Diablo® III

Mission; Clear Mp10 Pre-RoS (Paragon 90!)

Just wanted to make a thread where i can keep track of my self found monk and ask for advice as i try to rush a full clear Mp10 pre-Ros.

Is it ok if i make this thread here/update it periodically as i journey? If not ill let it die if it rubs people the wrong way.

28/11
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Cleared Mp2 act 2 no problem, had a good zuni ring drop with dex/OS/armor, also several minor upgrades including legendary vigilance weapon. Should fullclear mp2 tonight or tomorrow.

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Short term goals

- Find dex glove plan [x] 9/12 http://i.imgur.com/8ESCCfO.png
- Paragon 30 [x] 12/12 http://i.imgur.com/0cT3714.jpg
- Mp5 Ubers [x] 26/12 http://i.imgur.com/QOkLH5r.jpg
- Find a skorn [x] 12/01 http://i.imgur.com/ucwWGLk.jpg
- Mp6 Ubers [x] 27/12 http://i.imgur.com/9IHjvUr.jpg
- Mp6 Clear [x] 29/12 http://i.imgur.com/GDkDrZ5.jpg
- Paragon 40 [x] 30/12 http://i.imgur.com/UgETKjB.png
- Paragon 50 [x] 08/01 http://i.imgur.com/yGtUiNp.jpg
- Paragon 60 [x] 14/01 http://i.imgur.com/hUpSPMJ.jpg
- Paragon 70 [x] 25/01 http://i.imgur.com/fEpVVoO.jpg
- Mp7 Ubers [x] 26/01 http://i.imgur.com/Erl5dkD.jpg
- Mp7 Clear [x] 10/01 http://i.imgur.com/uEKqdfh.jpg
- Complete Nat-2pce [ ]

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Long term goals

- Complete Mp8 Ubers [ ]
- Complete Mp9 Ubers [ ]
- Complete Mp10 Ubers [ ]
- Craft Radiant Star Amethyst [x] 10/02 http://i.imgur.com/35NGxAX.jpg
- Craft all Flawless Star Emeralds [ ]
- Reach 100k DPS [ ]
- Paragon 80 [x] 01/02 http://i.imgur.com/0SX5bLW.jpg
- Paragon 90 [x] 15/02 http://i.imgur.com/0Fw708f.jpg
- Paragon 100 [ ]
- Find a Dex skorn with LS [ ]
Edited by BoozBear#1811 on 2/14/2014 11:05 PM PST
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Knock yourself out. Good luck. I've gotten through MP8. Overg has gotten through MP10.
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This is a fine use of the forum. Good luck. I look forward to following your progress.
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Good luck to you! They key is really going to be getting a lucky weapon drop. If you can find something like my Skorn sooner rather than later, you've got a shot. Just FYI, you're going to want to target approximately 150K PDPS, 5,500 armor, and 550 AR to have a shot at Belial on MP10. You'll probably need to bump that PDPS up to about 175K if you also want to clear the MP10 ubers.
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@Booz. Add me in game. Maybe we can play together. I like to play my SF monk, but it's boring to play alone. This goes for any other SFers. I can do about mp4-5 right now with my male monk. It might be kind of a fun challenge to see which mp I can full clear (haven't full cleared since mp2)

Here's my SF monk: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Amiar-1992/hero/18501676
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11/28/2013 06:21 PMPosted by Vrkhyz
Knock yourself out. Good luck.


Thanks, hopefully i can catch up to you!

11/28/2013 07:46 PMPosted by Demiwraith
This is a fine use of the forum. Good luck. I look forward to following your progress.


Cheers bud!

11/28/2013 07:47 PMPosted by overg
Good luck to you! They key is really going to be getting a lucky weapon drop. If you can find something like my Skorn sooner rather than later, you've got a shot. Just FYI, you're going to want to target approximately 150K PDPS, 5,500 armor, and 550 AR to have a shot at Belial on MP10. You'll probably need to bump that PDPS up to about 175K if you also want to clear the MP10 ubers.


Thanks Overg, what i forgot to actually mention in the OP is that the only reason im even playing diablo again is actually cause i read ur 50 points post ages ago when you first posted. Got around to making him just recently and having a blast! But ye, praying for that skorn drop.

Im having so much fun with the 2hander build ive just cropped up at the moment and just finding.... well everything is so much fun, thank you so much for your thread!

@Booz. Add me in game. Maybe we can play together

Here's my SF monk: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Amiar-1992/hero/18501676


Will do! Your monk is impressive no way i could keep up in anything that would interest you just yet. Im playing alot at the moment though so mayb i can catch up.

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Also a question, right now im building up alot of demonic essence cause i havent being crafting with it yet, what is, in everyones opinion the better crafts to spend your demonics on? Its my understanding that tomes are the main limiter but i havent had that issue just as im only crafting emeralds and amys. The only crafts ive found so far are the vit shoulders and the vit ammy.

So out of the shoulders/bracers/amy/chest plans what do people think is the better investment? (i know it can be very situational but all of my gear is still quite subpar)
Edited by BoozBear#1811 on 11/29/2013 1:39 AM PST
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Small update 2/12
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Being busy but finally managed to play some today, finished off mp2 without much issue and pushed into mp3, finished act 1 easily enough.

Got a razorspike plan but was intelligence x.x

Dinged para 16 and also got a sidegrade defensive pants option (good cold monk pants especially tho)

Goblins are becoming a bit harder now, still have had none escape but can see mp4 being a problem without some gear upgrades in the near future.

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Also another question to add to the ones in my previous post, as a self found char tomes are the main limiter correct? So theres basically no point going out of my way to pick up big 2k+ gold stacks?
Edited by BoozBear#1811 on 12/1/2013 6:19 AM PST
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Update 4/12
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Full cleared all acts on MP3, will probly rest here until some more gear upgrades as im breaking even on potions for the most part at the moment.

Taking screenshots when belial goes down on each MP now, altho this first one i forgot to start the fight in window mode (doh) so the screenshot is of hes floating soul QQ - http://i.imgur.com/ZGXsaZk.jpg

Also probly one of the nicest feelings in self found; http://i.imgur.com/NSDWSNY.png

All dem green numbers ._.

Also still looking for any help in regards to the questions in my previous posts if any1 is willing to help!

Cheers.
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as a self found char tomes are the main limiter correct? So theres basically no point going out of my way to pick up big 2k+ gold stacks?


Hey Booz, keep the updates coming. Always interesting to read about other player's exploits.

I'm sorry I can't offer any suggestions about what piece of gear to start off crafting. I kind of randomly did them all at once. I've never paid much attention to what crafts have what potential.

With respect to mats, tomes are definitely your most limited resource, but I wouldn't ignore gold. If the only thing you are crafting is gems, you should have more than enough gold to get you by. But if you want to also do some gear crafting, every extra piece helps. I know that my stash shot up and down a lot when I was both crafting and gemming.

In terms of scarcity, tomes are the scarcest, then gems, then gold, but they're not that far off from being balanced against each other.
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Hi Booz,

This sounds like a fun thing to do while waiting for RoS. Can I ask how you started? Did you start a new character or with a level 60 that you just brought some vendor gear for?

I played HC Self-Found for a while and managed to get 2 characters to Inferno just playing MP0, but with my latency and huge lag spikes at the time I stopped. Too nervous :)

Good Luck getting more of those green numbers!!
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Thanks Overg, always appreciate you stopping by! Thanks for the detail3e answers.

@Oak I started a new character at lvl 1, i had some softcore stuff in my stash that was left from pre-patch 1.0.3 (or the first inferno nerf).

So i vendored/dropped all of it then bought vendor items and resold them back to the vendor to liquidate (waste) all my cash. This way i started with 0 gold and nothing else. The only advantages i started with was a fulled lvl'd blacksmith/jeweller, but all the plans they had were self found as it is ^^
Edited by BoozBear#1811 on 12/3/2013 6:21 PM PST
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Here's a tip for killing goblins: keep am extra set of items in your inventory. It should consist of something like your fastest pair of boots, an item with a high freeze or stun proc rate on it, and a good Sever. I used to carry a combination of gear swaps: one for "protected" goblins (i.e., goblins surrounded by other mobs), and one for "isolated" goblins (i.e., those on their own). The former maintained most of my defensive stats but was very good against demons, and the latter was pure DPS, but focused on demons.

P.S. Goblins are demons!
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Hey Booz. Way to go.

If I had to guess, I'd say you could start by crafting some Dex Bracers / Vit gloves, Since you don't have any AR on either and you'll start needing some of that. (Hopefully you're not married to the full move speed). On both of those, you'll need about 1 out of 5 good rolls to get gear even to where you are, and 2 out of 5 rolls to exceed it. You should find upgrades quickly.

Of course, that's assuming you've got the recepies. Also, if you find tomes limiting, remember that Dex chests only cost 2 tomes, come with more Dex than you've got right now, and come from a recipe that you're guaranteed to find.

Not to be forgotten: Hellfire rings. Free super Dex roll and that Hellfire ball is a ton of damage on low MP. And awesome XP bonus. There's a reasonable chance of rolling one better than one of your current rings as well. I made sure to get my first HF ring in HC when I was still on MP-2. I found roughly that if I could handle all of Act-4 and Belial on an MP, I could do the Ubers on that level or one level lower.

Only other random piece of advice I wanted to throw your way is that if you want to maximize the rate that you advance, you probably don't want to play on your max MP. Play on an efficient MP. Framing fast is often better than farming high. Actually take the time to benchmark your runs; time them and check your XP before and after. See what maximizes your XP per hour. DO the same with builds.

Good luck to you, man.
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12/03/2013 06:28 PMPosted by Vrkhyz
P.S. Goblins are demons!


I knew they were evil, but did not know they were demons :) Good to know.
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12/03/2013 05:43 PMPosted by BoozBear
@Oak I started a new character at lvl 1, i had some softcore stuff in my stash that was left from pre-patch 1.0.3 (or the first inferno nerf).


Hmm, having done it a few times on HC I am not sure I could stand doing the 1-60 grind again without any leveling assistance. Might have to make up some of my own rules.
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12/03/2013 07:45 PMPosted by Oakover
@Oak I started a new character at lvl 1, i had some softcore stuff in my stash that was left from pre-patch 1.0.3 (or the first inferno nerf).


Hmm, having done it a few times on HC I am not sure I could stand doing the 1-60 grind again without any leveling assistance. Might have to make up some of my own rules.


I've done some self-found grinding for a while with some friend. What we have done was to get powerleved up to inferno, at lvl 60, and just craft a 4 random roll recipe for each slot. You will end up with like 15k life and DPS, so all this stuff will be replace in the first hour anyway.
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12/04/2013 12:28 AMPosted by mTeasdale
I've done some self-found grinding for a while with some friend. What we have done was to get powerleved up to inferno, at lvl 60, and just craft a 4 random roll recipe for each slot. You will end up with like 15k life and DPS, so all this stuff will be replace in the first hour anyway.


Yeah that was what I was thinking.
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12/03/2013 06:28 PMPosted by Vrkhyz


P.S. Goblins are demons!


Thanks for the tips bud! No sever yet either way tho xD

12/03/2013 07:01 PMPosted by Demiwraith
Hey Booz. Way to go.

If I had to guess, I'd say you could start by crafting some Dex Bracers / Vit gloves, Since you don't have any AR on either and you'll start needing some of that. (Hopefully you're not married to the full move speed).


Yep, thats what i was thinking gloves especially. Gloves is such a huge damage slot and mine are very subpar at the moment so im prayin for a vit/dex glove plan drop!

12/03/2013 07:01 PMPosted by Demiwraith

Of course, that's assuming you've got the recepies. Also, if you find tomes limiting, remember that Dex chests only cost 2 tomes, come with more Dex than you've got right now, and come from a recipe that you're guaranteed to find.


No dex/vit recipes in gloves/bracers/chest yet unfortunately :( Also what do you mean by garunteed to find?


Not to be forgotten: Hellfire rings. I found roughly that if I could handle all of Act-4 and Belial on an MP, I could do the Ubers on that level or one level lower.


Im workin on keys at the moment somewhat, doin middle of the road runs where i clear a couple of the denser areas for loot/exp and then kill key warden. Mp3.

12/03/2013 07:01 PMPosted by Demiwraith

Only other random piece of advice I wanted to throw your way is that if you want to maximize the rate that you advance, you probably don't want to play on your max MP. Play on an efficient MP.

Ye ofc! In saying this though im not going full grind mode im just playing what feels fun at the time while still aiming for some level of efficieny. If i wanted to advance as fast as i cud id just sit in act 1 on some low mp for days and weeks and then once ive being lucky enough to get the gear i need go blitz throu the high mp's. But thats boring as hell xD

12/03/2013 07:01 PMPosted by Demiwraith

Good luck to you, man.


Thanks bud, really appreciate the tips! Feel to drop by any time.

Update 5/12
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Got me some vile wards! (dex ones to)

Mind you i dont think i could have rolled them any worse if i had even tried lol.

Paragon 22 now, also finally managed to upgrade all of my gems to at least star or higher which i was very happy about, clearing mp3 with ease now, think i will be ready to clear mp4, especially if i trade out move speed items for offense/defensive options.

Heres how everything looks so far. (and the crappy (but still good!) vile wards)

http://i.imgur.com/df3XsGO.jpg
Edited by BoozBear#1811 on 12/4/2013 4:23 PM PST
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Of course, that's assuming you've got the recepies. Also, if you find tomes limiting, remember that Dex chests only cost 2 tomes, come with more Dex than you've got right now, and come from a recipe that you're guaranteed to find.


No dex/vit recipes in gloves/bracers/chest yet unfortunately :( Also what do you mean by garunteed to find?


I think Ghom runs may be the best way to find recipes? ANyway, just make sure you're killing some bosses and not just elites when you farm because some bosses drop plans with much higher frequency, I think. Honestly, I haven't bought many plans from the AH, but I found every BoA and jeweler plan much faster than a lot of people did, I think. It's possible it's because I tend to just play through quests and so fight more bosses than people who just farm trash/elites.

As for the guaranteed recipe finds, I was just referring to the fact that all the Chest BoA recipes are sold by the Vendor in Act 2, not dropped.
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12/05/2013 10:00 AMPosted by Demiwraith


I think Ghom runs may be the best way to find recipes? ANyway, just make sure you're killing some bosses and not just elites when you farm because some bosses drop plans with much higher frequency, I think. Honestly, I haven't bought many plans from the AH, but I found every BoA and jeweler plan much faster than a lot of people did, I think. It's possible it's because I tend to just play through quests and so fight more bosses than people who just farm trash/elites.

As for the guaranteed recipe finds, I was just referring to the fact that all the Chest BoA recipes are sold by the Vendor in Act 2, not dropped.


Thanks for this info, after reading this i did some research and found this; http://www.diablohub.com/guides/patch-1.0.7-crafting-guide/

Basically all mini bosses drop plans like keywardens drop keys dependant on ur mp lvl etc.

Was doing ghom runs with keyward for a while, got the dex shoulder plan so far, no luck on gloves or bracers yet tho.

Doing izual/keyward runs on mp4 at the moment to try get the plan.... its painfully hard the debuffs of the monsters in a4 are just shredding me.

Will do a update once i make some progress.

Thanks again!
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