Diablo® III

Banning Linux Users For Using Linux...Really?

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07/02/2012 02:00 PMPosted by Jarrex
you have a list there of acceptable OS for this game, anything else would be consider as cheating and they just don't aaaaa..


OS is listed for compatibility reasons on a game, not for "cheating" reasons. The same reason why games that say "Runs on Windows 7" can, in fact, run on XP and on Windows Vista.


but it's still OS from company they feel like is more appropriate for THEIR game, you take it or leave it.

and it's like beating dead horse with stick... and they already made it clear that, " we don't give aaaaa "
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07/02/2012 02:04 PMPosted by !@#$ity
Unsupported just means if you call and complain about bugs in-game they won't be able to help you.... banning people would be under unACCEPTABLE OS, which is not the case. There needs to be something said regarding this, it's not the first time it's happened in their games.


This.

07/02/2012 02:04 PMPosted by Commiebear
This has been discussed in previous posts. General consensus - run dual boot, play games on the windows partition. Doing that is waaaay less aggravation than trying to wait for Linux support (and i mean fix the warden false positive), or trying to prove you did not commit any foul play.


Except that I don't want to use Windows.
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OS is listed for compatibility reasons on a game, not for "cheating" reasons. The same reason why games that say "Runs on Windows 7" can, in fact, run on XP and on Windows Vista.


but it's still OS from company they feel like is more appropriate for THEIR game, you take it or leave it.

and it's like beating dead horse with stick... and they already made it clear that, " we don't give aaaaa "


07/02/2012 02:04 PMPosted by !@#$ity
Unsupported just means if you call and complain about bugs in-game they won't be able to help you.... banning people would be under unACCEPTABLE OS, which is not the case. There needs to be something said regarding this, it's not the first time it's happened in their games.
Edited by Jarrex#1931 on 7/2/2012 2:09 PM PDT
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This has been discussed in previous posts. General consensus - run dual boot, play games on the windows partition. Doing that is waaaay less aggravation than trying to wait for Linux support (and i mean fix the warden false positive), or trying to prove you did not commit any foul play.


Except that I don't want to use Windows.


I do know where you are coming from, but I am afraid this is the simple choice you have. As i said, there were a few threads on this topic earlier and there was no positive outcome as of yet. I am just suggesting a way around this for you, for now.
07/02/2012 02:03 PMPosted by MaggotBrain
Wine stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator". It's actually just an open source implementation of the Windows API. So there should be theoretically no difference, except that one is free.


(originally WINE = WINdows Emulator, but that aside) Windows API is not open source. Therefore WINE emulates (i.e. cannot duplicate) windows APIs. Therfore WINE can be used to create different behavior than the game relies on. Signifiant protion of most linux distros is open source, so even if WINE was perfect emulation, you can still modify game behavior.

07/02/2012 02:03 PMPosted by Jarrex
Starcraft 2 has worked on Wine since the beta....

sorry, "I can use unsupported third party software that can be used to cheat for another game Blizzard made" is not an argument. Especially when only one of those games contain a real money issue on it.
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07/02/2012 02:14 PMPosted by SpecialisToL
Wine stands for "Wine Is Not an Emulator". It's actually just an open source implementation of the Windows API. So there should be theoretically no difference, except that one is free.


(originally WINE = WINdows Emulator, but that aside) Windows API is not open source. Therefore WINE emulates (i.e. cannot duplicate) windows APIs. Therfore WINE can be used to create different behavior than the game relies on. Signifiant protion of most linux distros is open source, so even if WINE was perfect emulation, you can still modify game behavior.

Starcraft 2 has worked on Wine since the beta....

sorry, "I can use unsupported third party software that can be used to cheat for another game Blizzard made" is not an argument. Especially when only one of those games contain a real money issue on it.


Cheating != Wine?
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but it's still OS from company they feel like is more appropriate for THEIR game, you take it or leave it.

and it's like beating dead horse with stick... and they already made it clear that, " we don't give aaaaa "


07/02/2012 02:04 PMPosted by !@#$ity
Unsupported just means if you call and complain about bugs in-game they won't be able to help you.... banning people would be under unACCEPTABLE OS, which is not the case. There needs to be something said regarding this, it's not the first time it's happened in their games.


same as you could use it as an advantage to find those bugs that can help you with duping, and all other nice things people do.
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That's funny. Last I checked OSX was unix based and Macs are supported. Imagine that.

All you people saying it isn't supported need to quit posting here. It "isn't supported" in that you can't get any technical support should the game not run on your non-supported OS.

There are lots and LOTS of people that use Wine just fine for gaming and it works just fine.
Blizzard did this with WoW also. They banned a bunch of WoW users who were running under Wine, but said "oops" and unbanned them all.
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07/02/2012 02:16 PMPosted by CrypticJ
I don't get it. Why would they care about Linux users?


So witty, so clever.
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Umm.. You are running the game in an emulator. It is possible to use that mechanism to cheat. Linux is not supported by the game, so basically you are someone who uses unsupported third party software which can be used to cheat. There isn't anything mysterious about the ban.


Starcraft 2 has worked on Wine since the beta....

From Blizzaard wedsite, posted awhile back:
http://us.battle.net/support/en/article/system-survey-troubleshooting

Unsupported Hardware or Software

Although our games are often playable on a lot of unsupported hardware and software configurations, these same setups will often block the system survey from completing its job. Some of the unsupported hardware and software that can issues with our system survey include: Unlawfully obtained operating systems (pirated copies) User-modified Mac operating systems running non-standard hardware Unsupported operating systems such as Linux or AmigaDOS
If you are unable to connect to our game during a system survey period due to unsupported hardware or software, you will either need to temporarily play on a supported system or wait until the survey period is over to resume playing. System surveys typically last for about a week, but may run for a shorter or longer time.


That's a system survey about obtaining hardware information?


Yes, and I was suprised it could last a whole week.
Just referencing a old Knowledge Base item stating that Linux is not supported. Thus, Blizzard does not have to make there game work with Linux. Bigger issue is them not allowing me to use my Amiga500 to play D3...
Edited by Tanman#1638 on 7/2/2012 2:20 PM PDT
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07/02/2012 02:16 PMPosted by CrypticJ
I don't get it. Why would they care about Linux users?
They are not all ginger and do have souls.
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eh who cares... i'd rather see them finally come up with a stable d3 version... i'm sick and tired of "hot fix's" and stealth nerf's.
Just don't ever buy Blizzard products again. Ever.
I am wondering if the game is developed by engineers or art history majors.
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07/02/2012 02:14 PMPosted by SpecialisToL
(originally WINE = WINdows Emulator, but that aside) Windows API is not open source. Therefore WINE emulates (i.e. cannot duplicate) windows APIs. Therfore WINE can be used to create different behavior than the game relies on. Signifiant protion of most linux distros is open source, so even if WINE was perfect emulation, you can still modify game behavior.


The goal of the Wine project is to duplicate the functionality of Windows. That's not cheating, is it? Of course people can modify Wine to change game behavior, just like they could modify the machine code in the DLLs to do the same thing.
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That's funny. Last I checked OSX was unix based and Macs are supported. Imagine that.

All you people saying it isn't supported need to quit posting here. It "isn't supported" in that you can't get any technical support should the game not run on your non-supported OS.

There are lots and LOTS of people that use Wine just fine for gaming and it works just fine.


Read the other threads,man. Despite originating in the same family the differences are there. The issue is with an occasional "hiccup" in mem allocation - OSX does not have that issue. Warden pickups on the "hiccup" and in its wisdom thinks it's another program trying to access the same mem space - aka hack.
Edited by Commiebear#1151 on 7/2/2012 2:23 PM PDT
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