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Now I'm not saying it's the best, nor am I saying it trumps ranged; It is a perfectly viable build as I am abusing it right now in Hell, and I've got random people saying its interesting, to say the least.
Impale (Awareness) - This build runs on no offensive hatred generator, when I run out of hatred, I simply normal attack until Impale is available again. Awareness splashes the mob around me.
Fan Of Knives (Hail of Knives) - Works with numbling traps
SS/Preparation - Yes, I am using this combo, and I feel like a melee build benefits most from this combo: The premise is to go straight into the middle of a mob start impaling everybody and attack while I am in my SS cycle
Vault - When I run out of my unlimited SS cycle, this is for that emergency to get away until Prepartion is off cooldown
Companion (Bat) - Because I'm not using any offensive hatred generator, this is my only hatred generation, and it works much better then in writing. When running out of Awareness Impales, I usually attack for a good 3 times before I can impale again, and it does a ton of damage.
Perfectionist/Sharpshooter - Perfectionist is self explanatory for SS/Prep, Sharpshooter is not as useless as most thinks, and especially used with Impale, I usually kill enemies including mobs very quickly, fueling SS/Prep as well.
Most of my gear stats are for DEX, VIT, Crit in that order
The thing about the SS/Prep combo is that, The mob is usually surrounding me regardless, when using the combo in range, this usually happens. Which is why I feel melee is really effective with the SS cycle. Even in group play, I become a sort of psuedo tank becuase when my SS disappears, they all surround me and I SS again, while my friends are afar disintegrating them with beams.
Thanks for reading~
Edited by Katwna#1730 on 6/10/2012 7:16 PM PDT
Why not? I worked hard to figure out a viable melee build, and even though a lot of people say there isnt much Viability despite what Blizzard says, I'm saying THERE IS a possibility for creativity to say the least.
Plus I'm enjoying the game trying out new things, and right now, I'm doing pretty damn well in Hell with this build, and I just wanted to share, so I don't think there's a crime for that.
hey... before the game came out everyone was 100% positive that it wouldn't work past normal, and he's in hell. If people can beat inferno solo with ranged demon hunters 5 days after it comes out, they can do it with melee demons hunter within a few months.
Edited by Snowbird#1742 on 5/21/2012 10:17 PM PDT
WTF do you do for hatred gen after you burn it in 3 seconds from impale spam? Stand there and look pretty?
You normal attack, obviously. Yes, it sounds weak, but with sharpshooter and high DPS/Dex, you shouldnt doubt normal attack. Its 100 % normal weapon damage, something people overlook.
Bat generates hatred fast enough for you to use impale every few normal attacks; how do I know? I USE this build. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with not being able to generate hatred, especially when normal attack itself is decent. The few second wait for a next 250% impale plus splash damage is WORTH it.
Dude.. all you have to do is replace vault with tinkering grenades and you can crazy fast hatred regen. Or switch your bat for tinker grenades. Then you can switch sharpshooter for grenadier and have RIDICULOUS hatred regen.
Sounds like a great idea :D Another build can benefit from grenades and regen here, see?
Try it out!! Alot of people like to critic without constructively without even trying it, and Honestly, Idc. Thanks ~
I'm in Hell.... Am i not allowed to call any build I play well with "viable"??
This looks pretty fun. Currently I'm in NM Act2 just pewpewing away with Elemental Arrow (Ball Lightning), tossing Impales whenever something with more than 5k hp appears. I might give it whirl, but I'd definitely use grenades as a hate gen. They always seemed crappy as a ranged skill (slow travel time, then delay on exploding). Probably get rid of the bat.
Elective mode. How do you think he has three Hunting skills, and Defensive in a different slot? Also, nowhere does the OP state that Impale is a Primary skill either... -1, try again.
you are not doing any melee seriously ....
The following build work best with monk mantra of evasion.
Also, take a shield with high block chance... (20% is minimum),
and make sure you gain life per hit (starting from +200/strike & 1.8 Atk/s ).
Get yourself heal with preparation, and off tank to your teammates with smokescreen when your health is low.
lol, good luck now that SS has been nerfed.
Its call using "gloom"..ya know the thing that gives us 65% DR?
Its extremely viable and I'm sitting at 55 Demon hunter myself who walks into melee combat. The only difference is I use twin chakram, because at point blank on a mob (at the right angle) thats x2 hits at 101% damage.
My build is more based on the style of a "hammerdin" (before enigma made it OP), and I'm current spamming stun grenades. The biggest thing you have to make sure with this build is having a large amount of hp and resistances. Which the same could be said for any melee in hell - inferno mode.
I agree that retaliate with FoK is godly, though fan of daggers is useful too for the stun. The best part, like another person stated somewhere around here on the forums is FoK + gloom = full hp. The biggest problem I have honestly is I have to much hate, and nothing to really use it up on.
I did try using impale in left mouse, chakram on right mouse..but that depleted my hate lol way to fast.
Another must have for any variation on a demon hunter being near or in melee combat is preparation with battle scars.
In terms of inferno, I'm still hearing the same whining in regards to its difficulty with every single class. Besides the fact its made this way..perhaps you won't get one shoted if you know the proper HP required to not be one shoted. Seems like most people I've talked to who've completed inferno have anywhere between 50-100k hp.
What I'd like to know, is at what dex level are you able to see "dodge" in inferno. I've had about 1.2k dex before, and did quite a bit of dodges in hell mode.
Though probably the biggest thing I'd like to know is what is the max shield block rate? I've been hearing pretty much nothing on this, and from what it looks like its only 35%??
Also knowing the max DR rate would be nice as well...I believe in d2 it was 65%...prior to it getting nerfed to oblivion.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned is the advantage of having a shield. Yup...there's actually an advantage to having a shield. Besides the fact you absorb damage with it, i've found shields that have demon hunter only affixes on them. So the biggest loss using a shield in place of a quiver is the 10% ias.......which is typically used for slow xbows lol. I never recall having an attack speed issue with a bow, hand cross bow.
I would also recommend anyone who tries any variation of what's stated above to use weapons with a good base attack speed. Swords/daggers/axes.
Edited by Silvist#1399 on 5/24/2012 1:08 AM PDT
I am using a few different skill selects, like no ss, but Melee DH is so fun :) I used to play melee zon in hardcore, which rocked after you got sigon set and a series of items ready to fly. Totally lame to only use a one handed sword at first...then I was iffy on if I liked a shield..but now I'm starting to think that looks cool with it. wish I could dye it though.
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