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Who cares ?? Just saying ..
I'll just copy paste what i wrote in the other thread since people apparently don't know what a search funtion is or just look at the frontpage of thier screen.
While twitch can sometimes be a wink of how a game is doing it can't really be said about all games.
The reason D3 once had high viewers was because it was new and people wanted to see what it looked like. Same with RoS.
That being said D3 is not a competative game (yet) and in all honesty while fun playing is absolutely no fun watching. We are not talking about watching some pro player here or E-sport event we are talking about sitting and watching someone farm.
Diablo 2 did well for it's time but it didn't bring people who are new to gaming into gaming really. Not enough to really matter. Diablo 2's statistics aren't as great as people make it out to be.
D2 sold 4.2 million copies and only 2.5 million people bought Lord of Destruction. 2.2 million people bought Lord of Destruction on the opening two weeks. This means that only 300,000 people bought the game within it's 12 year lifespan. Most of those probably being bots that were banned that had to get a new CD. Only the most hardcore fans continued to buy the game and actually keep playing.
I'm not knocking Diablo but let's be honest. Action RPGs is a niche market. Blizzard action rpgs being the the most popular but in the end they're still niche compared to other games nowadays.
Diablo 3 sold 7.8 million copies with reaper of souls selling 2.7 million copies. People attribute this to meaning that since a small % returned to the game as opposed to d2 that means d3 didn't do as well but there's other factors. Diablo 2 released relatively soon after Diablo 1. The same generation of players that played d1 also bought d2. D3 released amongst a new generation of gamers who probably got d3 just because they liked blizzard and likely never played an ARPG in their life. These people probably moved on pretty quickly. I had many friends get into d3 that never played an ARPG before and absolutely hated the top down view, the grinding, etc.
thanks for the laugh :D
and when ppl finally realize that graphics don´t matter at all ? tztztz
Who the hell is watching somebody else play football? How is that a thing?
I get going into the street with your friends, all playing together/taking turns.
I get watching the best players showing training techiques, or a pro giving strategic advice.
But just watching somebody stream a football match? ...wha?
Well I have played it and I approve of what he said. There, credibility.
Football players make how much money? How many people watch football?
Streamers make how much money? How many people watch streams?
2/10, made me reply.
10/10 encouraging people to go outside and play something, anything.
yea I supposed I shoudl clarify, when I spout on about how "successful" d1 and 2 was I often mean critical success as opposed to mainstream or financial....
I have looked up the actual sales numbers for the titles a few months ago... before and although I might have read different actual numbers because we're dealing in millions of units the conlusion was just as you pointed out....that far less people bought LoD than D2. your description of the numbers is really interesting....
here is an old quote from a thread I replied to many months ago..
this is what I found on websites that seemed to be "press release posts" on D2 and expansion sales....obviously when dealing with millions of units across the globe some flexibility must be displayed when digesting the raw data :P
April 3, 2014
D2 was released jun 29th 2000
D2 then sold about 4,000,000 copies in the months to follow
D2 LOD was released June 27th 2001
around August 29th 2001 it was mentioned that D2 LOD sales were at just over 1,000,000
take that for what you will...
When I read the rest of your post I feel as if your saying that the heavy success of the other franchises blizzard has helped spur on the sales of D3 to those not familiar with the series....is that the jist of it?
Why do you stop counting the Diablo 2 sales after 2002?
What about the 13 000 000 copies Diablo 2 sold AFTER 2002?
According to VIVENDI, Blizzard's owner -- before Activision got their dirty claws on Blizzard -- Diablo 2 sold a total of 17 000 000 copies, PLUS 17 000 000 copies of Lord of Destrution.
After the merging of Blizzard and Activision, Vivendi only has one report left that contains data about Blizzard, from 2004 -- the 2008 report is not there any more.
Keep in mind Diablo 2 was one of the top 10 best selling PC games of 2010.
YES. TWENTY TEN.
Edited by Frostraven#1952 on 7/13/2014 8:28 AM PDT
D2 sold 4.2 million copies and only 2.5 million people bought Lord of Destruction. 2.2 million people bought Lord of Destruction on the opening two weeks. This means that only 300,000 people bought the game within it's 12 year lifespan.
4.2 million copies of D2 + 2.5 million expansions sold = 300,000 sold
Redo your math....
Redo your math and your facts.
Uh. No. You misunderstood my post. 2.2 million people bought it in the opening two weeks. The current sales numbers are 2.5 million. That means in 12 years only 300,000 new people bought it from opening week. After the opening week numbers there was only 300,000 copies sold. Barely anyone was buying copies after the first two weeks.
As for where I got my numbers
Frostraven. Vgsales is wrong. They give wikipedia as their source. Click wikipedia. Wikipedia claims that D2 expansion only sold 1,000,000 copies and d2 vanilla isn't even listed amongst the top games sold. Their own source doesn't have ANY of the information they claim. Also top 10 games of 2010?
Where is D2?
Edited by Reslin#1758 on 7/13/2014 9:16 AM PDT
well from what I read on the Wikipedia it has 11 million people were still playing D2 as of 2010. lets see D3 get even a fraction of that in 10 years
Edited by Bouldergore#1377 on 7/13/2014 10:08 AM PDT
Yet statistics anywhere else and from blizzard disagrees. That 11,000,000 is wrong. There is no sources that state diablo has sold that many. Blizzard's own data says 4.5 million sold. You can't have 7,000,000 more people than even bought the game.
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