Diablo® III

Mission; Clear Mp10 Pre-RoS (Paragon 90!)

Update 9/12
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Wish i had more to report honestly, had being holding off this update in hopes that it would have news of the glove dex plan finally dropping but no luck so far.

Have being soley running ghom/siegebreaker runs on mp4 with keywarden tied onto the end for the past 3 days or so.

Found every single intelligence plan at least twice by now id say, BUT did make some progress, finally got the dex razorspikes plan which i wanted for ages. Just want the glove one more!

Also found a flying dragon legendary a few days ago.... what i would do for this thing to have rolled life steal, its so much fun! Have literally imploded myself on reflect packs with 1 bell after a blinding flash. So i swap in and out between this and my vigilance if i need it.

Going to start adding short/long term goals to the first post as i progress.

Now! Back to farming that glove plan is hiding somewhere!

Edit: Mini update, just got the vit glove plan QQ
Edited by BoozBear#1811 on 12/8/2013 1:57 PM PST
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Finally!

http://i.imgur.com/8ESCCfO.png

Edit: So after getting the plan crafted about 17 pairs, wasnt that stoked with any of them, salvaged most of them and crafted 1 more set with the mats from them

http://i.imgur.com/Qb6ynEv.png

=) Happy camper. Tips me over 40k dps when using my non-ls weapon.
Edited by BoozBear#1811 on 12/8/2013 3:04 PM PST
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12/08/2013 02:55 PMPosted by BoozBear
Finally!

http://i.imgur.com/8ESCCfO.png

Edit: So after getting the plan crafted about 17 pairs, wasnt that stoked with any of them, salvaged most of them and crafted 1 more set with the mats from them

http://i.imgur.com/Qb6ynEv.png

=) Happy camper. Tips me over 40k dps when using my non-ls weapon.


Nice, rolled 6 useful stats and pretty high ones too.

You wont ever need to roll gloves again. WOW.

gl on your road to mp10 self-found. You are a prime example of how we dont need BOA to still play this game functionally.... Its very rewarding to play self-found even with a market right beside you that tempts you into buying all of the best gear. There is no rush into playing mp10 ASAP.
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Also found a flying dragon legendary a few days ago


One of the nice things about playing self found is that you actually get a chance to use weapons like Flying Dragon without feeling like you're completely gimping yourself. It actually *can* be the best item you have available.
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[quote]One of the nice things about playing self found is that you actually get a chance to use weapons like Flying Dragon without feeling like you're completely gimping yourself.


This was the exact thought/feeling i had while playing, just chilling procing this 2x atk speed legendary weapon and having fun!

Update 12/12
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Probably my last update for a while as my fiance arrives tomorrow morning from America.

With all my new upgrades i new it would be easy but just for claritys sake i did a full Mp4 clear today, belial pic included; http://i.imgur.com/jHkif6x.jpg

Achieved paragon 30; http://i.imgur.com/0cT3714.jpg

And made some nice bracers as well. Have started using no move gear while progressing and makes me quite a bit stronger.

Speaking of crafting i was wondering as to wether any1 would like to pitch in on opinions on what i should try crafting right now, between my gloves/bracers/chest/ammy im all OK with how they are at the moment. All could be somewhat better though which is the problem and right now gold is actually my biggest limiter, i currently have about 700k to my name i think i last looked.

So with a gold limitation in mind any suggestions as to what i should keep attempting to craft?

Anyway, thats it for now, i have 6 act 3 keys and 4 act 1 keys at the moment, i plan to make 6 machines and full clear mp4 ubers and mp5 ubers when i play next, then go on to a full mp5 clear, will update when i can.
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Update (!!) 27/12
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Being a while! My mrs from america arrived so had a weeks holiday then with christmas and stuff hadnt had much chance to play. But these last few days i put in a spur of effort and have made some progress finally!

First off, had being having some pretty crappy drop luck, was gettin pretty crushed as the class specific legendarys kept dropping, nothing for monk. Had a oculus ring drop that would have being a 100% upgrade but it rolled strength... so was pretty sad.

Not to long after that though some IK boots dropped, sad once again until i identified them (http://i.imgur.com/uSutlB6.png) with a awsome 172 dex roll. Pure upgrade and now have a move speed item for even my progressive gear!

Moving on, did a full mp5 clear with belial pic; http://i.imgur.com/1V6Lt8M.jpg

Also got my 6 machines, had being so long since i made the last post that i had forgotten that i was going to attempt mp 4/5 and just skipped straight over 4 to 5, cleared all mp5 ubers, still have 3 machines left. Will attempt to clear mp6 ubers tomorrow, but im not sure how ZK will go.

Mp5 Ubers;
http://i.imgur.com/E1Pt231.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QpB5V2M.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/QOkLH5r.jpg (Zoltun/SB!!)

Last tid bit of news, aside from the IK boots not many upgrades, some sidegrades here and there, did manage to pick up a wonderful sunkeeper tho for the templar, bad roll of 41% mf but still better then nothing!

To finish, id like to ask some advice. With RoS recieving a release date finally ive come to the realisation that its probly unlikely ill clear mp10 before it arrives, im going to try though!

In saying this though ive really started to kick it into efficiency mode, tryin to progress as fast as i can. So if theres any advice you'd like to give feel free, i do have some questions though if any1 would like to answer.

1) For farming leg's is it still best to farm on the highest MP that you can 1 shot most/all trash mobs on?

2) When you find a crypt in FoM is it best to dash through the whole thing first to the end then clear it backwards? Or is this just a waste of time?

Anyway, thats it for now will update with mp6 uber clears tomorrow hopefully!

Oh and para 37 now almost 38!
Edited by BoozBear#1811 on 12/26/2013 8:43 AM PST
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Way to go BoozBear!

The thing I hate most about SF is that the higher MPs feel capped until you find a decent LS weapon (or a bunch of LoH gear) and then suddenly you're playing a different game. I'm impressed how far you're going on pure Life Regen sustain, but at some point, that's probably going to have to give.

I know that I can switch my gear around with rings and amulets to gain about +12K DPS if I'm willing to give up 1000 LoH. I don't do it on higher MPs, and I'm running with some LS as well. Sustain really is king for surviving higher MPs.

One thing I'd look into is trying to get some LpSS. Either using Transcendence, or keeping your eye out for Spirit Stones. Your current helm isn't really that strong, so any helm with high LpSS and a socket (or even just Vit and Life% instead of a socket) is probably an upgrade for you.

Do get those Hellfire rings. Roll a Dex one and a Vit one and always keep one on your follower for another +7% XP.

If you're going for efficiency, always play on an MP that you can use a Hellfire ring and a ruby in your helm. You don't have any sustain, so I'd say run on a fairly low MP, and just make sure that you don't ever die, which is about the least efficient thing you can do. If you are going to buckle down and go for efficient runs, I'd really take the time to clock a few runs and record how much XP/hour you're getting at various MPs. It doesn't take that much time and you should quickly get an idea what's best for you. Unfortunately, most people (even the efficiency experts) just aren't going to know what's best for you and your gear. You have to write your own playbook in SF :)

Good luck to you Booz. If there's anything I can do or any gear than I can make suddenly "drop" for you in your games so you can "find" it, let me know :)
Edited by Demiwraith#1534 on 12/26/2013 1:30 PM PST
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Way to go BoozBear!

Good luck to you Booz. If there's anything I can do or any gear than I can make suddenly "drop" for you in your games so you can "find" it, let me know :)


Hahahaha thanks so much demi really appreciate it!

I have actually only played this monk by myself so far so that im 100% sure none of my finds are "drops" xD

As for life steal i have 2 weapons, the flying dragon is my "i need to pump out dps now" weapon and my vigilance is my sustain, its about 4k or so less dps but it has a 300 dex roll and its got 6% life steal.

As for my helm, i know its killing me ive being wanting a new one so bad for a long time with no luck yet. Preferably i want a dex/vit/armor or resist and a sock with +spirit regen.

More then anything though i just find its dps holding me back. Like im sure right now i can probly crawl through mp6 but with my vigilance it would be slow and tedious. I really need that lucky drop on the 2h main weapon with crit/socket/LS!
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I'm still gearing up my self-found monk, AuctionHouse. I hope I can find Nat ring, and witching hours.
Edited by ManUnited#3106 on 12/26/2013 6:29 PM PST
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Hi,

Interesting thread, i'll keep my eyes on you:)
Actually I got inspiration from overg too, and after
I realised that 0-60 levelling, buy stuff from AH, farm paragon, lag/dc death on HC is xxx boring, doing the same self found on SC. ( on the EU region)

I started from zero too, played SC in 2012 last time, got nothing at start.
Plan is to reach p100 before ROS... :)
I still missing the dex plans, but crafted some vit stuff.
Currently farming on MP5, but I have hard times at beating Kulle/SB on mp4.
Doing Ubers on mp3 is wasting of the keys. :(

My char:
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/saam-2403/hero/32614464

(Sorry for my bad english)
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Good luck to you both, Boozbear and saam, keep it up. You're ability to beat MP10 before RoS of course depends upon the amount of time you've got and your RNG, but I think it's possible you can get there. All it takes is one lucky weapon drop to massively change the content you're capable of tackling.

If nothing else, I think playing this way until RoS hits will really ease the culture shock a lot of other players might have. A lot of people are going to be disappointed at how relatively slow their upgrades will come (at least compared to the AH), while it will actually feel faster to you compared to Vanilla SF.

As for ubers, in my experience they're your normal farming level - 2. So if you're farming MP5, MP3 ubers should feel just about right. It's not an ironclad rule, but it's a pretty safe guideline, especially with respect to the Kulle/SB combo.
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12/27/2013 08:23 AMPosted by saam
Hi,

Interesting thread, i'll keep my eyes on you:)


Hey Saam, welcome nice monk you have there!

Good luck to you both, Boozbear and saam, keep it up. All it takes is one lucky weapon drop to massively change the content you're capable of tackling.


Welcome back Overg! Ye, im praying for that LS/dex skorn or a perfectly rolled doom hammer!

12/27/2013 09:11 AMPosted by overg

If nothing else, I think playing this way until RoS hits will really ease the culture shock a lot of other players might have.


To be honest, one of the things that amazes me most is that at this stage of the game after all the updates its gone through i think that playing the game self found is AMAZINGLY well balanced. With the crafting updates playing this way became so fun and interesting, the only thing it needs is for the loot to be tailor dropped a little bit more towards your char and id b happy.

12/27/2013 09:11 AMPosted by overg

As for ubers, in my experience they're your normal farming level - 2. So if you're farming MP5, MP3 ubers should feel just about right. It's not an ironclad rule, but it's a pretty safe guideline, especially with respect to the Kulle/SB combo.


Speaking of ubers.....

Update 28/12
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Mp6 ubers down!!!
http://i.imgur.com/GAsZLLY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lmzGtVz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9IHjvUr.jpg (Zoltun/SB!!!)

Still only looted a eye/spine though so need to get more machines!
Edited by BoozBear#1811 on 12/27/2013 3:01 PM PST
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12/27/2013 02:58 PMPosted by BoozBear
To be honest, one of the things that amazes me most is that at this stage of the game after all the updates its gone through i think that playing the game self found is AMAZINGLY well balanced. With the crafting updates playing this way became so fun and interesting, the only thing it needs is for the loot to be tailor dropped a little bit more towards your char and id b happy.


Yeah. I didn't use the AH when the game first came out for some time. But Act 1 Inferno was a wall. You NEEDED level 63 gear to get through Act 2 and that really only dropped in Act 3. I started using the AH and never looked back.

But since they made all the updates, it seems like you roughly tend to get to MP-10 around the time that your hitting paragon 100. If I had all these updates, I probably would have stuck with a lot more self-found for my SC Monk. I still think HC self-found is a bit too slow going, however. And the community in HC is one of re-gearing friends and strangers who die, so I'll be missing that a bit if things really go BoA on everything that matters.

Anyway, congrats on the MP-6 ubers! I've found that I can handle them on roughly the MP level that I can full clear without dying. Hope you find that magical LS weapon drop soon! :)
Edited by Demiwraith#1534 on 12/27/2013 4:11 PM PST
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Thanks the kind words.

Booz. You really rock.
I do something really bad. How can you manage Kulle/SB on mp6?
On mp4, i was able to down them with an ally after about 3rd try.
Without an ally, i have no chance. Maybe i fear to much of the enrage timer and hurry, but it's insane what you manage...
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dumb question

what does UBERS mean?
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12/27/2013 04:58 PMPosted by Jarlaxle
dumb question

what does UBERS mean?


"Uber" sort of means "Super". In Diablo 3 it referes Infernal machine battles where you fight super versions of the min-bosses (Uber Magda and Uber Skeleton King, etc.) It's something to do when you hit Inferno, and it lets you craft hellfire rings. Read more about it here:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/7597724
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ah ok

ive been out of it for a while
my lvl 60 monk and 4 other characters got deleted by one of my children playing around one day

when i realised i couldnt get my monk back i stopped playing trying to get back into it now
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12/27/2013 02:58 PMPosted by BoozBear


Speaking of ubers.....

Update 28/12
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Mp6 ubers down!!!
http://i.imgur.com/GAsZLLY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/lmzGtVz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9IHjvUr.jpg (Zoltun/SB!!!)

Still only looted a eye/spine though so need to get more machines!


Nice! If you can kill them on MP6, you should be able to down Belial (and thus everything else) on MP8. Go for it!
Edited by overg#1771 on 12/27/2013 5:59 PM PST
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12/27/2013 04:11 PMPosted by Demiwraith
Yeah. I didn't use the AH when the game first came out for some time. But Act 1 Inferno was a wall. You NEEDED level 63 gear to get through Act 2 and that really only dropped in Act 3. I started using the AH and never looked back.


Ye i kno exactly what u mean i cleared inferno pre-nerf on a barb, act 2 entry was awful lol.

12/27/2013 04:11 PMPosted by Demiwraith

But since they made all the updates, it seems like you roughly tend to get to MP-10 around the time that your hitting paragon 100. If I had all these updates,

Im hoping that this is the case, cause if it is i may be able to clear mp10 then pre-ros. I think i can hit p100 before then basically.

12/27/2013 04:11 PMPosted by Demiwraith

Anyway, congrats on the MP-6 ubers! I've found that I can handle them on roughly the MP level that I can full clear without dying. Hope you find that magical LS weapon drop soon! :)


Cheers bro!

Thanks the kind words.
Booz. You really rock.
I do something really bad. How can you manage Kulle/SB on mp6?
On mp4, i was able to down them with an ally after about 3rd try.
Without an ally, i have no chance. Maybe i fear to much of the enrage timer and hurry, but it's insane what you manage...


Its hard to tell just looking over your gear casually, but from what i can guess id say your dieing? Cause of to few resist id say, i have 550 res all without OWE and about 5.4k armor or so using STI.

SB started to enrage on me as i killed him on mp6 though to give you a idea.

12/27/2013 05:53 PMPosted by overg

Nice! If you can kill them on MP6, you should be able to down Belial (and thus everything else) on MP8. Go for it!


Just to confirm you did mean 8 correct? Cause i seem to be having a fairly different experience. Clearing SB/Kulle on Mp6, SB just started to enrage as i killed him, taking down belial/butcher just now on mp6 i am 100% at my limit (at least for my spec) as there enraging as i kill them as well, the whole floor was on fire with butcher and belial was 1-2 seconds into hes enrage when he went down as well..... Sooo update!

Update 29/12
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Mp6 cleared belial and butcher down!

Butcher: http://i.imgur.com/jckmw41.jpg
Belial: http://i.imgur.com/GDkDrZ5.jpg

Leg's;
Chantodos Will

Also going to start keep track of what legendaries i loot between updates for fun!
Edited by BoozBear#1811 on 12/28/2013 6:56 AM PST
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Just to confirm you did mean 8 correct? Cause i seem to be having a fairly different experience. Clearing SB/Kulle on Mp6, SB just started to enrage as i killed him, taking down belial/butcher just now on mp6 i am 100% at my limit (at least for my spec) as there enraging as i kill them as well, the whole floor was on fire with butcher and belial was 1-2 seconds into hes enrage when he went down as well..... Sooo update!


Interesting! I wonder why our experiences were so different. Could be gear or spec, but it's probably mostly tied to playstyle. Either you've figured out the ubers in a way I never did, or I figured out Belial/Butcher in a way you've yet to master. Which seems kind of odd, because I think all three share some same basic principals (maximize your dps uptime by using as little time as possible to avoid their big hits),

In any event, keep pushing! I found that sometimes all it takes to progress further is simply getting used to the higher damage/life mobs have. Once you get into a new rhythm for the harder content things start progressing pretty smoothly, and the improved drop rates give you those vital upgrades you need.

Of course, given that time is a factor, the other option is to drop down some MP levels and farm the crap out of some high density areas. In either event, go, go, go!
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