Diablo® III

Where do Angels/Demons come from?

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Okay so I know the answer isn't storks....right?

Inarius and Lilith made humans, I'm assuming by the conventional methods. But what about demons and angels? Can they reproduce or what?

Plus, when humans die they have a spirit. Do they go to a heaven or hell? What about angels and demons when they die?
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As with all things, it is best to begin with the beginning. The Creation.
All things after it are a result of it, and the nature of it reverberates down
through the millennia.

A great many mystic and tribal storytellers impart some version of this story.
I am using ancient writings from the Black Book of Lam Esen. I chose this
source because Lam Esen was a skilled sage renowned for his knowledge of
Skatsimi mysticism and folklore. In his time, he collected vast stores of knowledge
form diverse places, and had a uniques genius for distilling the essence of things
from a vast array of different sources.

He describes the creation of our universe in the following terms:

Before the beginning there was void. Nothing. No flesh. No rock.
No air. No beat. No light. No dark.

Nothing, save a single, perfect pearl.

Within that pearl dreamed a mighty, unfathomable spirtit-the One–
Anu. Made of shining diamond. Anu was the sum of all things: good
and evil, light and dark, physical and mystical, joy and sadness-all
reflected across the crystalline facets of its form. And, within its
eternal dream-state, Anu considered itself-all of its myriad facets.
Seeking a state of total purity and perfection, Anu cast all evil from
itself. All dissonance was gone. But what of the cast-off aspect of
its being? The dark parts, the sharp, searing aspects of hate and
pridefulness? Those could not remain in a state of separation, for all
things are drawn to all things. All parts are drawn to the whole.
Those discordant parts assembled into the Beast-the Dragon. Tathamet
was his name-and he breathed unending death and darkness from his
seven devouring heads. The Dragon was solely composed of Anu's
cast-off aspects. The end sum of the whole became a singular Evil-
the Prime Evil, from which all the vileness would eventually spread
throughout existence.

Though separate beings, Anu and the Dragon were bound together
within the Pearl's shadowed womb. There they warred against each
other in an unending clash of light and shadow for ages uncounted.

The diamond warrior and the seven-headed dragon proved to be
the equal of the other, neither ever gaining the upper hand in their
fierce and unending combat-till at last, their energies nearly
spent after countless millennia of battle, the two combatants
delivered their final blows. The energies unleashed by their
impossible fury ignited an explosion of light and matter so vast
and terrible that it birthed the very universe all around us.

All of the stars above and the darkness that binds them.
All that we touch. All that we feel. All that we know.
All that is unknown.
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All of it continues through the night and the day in the ebbing and
flowing of the ocean tides and in the destruction of fire and the
creation of the seed.

Everything of which we are aware, and that of which we are utterly
unaware, was created with the deaths of Anu and the Dragon,
Tathamet.

In the epicenter of reality lies Pandemonium, the scar of the
universe's violent birth. At its chaotic center lay the Heart of
Creation, a massive jewel unlike any other: the Eye of Anu-
the Worldstone. It is the foundation stone of all places and times,
a nexus of realities and vast, untold possibility.

Anu and Tathamet are no more, yet their distinct essences
permeated the nascent universe-and eventually became the bedrock
of what we know to be the High Heavens and the Burning Hells.

Anu's shining spine spun out into the primordial darkness, where
it slowed and cooled. Over countless ages it formed into the Crystal
Arch, around which the High Heavens took shape and form.

Though Anu was gone, some resonance of it remained in the holy Arch. Spirits bled
forth from it-shining angels of light and sound who embodied the virtuous aspects of
what the One had been.

Yet, despite the grace and beauty of this shining realm, it lacked the perfection of
Anu's spirit. Anu had passed into a benevolent place beyond this broken universe-
a paradise of which nothing is known and yet represents perhaps the greatest-kept
secret of Creation.

Longed for, but unimaginable.

Just as Heaven cooled in the spaces above, Tathamet's blackened, smoldering husk
spiraled into the lower darkness of reality. From his putrid flesh grew the realms
of the Burning Hells. The Dragon's seven severed heads arose as the seven Evils-
the three strongest of which would be known as the Prime Evils. They, along with
their four Lesser brethren, would rule over the ravening, demonic hordes that spawned
like maggots from the desiccated cavities of the Burning Hells.

Thus was how all of what we know began...
In time, the Lords of Hell and the angels of Heaven met
and clashed. The battle raged unceasing, and thus
would come to be known as the Eternal Conflict.
It is written in the Book of Long Shadows that
the Eternal Conflict shall continue on forever
across countless places of existence, until
further mysteries, unknown even to
the angels and demons, shall
reveal themselves.

Over the millennia, many scholars
have interpreted this in various
ways. Some, especially in the primitive
tribes who look to the sky for their
understanding of the universe, view all
this as literally true. They believe that
Anu's spine is a physical object in the
Universe. That demons are born from the
rotting flesh of Tathamet.

Other scholars and mystics take this less literally and
perceive the telling of Anu and Tathamet's battle as an
elaborate metaphor for good and evil and the constant,
warring dynamic seen among the force of nature.
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05/09/2012 12:12 AMPosted by Sidewinder
What about angels and demons when they die?
They go to the Abyss where they will be re born from either Anu or Tathamet's remains respectively
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05/09/2012 01:28 AMPosted by Doggir
What about angels and demons when they die?
They go to the Abyss where they will be re born from either Anu or Tathamet's remains respectively


Does that apply to only the major characters like Diablo or Tyrael or also to the lesser dudes like fallen, Izual, and Cow King?

This also might be a dumb question. But if angels and demons can reproduce and make humans, why dont they just get it on with their own kind and multiply their numbers and finally get the eternal war over with?
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05/09/2012 03:03 AMPosted by Sidewinder
They go to the Abyss where they will be re born from either Anu or Tathamet's remains respectively


Does that apply to only the major characters like Diablo or Tyrael or also to the lesser dudes like fallen, Izual, and Cow King?

This also might be a dumb question. But if angels and demons can reproduce and make humans, why dont they just get it on with their own kind and multiply their numbers and finally get the eternal war over with?
The rules have not been laid out totally, but my guess is that neither sides' numbers dwindle, but only the higher ups keep their memories so to speak. So, using your example, if a Fallen is slain, my guess is that a new one pops up in Hell but it's not the same Fallen as the killed one. But if you slay Diablo then he comes back still as the same Diablo. Same with angels, but that does not include anything non-demonic or non-angelic ie.l The Cow King
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I Disagree. I think there are a limiteb, although constant, number of souls.
WHen a fallen dies in Sanctuarry, his soul goes back to the black abyss, where he will be eventually rezzed. This is a very specifical point in the lore which i can't remeber seeing any explanations on how it works.
I think i should reread some stuff and see if i can get a better explanation for what happens in this case;.
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05/09/2012 03:03 AMPosted by Sidewinder
They go to the Abyss where they will be re born from either Anu or Tathamet's remains respectively


Does that apply to only the major characters like Diablo or Tyrael or also to the lesser dudes like fallen, Izual, and Cow King?

This also might be a dumb question. But if angels and demons can reproduce and make humans, why dont they just get it on with their own kind and multiply their numbers and finally get the eternal war over with?


They do.

But demon moms eat their babies and Angels never get turned on.
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