logic is beyond you. I will explain again:
1. Crypt runs are boring. Fun does not equate to boring, to me.
2. You do a crypt run with a group. The other members in your group determine how fast it is.
3. You don't buff the group in archon form, so they do less dps and you are slower.
It doesn't mean that it isn't fun for some. It doesn't mean that it isn't fast, for some groups. I'm not saying that archon isn't the most faceroll class in the game right now for crypts. It is.
Different strokes for different folks bro.
Archon is bad for group runs if the Archon user him/herself contributes less DPS for the team's eDPS than would a fourth player that runs support skills and buffs to increase the team's eDPS. Not talking individual multipliers or anything. If a SNS wizard, Cyclone-EP monk, Cyclone-Guiding Light monk, CoB WD (or Cyclone monk + 2x CoB WD) combine for 40M eDPS and you sub out a Guiding Light monk for a 500K DPS Archon and drops the eDPS, I'd take out that Archon. Same with a WW barb and RF DH, characters that don't really help a team besides adding DPS. Such DPS has to be insanely high in order to make up for the replaced buffs from another character.
But when your team starts running so fast that the Archon can AFK behind a party and reach 7-10 minutes on the duration on MP10, it really makes no difference. But if a team needs DPS, that Archon better provide more DPS than a buffed up team.
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How much DPS (buffed) are we talking about? I really want to roll an Archon wizard for my next one, and want to make sure I can display enough DPS to be welcomed in Crypt runs.
Rufio!!11/01/2013 11:30 AMPosted by MelkorBangarang, do try and not shred this guy up, would you?
This is just speaking from experience running with a team of multiple Archons, myself as an Archon, myself as a support monk with an Archon teammate, amongst other combinations of classes running different builds and stats on gear. Also, this is while running with the mentality that we want to get as much EXP as fast as possible—beyond casual play, but without any intent to break EXP/hour records.
P.S. Void, if you see this... holy crap, this just reminded me of that time when you, me and Peter all ran our 650-700K+ DPS Archons.
11/01/2013 01:32 PMPosted by GunnersDreamFor crypts, I actually really prefer a decent dps archon to most other wizard builds since the bulk of it is shooting things in narrow tunnels, which archon just dominates at.
11/01/2013 01:39 PMPosted by JaetchI'd like to coin a term called "Laser Lethargy," which usually happens to Archon wizards that get too entranced or anesthetized with the constant beaming that they forget what they're supposed to be doing.
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