Diablo® III

Retina MacBook

I'm not expecting stellar performance with the 650m at the Retina Display's native resolution. If everything is suppose to be high end, then why didn't they opt for the 660m (still on Keplar @ 28nm)?
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I haven't seen a 660m. Highest mobile Keplar I've seen is the 650m.
Edited by Icy1007#1247 on 6/11/2012 8:50 PM PDT
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06/11/2012 06:31 PMPosted by S4d1k
We support very high resolutions, even higher than 2880x1800, high resolutions are not new. This is why Diablo 3 works in fullscreen mode like most other games.

No one (well, at least me) doubts that it will run at 2800x1800. As you said, high resolutions are not new. The question is will it run at 60fps?

The 650 will apparently run Diablo 3 in ultra says http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-650M.71887.0.html so maybe there is some hope. Really if they wanted to up there they should've found a way to get a gtx675 or something.

Those tests on Ultra were made at 1920x1080 resolution using Direct X (Windows) and gave only 47 FPS. The only OpenGL test was made using Cinebench on a Windows machine at unknown resolution and unknown version of OpenGL (probably the newest).

So, when you take a much higher resolution, as well as outdated Apple's OpenGL backend/drivers into consideration, you will get 20 fps max with low-mid settings (and I'm being generous here).

I hope I'm wrong though. :)
Edited by Markus#2413 on 6/12/2012 12:12 AM PDT
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Just hoping it doesn't run as hot as my current MBP, all the power is nice but when it sounds like jet engine trying to take off it kills a lot of the appeal. Nice to see they're using nvidia cards again, it will be nice to have access to FXAA and ambient occlusion.
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You're not far off, Markus, as Anandtech illustrate in their quick preview of D3 running on the retina MBP: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5760137452
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06/11/2012 08:49 PMPosted by Icy1007
I haven't seen a 660m. Highest mobile Keplar I've seen is the 650m.


www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-660M.71859.0.html
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Blues:

any hands-on today?

Anandtech is claming 20 fps in 2880x 1800. Which is pretty good. We might get a solid 45 in 1920x1080 maybe?

Link http://www.anandtech.com/show/5998/macbook-pro-retina-display-analysis
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Blues:

any hands-on today?

Anandtech is claming 20 fps in 2880x 1800. Which is pretty good. We might get a solid 45 in 1920x1080 maybe?

Link http://www.anandtech.com/show/5998/macbook-pro-retina-display-analysis


Heh, what's the point of playing on 1080p then :D
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Heh, what's the point of playing on 1080p then :D


I don't know, maybe because of 20 being ridiculously small and uncomfortable amount of fps?
I've ordered one new mbp already however. Gonna play at 1440x900 for now (which is still pretty good res for 15inch), and see if Apple (OpenGL, driver optimizations) and Blizz (HiDPI support etc.) will implement some performance upgrades in future.
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I posted in the other thread how i was on the fence regarding buying the base retina mbp. I need it for design work but plan on gaming on it as well (D3, TL2, Borderlands 2, Dota2 mostly). I figured gaming at native res wouldn't but a pleasant experience this generation but I very curious at to what the settings and framerate would be like for a slightly lower resolution (like 1920x1200, which i'd be perfectly happy with on a 15in laptop)

Heres a screen grab of anandtech retina mbp D3:

http://images.anandtech.com/doci/5998/Screen%20Shot%202012-06-11%20at%208.36.33%20PM.png
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Hey just curious to if anyone from blizz has sent the intern to go get one yet, I was spam clicking the apple store button yesterday and got hungry when I came back and the store was up but shipping is 2-3 weeks.....
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I don' t think that playing in 1920x 1080 is a good idea. You should either play 1440x900 or 2880x1800. 1920x is no native so you should use the half-native so you don't get fuzzy pixels

1440x900 with anti-alysing > 1920x1080 imo
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http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1380372

Yea was reading this earlier and tbh while 2880x1800 sounds epic and I'm sure looks epic, is there any real benefit from playin in such hi res 1440x900 with max settings would be my choice
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What kind of fps are we talking about on maxed settings at 1440x900? Any ideas?
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Can't be sure till someone posts test but the Anandtech artical says they avg 20frames in 2880x1800 and similar and even smoother fps at a lower 16:9 res. No idea what the graphic settings were set at though
Edited by nobody#1143 on 6/12/2012 11:47 AM PDT
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06/12/2012 11:05 AMPosted by the5rites
What kind of fps are we talking about on maxed settings at 1440x900? Any ideas?

http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GT-650M.71887.0.html
there are D3 benchmarks of 650m. at all maxed out at 1600x900 (alienware 14inch) it shows almost 50fps. would be great at mac os 1440x900 at med-high settings for sure
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Hey all,

We've created a sticky with additional information about the new retina MBPs. You can view this here: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5791119065
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Hey S4d1k, can I ask you a question? I am sorry do to that, I know (and understand) that a lot of people would like to ask blues directly and you guys just can't reply to us all. :D

For starters, if you're one the Blizzard Mac developers, shouldn't you be on WWDC? :D Now, seriously, do you know if there is anything on Mountain Lion that would improve games performance on a Mac? The reason I ask is because maybe the great "retina" performance will truly come out when the MBP Retinas are updated to 10.8. I know Apple updated Lion's interface to support retina's resolution. But maybe Lion can't supply that performance. And maybe Mountain Lion would. Thanks!
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Blues:

any hands-on today?

Anandtech is claming 20 fps in 2880x 1800. Which is pretty good. We might get a solid 45 in 1920x1080 maybe?

Link http://www.anandtech.com/show/5998/macbook-pro-retina-display-analysis


The only problem I have with this article is there is a chance that he was using the Intel HD 4000 graphics card and not the NVIDIA one, because as we know with some 15in unless you specifically tell your mac to switch over to the higher graphics card, then it might not. If this is true, then there is a chance that the computer performs much better than at 20fps, however, we won't actually know until one of us tries it for ourselves.
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If the HD4000 was used to run the game at 2880x1800, he would've seen 1 frame every 20 secs, not 20fps! ;) There is NO chance it was the HD4000, I doubt it would even run at that high a res.
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