Diablo® III

TORCHLIGHT 2 AWWW YEAH

You dont "buy" mods... lol. You DL and install them at your own desire.


On this note, if your character used mods or was edited in any way you won't be able to join a legit players game. Only other people with those mods will be able to play with you.
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Whimsyshire 2*
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A green played the Alpha and rated it against D3 (lets face it, D3 is kinda like an Alpha as well). It has its good points but don't expect it to smash D3 in the face. In saying that, the team do change a lot of things from what players say so who knows?

Ill treat the game as something new. Keeping my expectations wide, oh so wide.
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08/30/2012 10:01 AMPosted by DeadRu
That is even worse. I don't care what other people do. I don't want to play in the children's sandbox though.


Some mods can be pretty impressive though. Off the top of my head Day Z, Counterstrike, and Defense of the Ancients have all been very successful mods, though I doubt Torchlight 2 will produce anything of that quality.
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08/30/2012 09:26 AMPosted by babinro
With some luck you may get about 40 hours of gameplay like we did with Torchlight.


Actually TL2 is about 4 times the size of TL1, and you can also level to 99.
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08/30/2012 09:30 AMPosted by GlockworK
You dont "buy" mods... lol. You DL and install them at your own desire.


On this note, if your character used mods or was edited in any way you won't be able to join a legit players game. Only other people with those mods will be able to play with you.


This is correct. If you start a MP game, then the only people that can join your game, must have the EXACT same mods you are running. So if none, then they must have none, all their mods disabled, to join. Also you will be able to "sniff" any character joining your game. If don't like that character, you can kick them. Simple!
Edited by Sheldor#1119 on 8/31/2012 7:53 AM PDT
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September 20th, 2012 =)

Looking forward to this game - the old Diablo team will do it right.
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September 20th, 2012 =)

Looking forward to this game - the old Diablo team will do it right.


Yep, plus looking forward to watching Pax today.

edit: http://www.torchlight2game.com/

I also love D3 so yea, Im set. :)
Edited by Suedomsa#1857 on 8/31/2012 8:13 AM PDT
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On this note, if your character used mods or was edited in any way you won't be able to join a legit players game. Only other people with those mods will be able to play with you.


This is correct. If you start a MP game, then the only people that can join your game, must have the EXACT same mods you are running. So if none, then they must have none, all their mods disabled, to join. Also you will be able to "sniff" any character joining your game. If don't like that character, you can kick them. Simple!

There's nothing stopping you from modding items and trading it to another character. Or trading infinite gold to another player

There will also be no economy and no endgame and no fair PvP.
Edited by Eigenscape#6207 on 9/1/2012 1:29 AM PDT
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09/01/2012 01:23 AMPosted by Symplectic
There will also be no economy and no endgame and no fair PvP.


So unlike D3 where there's no PvP at all, no endgame and a broken economy?
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There will also be no economy and no endgame and no fair PvP.


So unlike D3 where there's no PvP at all, no endgame and a broken economy?

There's dueling. But there's no fair PvP because characters can be modded or be given modded items or be given normal items created by a mod.

There's no economy because of modding.

And there's no endgame because there's no economy and no PvP. There's just like an inferno mode, but once you finished that so what?

Modding != longevity. Modding isn't good. Modding = no endgame.

To have an economy, an endgame and fair PvP, you must have a closed server game that doesn't allow modding. TL2 is an open server game that allows modding.
Edited by Eigenscape#6207 on 9/1/2012 3:53 AM PDT
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Modding doesn't give longevity? Are you on drugs?

People are still playing and modding Morrowind, which came out in 2002. Oblivion has Nehrim. There are mods for Diablo 2 which people are still playing. The Underlord mod for Titan Quest still has people playing it. Garry's Mod. DotA was a mod for WCIII which spawned a new genre.

Even without that, TL2 has actual random maps throughout the entire game, which adds constant replayability over the 99% static maps that D3 has.
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Modding doesn't give longevity? Are you on drugs?

People are still playing and modding Morrowind, which came out in 2002. Oblivion has Nehrim. There are mods for Diablo 2 which people are still playing. The Underlord mod for Titan Quest still has people playing it. Garry's Mod. DotA was a mod for WCIII which spawned a new genre.

Even without that, TL2 has actual random maps throughout the entire game, which adds constant replayability over the 99% static maps that D3 has.

You can't compare this to mods like DotA, which are fair because everyone starts fresh each game. Any mod for TL2 will ultimately be as pointless as the game, in the sense that once you've beaten it, there's no point in playing again. There's no point to trying to get better gear, no point in competing, and ultimately no point in playing.

For longevity, you need an economy, a reason for people to keep playing, and a fair playing field that allows people to compete. Torchlight 2 provides none of this.

People complain in Diablo 3 that the legendary items are boring, too rare, and crap. In TL2, they are not boring, not that rare, and not crap. But so what? What's the point of trying to get a better item considering that the game is easy enough to beat and that all items are worthless because they can be modded in.

This is a game that you play once or twice for "fun", then you throw it away, because, in the end it's pointless once you've finished it. Just like Diablo 3, which is pointless because of the RMAH.
Edited by Eigenscape#6207 on 9/1/2012 4:22 AM PDT
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09/01/2012 04:16 AMPosted by Symplectic
Any mod for TL2 will ultimately be as pointless as the game, in the sense that once you've beaten it, there's no point in playing again. There's no point to trying to get better gear, no point in competing, and ultimately no point in playing.


This describes 99% of the games that have ever existed.

The point is that a game is played for fun. I couldn't give two farts about an economy.

I still play Minecraft and Terraria after multiple hundreds of hours, and neither of them have an economy. Likewise Tetris, Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Rock Band, Rez and innumerable other games.
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Any mod for TL2 will ultimately be as pointless as the game, in the sense that once you've beaten it, there's no point in playing again. There's no point to trying to get better gear, no point in competing, and ultimately no point in playing.


This describes 99% of the games that have ever existed.

The point is that a game is played for fun. I couldn't give two farts about an economy.

I still play Minecraft and Terraria after multiple hundreds of hours, and neither of them have an economy. Likewise Tetris, Demon's Souls, Dark Souls, Rock Band, Rez and innumerable other games.

Minecraft is a building game so it remains new for the player in some sense. Tetris is an unbeatable competition. That's how these games retain longevity.

Games like WC3 maintain longevity through having a competitive ladder, games like WoW maintain longevity by having constant new content. D2 maintains longevity by having closed servers with a functioning economy and PvP competition.

D3 will maintain longevity through... it won't it's pointless, you can just buy the best items for real money, and for what? To farm the same old crap again? Why? TL2 will maintain longevity through... nothing. You beat the game, maybe you feel like beating it again once more for fun, then you get bored of the same old !@#$ and stop playing. Ultimately pointless.
Edited by Eigenscape#6207 on 9/1/2012 4:38 AM PDT
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09/01/2012 04:37 AMPosted by Symplectic
D3 will maintain longevity through... it won't it's pointless, you can just buy the best items for real money, and for what? To farm the same old crap again? Why? TL2 will maintain longevity through... nothing. You beat the game, maybe you feel like beating it again once more for fun, then you get bored of the same old !@#$ and stop playing. Ultimately pointless.


I know, whats the point of playing an action rpg or any game at all?

On a positive note you dont have to play with people who mod if you dont want to, you can remove them from your game and you will be able to tell who mods and who doesnt. There are guilds who plan to play the game with no mods and on certain difficulty levels.
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I Had about 80+ hours played on TL for the xbox 360, TL2 seems alot better. I'm looking forward to it aswell.
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D3 will maintain longevity through... it won't it's pointless, you can just buy the best items for real money, and for what? To farm the same old crap again? Why? TL2 will maintain longevity through... nothing. You beat the game, maybe you feel like beating it again once more for fun, then you get bored of the same old !@#$ and stop playing. Ultimately pointless.


I know, whats the point of playing an action rpg or any game at all?

On a positive note you dont have to play with people who mod if you dont want to, you can remove them from your game and you will be able to tell who mods and who doesnt. There are guilds who plan to play the game with no mods and on certain difficulty levels.
Minecraft is a building game so it remains new for the player in some sense. Tetris is an unbeatable competition. That's how these games retain longevity.

Games like WC3 maintain longevity through having a competitive ladder, games like WoW maintain longevity by having constant new content. D2 maintains longevity by having closed servers with a functioning economy and PvP competition.

What the hell is kicking people who you accuse of modding going to do? Is it gonna make the economy closed? Is it gonna magically add an endgame? Is it gonna make PvP competitive? There's still nothing stopping actual in-game items that have been obtained by mods to be traded to a non-modded character. And nothing to flag whether a item that you've been given was modded or dropped. Runic plans to add some way to sniff whether characters (not items) has been modded, and they do not claim that it's accurate. But accuracy aside, what's it even suppose to fix? Nothing.
Edited by Eigenscape#6207 on 9/1/2012 9:10 AM PDT
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