Diablo® III

True DPS of DT WW barb - Player Rankings


Yes, that looks about right.


cool, and the next step i cannot do. help please?


You put it in the formula, i will not insult your intelligence by doing simple arithmetic for you:

[(.7 *M) + (.4833 * ({M+O} /2) ) ]* t

if the notation is confusing: ({M+O} /2) simply is (o + m) divided by 2.
alright so if i compare my 2h-er to my dw setup the dps change would be...

M= 56860
O= 49858

Tdps = [(.7 * 56860) + (.4833 * ({56860+49858} /2)) ]* 5.45 = [39802 + ( .4833 * 53359 )] *5.45 = 357467.705615

[(.7 * 99585) + (.4833 * 99585] * 3.53 =[ 69709.5 + 48129.4305 ] * 3.53= 415971.424665

*edit* okay i got it lol


which means i get more dps with my 2h-er? cool.
alright so if i compare my 2h-er to my dw setup the dps change would be...

M= 56860
O= 49858

Tdps = [(.7 * 56860) + (.4833 * ({56860+49858} /2)) ]* 5.45 = [39802 + ( .4833 * 53359 )] *5.45 = 357467.705615

[(.7 * 99585) + (.4833 * 99585] * 3.53 =[ 69709.5 + 48129.4305 ] * 3.53= 415971.424665

*edit* okay i got it lol


which means i get more dps with my 2h-er? cool.


That is true but also note 5.45 average ticks per second generates MUCH more fury and loh than 3.53 t. The damage difference is marginal and its clear the DW setup wins by a landslide. Im pretty simple by trying both you have realized the DW clears just about as fast but also gives you much more wotb time, is this correct?
Edited by Lorenze#1650 on 10/13/2012 12:23 PM PDT
hmm okay. well then its hard to tell the difference already because im going ls with my 2h-er whilst loh on my dw setup is much higher

*edit*
so as im using a soj the dps is 27% higher on elites flat out?
Edited by CDFH#1843 on 10/13/2012 12:25 PM PDT
wait my EHP=723K

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/captamerica-1814/Worrior/16858339


I really wonder how they calculate unbuffed EHP because 723k is very high compared to my calculators (and other calculators / spreadsheets) 520k. Here is your EHP on my page: http://www.d3rawr.com/d-291Vux78

http://www.d3rawr.com/c-V34wMa2r

M 48795
O 46067
t = 7.5+8.57/2 = 8.035

2.22223-2.49999 aps - 8 frames per tick - 7.50 ticks per second - 23 ticks
2.50000-2.85714 aps - 7 frames per tick - 8.57 ticks per second - 26 ticks


I don't get it. Your APS is 2.31 and 2.16, shouldnt it be this:

2.22223-2.50000 aps - 8 frames per tick - 7.50 ticks per second - 23 ticks
2.00001-2.22222 aps - 9 frames per tick - 6.67 ticks per second - 20 ticks
Edited by sssd#2577 on 10/13/2012 12:27 PM PDT
alright took a stab at it, here's what i got

569,036.99 o.o

-edit-
I use a 25% SoJ for elites.

569,036.99+142259.2475=
711,296.23

unbuffed vs elites: 711,296.23
Edited by LordStark#3999 on 10/13/2012 12:47 PM PDT
so how is the battle efficiency score calculated? with unbuffed ehp on diabloprogress?
Edited by CDFH#1843 on 10/13/2012 12:30 PM PDT
BES - Battle efficiency score: { (Tdps * [ehp^(1.15)] * (1+ (ls * (3/10) ) ) *
(1+ [loh/2500] ) } /100,000]

TDPS = 415971.424665
ehp = 612022
ls = 8.9
loh = 621

415971.424665 * [ 612022 ^ 1.15] * [1+ ( 8.9 * {3/10} ] * ( 1 + [621/2500] ) /100000 =
415971.424665 * 4541760.70938 * 3.67 * 1.2484 /100000 = ?

okay im lost. the number is too big. something is wrong with my formula lol
Edited by CDFH#1843 on 10/13/2012 12:42 PM PDT
BES - Battle efficiency score: { (Tdps * [ehp^(1.15)] * (1+ (ls * (3/10) ) ) *
(1+ [loh/2500] ) } /100,000]

TDPS = 415971.424665
ehp = 612022
ls = 8.9
loh = 621

415971.424665 * [ 612022 ^ (1/1.102/b])] * [1+ ( 8.9 * {3/100} ] * ( 1 + [621/2500] ) /500000 =
415971.424665 * 471303.878256 * 1.367 * 1.2484 /[b]5000000
= ?


Use the EHP from d3progress, its not perfect but its good enough for our purposes.
There was an error with the LS coefficnet ive fixed it now and the ehp power coeff as well.

your BES is 669139
Edited by Lorenze#1650 on 10/13/2012 12:48 PM PDT
ahh ! so its 500000 instead
10/13/2012 12:49 PMPosted by CDFH
ahh ! so its 500000 instead


That number is just there to "Scale" the number into a reasonable range. It would be nice to get values from 100m to 1b, 1b being near perfect stats. this is nice because it will translate into essentially a TRUE score/10 rating and gives players a way to truly compare 2 DT WW barbs side by side without having worry about things like 2h inflation or EHP stacking.
So I am trying to calculate mine... but I suck to much at math. I don't under stand how to get my ticks*per.... Help anyone? :D

I got as far as putting my info here http://www.d3rawr.com/c
Edited by Eii#1168 on 10/13/2012 1:42 PM PDT
So I am trying to calculate mine... but I suck to much at math. I don't under stand how to get my ticks*per.... Help anyone? :D

I got as far as putting my info here http://www.d3rawr.com/c


Find what your ASP it and compare it here: https://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6037344497

0.90000-0.90909 aps - 22 frames per tick - 2.73 ticks per second - 9 ticks
0.90910-0.95238 aps - 21 frames per tick - 2.86 ticks per second - 9 ticks
0.95239-1.00000 aps - 20 frames per tick - 3.00 ticks per second - 9 ticks
1.00001-1.05263 aps - 19 frames per tick - 3.16 ticks per second - 10 ticks
1.05264-1.11111 aps - 18 frames per tick - 3.33 ticks per second - 10 ticks
1.11112-1.17647 aps - 17 frames per tick - 3.53 ticks per second - 11 ticks
1.17648-1.25000 aps - 16 frames per tick - 3.75 ticks per second - 12 ticks
1.25001-1.33333 aps - 15 frames per tick - 4.00 ticks per second - 12 ticks
1.33334-1.42857 aps - 14 frames per tick - 4.29 ticks per second - 13 ticks
1.42858-1.53846 aps - 13 frames per tick - 4.62 ticks per second - 14 ticks
1.53847-1.66667 aps - 12 frames per tick - 5.00 ticks per second - 15 ticks
1.66668-1.81818 aps - 11 frames per tick - 5.45 ticks per second - 17 ticks
1.81819-2.00000 aps - 10 frames per tick - 6.00 ticks per second - 18 ticks
2.00001-2.22222 aps - 9 frames per tick - 6.67 ticks per second - 20 ticks
2.22223-2.50000 aps - 8 frames per tick - 7.50 ticks per second - 23 ticks
2.50001-2.85714 aps - 7 frames per tick - 8.57 ticks per second - 26 ticks
2.85715-3.33333 aps - 6 frames per tick - 10.0 ticks per second - 30 ticks
3.33334-4.00000 aps - 5 frames per tick - 12.0 ticks per second - 36 ticks
4.00001-5.00000 aps - 4 frames per tick - 15.0 ticks per second - 45 ticks
theoretical breakpoints
5.00001-6.66667 aps - 3 frames per tick - 20.0 ticks per second - 60 ticks
6.66668-10.00000 aps - 2 frames per tick - 30.0 ticks per second - 90 ticks
10.00001-20.0000 aps - 1 frame per tick - 60.0 ticks per second - 180 ticks

It will be x + y ticks per second / 2
Thanks! Looks like my "ticks" is what is holding me back. Then again I completey skipped over items with +attack speed. I am only getting 5.5 ticks. This was to be more flexible with my build out options. So if I didn't like DTWW I could just switch out skills and not gear.

Normal: 499,152.731
Elite: 648898.1653

I hope I did the math right.
Edited by Eii#1168 on 10/13/2012 2:11 PM PDT
can some1 check me?

M = 73963
O = 31682
t = (5.45+6.00)/2 = 5.725

TDPS = [(.7 *M) + (.4833 * ({M+O} /2)) ]* t
= [(.7 *73963) + (.4833 * ({73963+31682} /2)) ]* 5.725
= [51774.1 + 25529.1]* 5.725
= 442560.9

BES
ehp = 721182
LS = 5.5
Loh = 1056

={ (Tdps * [ehp^(1/1.02)] * (1+ (ls * (3/100) ) ) * (1+ [loh/2500] ) } /500,000]

={ (442560.9 * [553581.1] * (1+ (5.5 * (3/100) ) ) * (1+ [1056/2500] ) } /500,000]

={ (442560.9 * [553581.1] * (1.165 ) * (1.422) } /500,000]

= 811726.6
Edited by helldemon#1353 on 10/13/2012 2:53 PM PDT
I've added the tdps numbers to the calculator and tested it with some of the posts here, looks good so far. You can find it at http://www.d3rawr.com/d (same as the /c calculator just a little bit more detailed) on the lower right "DPS Detailed" box.
If you can't find it here is a picture: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/b1nxtxhh/tdps.jpg
(seems like i have the lowest tdps so far lawl)

edit: I can do this with BES too but i have to use my calculators ehp and i'm not sure about that because of the big difference between d3progress and my page.
Edited by sssd#2577 on 10/13/2012 3:27 PM PDT
I've added the tdps numbers to the calculator and tested it with some of the posts here, looks good so far. You can find it at http://www.d3rawr.com/d (same as the /c calculator just a little bit more detailed) on the lower right "DPS Detailed" box.
If you can't find it here is a picture: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/b1nxtxhh/tdps.jpg
(seems like i have the lowest tdps so far lawl)


You are a !@#$ing saint.

Thank you very much, sssd.
I've added the tdps numbers to the calculator and tested it with some of the posts here, looks good so far. You can find it at http://www.d3rawr.com/d (same as the /c calculator just a little bit more detailed) on the lower right "DPS Detailed" box.
If you can't find it here is a picture: http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/b1nxtxhh/tdps.jpg
(seems like i have the lowest tdps so far lawl)


I just realized you were the creator of sssdrawr I use your site to check dps change for pretty much every gear purchase. This will make the formulation much more accessible for players. Thank you so much!

As for EHP, is there a reason why there is such a big difference between your's and dprog? Honestly, as long as everyone uses the same source data it should not make a difference in the end. Tdps is very solid as it stands but BES and definitely RES will likely need fine tuning as it is so much harder to compute character effectiveness when you factor in ms loh and ls in addition to tdps. however, even the current implementation of the BES formula based on your ehp stats would be more than awesome.
Edited by Lorenze#1650 on 10/13/2012 3:48 PM PDT
The next patch will come on next Tuesday. Can't wait
10/13/2012 03:29 PMPosted by CaptAmerica
The next patch will come on next Tuesday. Can't wait


So on October 23rd?
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