Diablo® III

EDIT: blue has stated this was a bug. RMAHers rejoice. Sadface for us gold AHers.
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According to Diabloinc/Diablo3Markets both the RMAH and GAH have equal 15% fees.

http://diablo3markets.incgamers.com/blog/comments/official-site-updated-items-crafting-costs-changed (also has some info on new crafting costs).

As someone who plans on dealing *only* with the GAH if at all possible, I absolutely love the change. (I'm not anti-RMAH, I just would enjoy the game less if I used it)

$1.25 fee made it so that when selling an expensive item, it was always more profitable to sell on the RMAH since the fee would be so much lower than 15% of total sale. Now both the RMAH and the GAH have the same fee, so there's a good chance the GAH will still have a ton of the highest end items.

This change is bad news for anyone who plans on selling lots of high end stuff on the RMAH, as they'll be paying quite a bit more in fees--- but potentially good news for those of us who would rather deal with gold (which will now be even more useful with the newly revealed huge crafting goldsinks).

04/13/2012 12:00 AMPosted by Snow

Wrong, you still won't be buying the best items with gold. Its far easier to make millions of gold than to get a 1 in a million drop

umm, ok.

Fen or whoever has the answer, do you mean 15% on items that sell which would include both fees or 15% just for listing even if the item doesn't sell which would be just the listing fee?

there will be some on the GAH, but most high end stuff will be on the RM

04/13/2012 12:04 AMPosted by Kyrov

Fen or whoever has the answer, do you mean 15% on items that sell which would include both fees or 15% just for listing even if the item doesn't sell which would be just the listing fee?

As far as I know, listing fees have been removed entirely. If the article I linked above is accurate, then both the RMAH and GAH will take a 15% cut of your profit only after you've made a sale. (Previously the RMAH would only take a flat $1.25 cut after sale-- even if you sold something worth $200)

Im more excited about craftable items costing 171k and more gold.

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As far as I know, listing fees have been removed entirely. If the article I linked above is accurate, then both the RMAH and GAH will take a 15% cut of your profit only after you've made a sale. (Previously the RMAH would only take a flat $1.25 cut after sale-- even if you sold something worth $200)

If true then that's a good thing and a bad thing. The good part is that you don't have to be so paranoid about what you sell. That bad side is that it takes away a big way to discourage people from just dumping worthless cheap gear on both the GAH and RMAH which makes me doubt that live isn't going to have some sort of listing fee.

15% doesn't necessarily make it more. It depends on the amount of sale. In fact I'd argue it would be less in most cases.

$1.25 is about 15% of $8.20, give or take a few cents. That means any item sold for less than that, you're saving money because the 15% charge is actually less than $1.25.

I would be willing to bet, with the saturated market that will exist, the the vast majority of items people sell will not exceed $8.20.

Yes, some people will, on a rare occasion, sell a really rare items for more. The vast majority of cases, however, will be large quantities of really good items sold for less.

As far as I know, listing fees have been removed entirely. If the article I linked above is accurate, then both the RMAH and GAH will take a 15% cut of your profit only after you've made a sale. (Previously the RMAH would only take a flat $1.25 cut after sale-- even if you sold something worth $200)

If true then that's a good thing and a bad thing. The good part is that you don't have to be so paranoid about what you sell. That bad side is that it takes away a big way to discourage people from just dumping worthless cheap gear on both the GAH and RMAH which makes me doubt that live isn't going to have some sort of listing fee.

There's a listing limit of 10 per auction house.

04/13/2012 12:10 AMPosted by Kyrov

If true then that's a good thing and a bad thing. The good part is that you don't have to be so paranoid about what you sell. That bad side is that it takes away a big way to discourage people from just dumping worthless cheap gear on both the GAH and RMAH which makes me doubt that live isn't going to have some sort of listing fee.

Well, they combat this a bit by capping your total auction listings at 10. You have a small grace period to cancel an auction, but after that I think it remains posted for 48 hours and you cannot remove it from the AH. So, if you wanna put something way overpriced or otherwise foolish on the AH, you lost one slot for 48 hours.

And besides that, even if people were flooding the AH with white crap items or something, it's something the AH UI filter would easily bypass with no real annoyance to you.

04/13/2012 12:10 AMPosted by Snow

You said the GAH will likely have high end items, I was responding to that. Don't tell me you forgot what you wrote....

Your post isnt altogether clear to me. Say I have a high end item (note, not necessarily a 1 in a million drop, just high end. Could be crafted or otherwise), and I want to sell it on the gold AH. Now I can do that without being annoyed that if I sold it on the RMAH there would be MUCH less of a fee. So now I have the gold in my inventory, and I can buy a similar high end item off the GAH that my character can use, an item someone listed with a mindset similar to my own. This change (if it's true), now puts GAH and RMAH on equal footing.

Your argument, perhaps, is that the highest end (1 in a million and greater) may sell for more gold than you really could ever have, thereby forcing you to use the RMAH. That may or may not be true (even though you're trying to state it as fact), but I'm not talking about the uber rarest.

04/13/2012 12:05 AMPosted by D3BETA

there will be some on the GAH, but most high end stuff will be on the RM

This, an those that appear in the gold AH won't stay for long, they'll be bought and sold back on the RMAH... my guess

I think you're talking about mid tier items and not actual high end, like shako and vamp in D2. They MAY go on the GAH but its highly likely you will find anything else. Not many people are going to be willing to pass up a good chunk of change for gold. Even if the gold economy, which it won't be, it on par with WoW it still won't be worth more than a few dollars for a few thousand.

The only thing 15% fee does it make people want to sell the higher end items through a third party, depending on how much the item is worth. You could lose quite a bit of cash, but it still won't make people want to sell those items for gold.

High end. I'm willing to pass up a good chunk of change for gold, as are many others here (perhaps the majority). Besides, if we wanted to sell stuff and then turn around make our characters better with the money we got (gold or cash), there wont be a difference between auction houses-- we'd still be putting the money right back into our characters. In that case, its easier to deal in gold because you also need it for other things in game like repairs, and the new high crafting fees.

Your post assumes that most people will want the cash straight into their pockets to buy food and crap, not more items for themselves. Some people will be like that, sure, but not all.

The gold drops aren't much off, but the value of selling things is much different.
In D2 I picked up a few 35k armors when I needed gold, in D3 I'd need to actually go pick up piles and fill up on lots more items (probably blue/yellow, things I could be smashing for crafting materials!).