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So, Obama or Romney (part 2)

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11/04/2012 11:39 PMPosted by Corey8806
random uninformed garbage


1: these people would have previously qualified for free insurance, now have to pay, how is that cheeper

Where do we get free insurance today? Did you secretly vote FOR Obamacare?


2: no its getting squashed and butchered

3: (wikipedia copypaste) The text of the law expands Medicaid eligibility to include all individuals and families with incomes up to 133% of the poverty level, and simplifies the CHIP enrollment process. In National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius, the Supreme Court effectively allowed states to opt out of the Medicaid expansion, and some states have stated their intention to do so. In states that choose to reject the Medicaid expansion, individuals and families at or below 133% of the poverty line, but above their state's existing Medicaid threshold, will not be eligible for coverage; additionally, subsidies are not available to those below 100% of the poverty line. As many states have eligibility thresholds significantly below 133% of the poverty line, and many do not provide any coverage for childless adults, this may create a coverage gap in those states.


Once again, you confirm it.

Your entire bold part is ONLY for states that OPT OUT of Obamacare. The previous statement confirms what I told you,

" The text of the law expands Medicaid eligibility to include all individuals and families with incomes up to 133% of the poverty level, and simplifies the CHIP enrollment process. "

You cannot reasonably blame Obamacare if a state opts out of it and thus creates a coverage gap.


i see now, so what you did was take all the information that supported your arugment and ommited all the information that proves you wrong and submitted information out of context... just like obama :-) i see why you're voting for him, two peas in a pod.


Because Obama has broken promises does not invalidate the promises he kept, but it does invalidate your claim that 'Obama has broken every promise'.

I didn't realize you couldn't effectively navigate a website.


yup, you beat me with my hasty general statement, debate 101, obama is still a terrorist :-)
11/04/2012 11:42 PMPosted by Vekkul


1: these people would have previously qualified for free insurance, now have to pay, how is that cheeper

Where do we get free insurance today? Did you secretly vote FOR Obamacare?


2: no its getting squashed and butchered

3: (wikipedia copypaste) The text of the law expands Medicaid eligibility to include all individuals and families with incomes up to 133% of the poverty level, and simplifies the CHIP enrollment process. In National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius, the Supreme Court effectively allowed states to opt out of the Medicaid expansion, and some states have stated their intention to do so. In states that choose to reject the Medicaid expansion, individuals and families at or below 133% of the poverty line, but above their state's existing Medicaid threshold, will not be eligible for coverage; additionally, subsidies are not available to those below 100% of the poverty line. As many states have eligibility thresholds significantly below 133% of the poverty line, and many do not provide any coverage for childless adults, this may create a coverage gap in those states.


Once again, you confirm it.

Your entire bold part is ONLY for states that OPT OUT of Obamacare. The previous statement confirms what I told you,

" The text of the law expands Medicaid eligibility to include all individuals and families with incomes up to 133% of the poverty level, and simplifies the CHIP enrollment process. "

You cannot reasonably blame Obamacare if a state opts out of it and thus creates a coverage gap.


im done arguing with you because you misinterpert the information every single time, only seeing what you WANT TOO SEE.. YOU CANT !@#$ING OPT OUT OF OBAMA CARE YOU MORON, ITS MANDATORY AND ITS NATIONWIDE, YOU CAN OPT OUT OF THE MEDICAID EXTENSIONS!

good night, read something tomorrow you might learn something...
Bloomberg News reports R-Money didn't pay taxes for 10 years, hid it in tax exempt shelter with Mormon church. Check it out. It will go to his kids tax free if he gets elected and kills the estate tax.

R-Money is a guy with no character or convictions, he will act to please the loudest people in the room. Did you know he participated in pro-vietnam war rallies then took 5 differments to avoid service? He elected to do missionary work in France while his peers fought and died in his place. That missionary work could have been done after he went to a war he felt strongly enough to protest for. That says alot about him. He's all for a war as long as he or his family aren't at risk.

The guy is a fraud and everyone knows it.


yup, you beat me with my hasty general statement, debate 101, obama is still winning the election :-)


fixed.


i see now, so what you did was take all the information that supported your arugment and ommited all the information that proves you wrong and submitted information out of context... just like obama :-) i see why you're voting for him, two peas in a pod.


Because Obama has broken promises does not invalidate the promises he kept, but it does invalidate your claim that 'Obama has broken every promise'.

I didn't realize you couldn't effectively navigate a website.


lol @ hardcore Obama apologists

Also, the income level to avoid the fine is actually lower than what you said but that isn't what I was talking about. I was talking about "not paying anything". Every time the government devalues the currency, the poor pay a silent, hidden tax in higher prices on consumer goods. One thing this Obamacare law forces is that the risk pool of policies includes everyone, even those with bad health. These policies are super expensive. Go look at the rates. It will be cheaper for many people to pay the fine than get insurance which costs 4x that of regular insurance. Subsidies don't just spring miraculously from governments magical pot of gold. It comes from somewhere (viz. the productive sectors of the economy).
Edited by slaw#1739 on 11/4/2012 11:46 PM PST
YOU CANT !@#$ING OPT OUT OF OBAMA CARE YOU MORON, ITS MANDATORY AND ITS NATIONWIDE



In National Federation of Independent Business v. Sebelius, the Supreme Court effectively allowed states to opt out of the Medicaid expansion, and some states have stated their intention to do so. In states that choose to reject the Medicaid expansion.

Obamacare created the Medicaid Expansion, so the Expansion is effectively part of Obamacare.

States can opt out. It is not forced. However, it will work better for everyone if they don't, because then poor people can't get covered again.
Neither because I have no interest in choosing somebody to tell me how to manage my own life and force me at gunpoint to do so.
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11/04/2012 10:06 PMPosted by Vekkul
Obama called on the Navy SEALS and they killed Osama Bin Laden. The Navy SEALS called on Obama and he watched them die while ordering all military not to help. I would vote for a paperclip before I voted for someone who pisses on the military like Obama has.


Hilarious, considering he's lowered troop casualties a lot by using drones.

I like how you know exactly what the military did, too, Commander, because it sounds like you're assuming a lot of knowledge you can't possibly have.
No, that's not true.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_casualties_in_Afghanistan
http://icasualties.org/oef/
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2012/09/11/Mainstream-Media-Ignoring-Increase-In-Deaths-Wounded-In-Afghanistan-Under-Obama

There have been more troop deaths in Obama's 4 years than there was during all 8 Bush years.

And no, he's not assuming anything. There have been multiple stories about how the administration did nothing to help in Benghazi. The consulate was attacked at least 2 times before 9/11 of this year and the administration did nothing. They pleaded for more security, and the administration did nothing. During the 9/11 attack, they asked for backup and didn't get any. There was plenty of intelligence to know it was a planned terrorist attack, but the administration spent two weeks focusing on a video very few people had seen.


Also, the income level to avoid the fine is actually lower than what you said but that isn't what I was talking about. I was talking about "not paying anything". Every time the government devalues the currency, the poor pay a silent, hidden tax in higher prices on consumer goods. One thing this Obamacare law forces is that the risk pool of policies includes everyone, even those with bad health. These policies are super expensive. Go look at the rates. It will be cheaper for many people to pay the fine than get insurance which costs 4x that of regular insurance. Subsidies don't just spring miraculously from governments magical pot of gold. It comes from somewhere (viz. the productive sectors of the economy).


I like how you denied my facts while failing to supply any. Where was my math wrong?

If you want to talk 'hidden' taxes, you can, but it looks like you're just trying to change the subject.

If you make <133% of FPL, Medicaid will cover you, and you will pay no tax.
Health care prices are high because of government intervention in the economy, not because they haven't acted yet.

Look at Lasik surgery as an example of how health care prices could be if government wasn't involved. Insurance doesn't cover Lasik, so as the technology has improved, quality has increased while prices have gone down. It is the same as in computer hardware where markets are allowed to thrive. You have continually improving quality and continually declining prices.

Here is a good overview of the disastrous effects of government on health care for anyone who actually wants to learn: http://mises.org/daily/3737
11/04/2012 11:47 PMPosted by NocketRipple
Neither because I have no interest in choosing somebody to tell me how to manage my own life and force me at gunpoint to do so.


So, are you saying you're OK with everyone else choosing the person to tell you how to manage your own life etc., or are you saying you're going to move to a deserted island?

I like how you denied my facts while failing to supply any. Where was my math wrong?

If you want to talk 'hidden' taxes, you can, but it looks like you're just trying to change the subject.

If you make <133% of FPL, Medicaid will cover you, and you will pay no tax.


I was never talking about the income level required to avoid the tax. I was only talking about "not paying anything", as was the person I responded to. You seem to be of the position that Obamacare is a good thing and you are flat out wrong. Let's stick with that subject.
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I love it how people know nothing about something and yet they stick to their guns as if they do.

Goodnight, Obama's got 4 more years and the poorest of us will get free healthcare.

Please, go educate yourselves.

http://obamacarefacts.com/
this election is voting for stupid and stupider.
HAHAHAHAHHAHA

I love it how people know nothing about something and yet they stick to their guns as if they do.

Goodnight, Obama's got 4 more years and the poorest of us will get free healthcare.

Please, go educate yourselves.

http://obamacarefacts.com/
When Obama was promoting the health care act, he kept saying millions of uninsured people would be covered under it. So the health care system will soon be covering a lot more people pretty soon.

Polls have shown that thousands of doctors, maybe even 1/3 of the doctors in the country, plan on retiring if the health care act is put into effect. So we're about to have a significant increase in the number of patients and decrease in the number of doctors. How will that be handled? Does that website address how this problem will be dealt with?
The correct answer is 'neither', the fact is a 2-party corporatist system is not beneficial to anyone except the politicians and big business.

We suffer from a delusion, fed by the media, that if you don't like person A, that means person B is automatically the one you vote for. as long as we keep thinking that way, we'll never really get quality politicians in office, we only get the ones who lie the best and are the most adept at raising money.

Just because you don't like Obama for some reason doesn't mean the only course of action is to vote for Romney, and vice versa. There's a reason you're allowed to vote for anyone and everyone for president, because that's how it was originally intended to be, not a super bowl-esque event between two sides. That's the commercialization of politics and we're worse off for it.

That said, if you insist on picking one or the other, Obama seems to be the lesser of two evils this year. i've not heard one single valid argument in favor of Romney aside from wealthy people not wanting to pay their fair share of taxes, which is intellectually dishonest.
Edited by Oldboy#1827 on 11/5/2012 12:14 AM PST
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