And I refer to Diablo coming back from the Abyss after his Soulstone was destroyed.
Even a soulstone being destroyed does not keep a Demon's soul permanently there.
A temporary banishment that can be violated at the earliest convenient opportunity without consequence is called freedom. So, if what you say is true, then destroying the soulstone actually freed them, not banish them.
And you're telling me that Tyreal and Cain, in all their wisdom thought it was a better idea to free them than to leave them imprisoned in their stones?
07/27/2012 06:22 AMPosted by MykeCI'm starting to wonder if you have any intelligence in that brain of yours.
Destroying the soul stones was their only option because Diablo, Mephisto and Baal corrupted their soul stones. Because of this, they were able to spread their influence. This was taught to them by Izual.
Sending them to the Black Abyss, even for awhile, is still banishment. They can't do anything while in the Abyss. That's a lot less than being able to corrupt the soulstone that they were in. Not too mention that it takes a lot for them to be able to claim a physical host.
There are plenty of ways to dispose of a soulstone in a way that is inconvenient/impractical to recover. For example, you can drop it to the bottom of the ocean where it'll take another couple hundred years of technologic advances to be able to recover it. Alternatively, you could bury it in a defunct mine, and then collapse the mine, so it would only be posible to recover with mining machinery and dozens of people working for months. These are possible alternatives to destroying the soulstone to free them.
The point is this: destroying it is not the only option. By destroying it, you lose track of the very thing you wanted to contain.
Apart from that, what would have happened if they had smashed the Black Soulstone, would that have killed the Prime Evils? If not, then why did they want to smash it? Is it because they wanted to banish them again? But, then why tag them to pull them out of banishment just to banish them again?
They were able to spread their influence because they were not properly contained--Diablo and Mephisto were in populated areas, with their soulstones in convenient easy-to-access locations.
I'm going to say that if you left it unguarded in either location, that demons would be able to recover it within a month. I do not think that they'd need technology, just an idea of where the soulstone was. Perhaps they can get gills through magic or something, or maybe Diablo can influence nearby wildlife as well as humans.
And you don't think that you'd lose track of it if you threw it to the bottom of the ocean
The Black Soulstone was different, it was made by what was essentially a mad scientist. It did have that power while the other soulstones didn't.
Of course, keeping in mind that Baal was basically left unguarded in a tomb of the desert, until Diablo just kind of walked in there and freed him. Seeing how they didn't recover Baal within a month, I'd say leaving a soulstone unguarded in an inconvenient location is a possibility.
You being up another excellent plot hole. Why can the mad scientist make a soulstone that can possibly kill a demon, while the Angels with all the resources of Heaven couldn't?
07/29/2012 08:20 AMPosted by Andaphelmorif their souls were banished into the black abyss, how did adria collected mephisto and diablo's soul?
07/25/2012 03:03 PMPosted by LittleDiscoI didn't state that at all, please stop putting words into my mouth.
I found my proof on the website that you provided.The Black Abyss is not where Demon Souls go to die. The Black Abyss is where Demon Souls are spawned from. I never said that he was permanently banished either. He was merely banished from Sanctuary. It's never stated that this banishment was permanent.
"Now his corrupt Soulstone has to be destroyed at the only possible place: the Hellforge, in order to banish Mephisto's enraged spirit back into the Black Abyss and to prevent him from manifesting into the world of Sanctuary ever again. "
This statement from the website is actually a paraphrase of what Deckard Cain says when he gives you the quest: "The time has come for you to destroy Mephisto's Soulstone! Take the Stone to the Hellforge. Place it upon the forge and strike it soundly with the Hammer. Only by doing this can you prevent Mephisto from manifesting in this world ever again."
"the Abyss is where demons are actually spawned from and where they return to when they die."
I shouldn't have to spell this out, but I probably have to. If destroying the soulstone at Hellforge prevents them from being able to manifest in the world ever again, that means their banishment to the Black Abyss is permanent, because they won't be able to respawn out of the Black Abyss or else would be manifesting in the world again.
For the purposes of the story, having Mephisto permanently banished is functionally identical to having Mephisto killed.
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