Diablo® III

So, Obama or Romney (part 2)

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Obama is Tyrael
Well i am not so impress about Obama, would like to give Romney a chance. But the biggest issues isnt our country at stake, its other countries esp the Russia. Some of you doesnt know what going on over there and Putin is building up his military forces, the former KGB. Already had a vote like 46 percent like the Americans and others hated us over there and we dont need another Cold War.

Putin said he would rather work with Obama instead, Romney would be mislead and may not work out well. The powers of Communists is pretty big through out the globe, so we need to be extra careful here.

On the other hands, Romney want to put everyone back to work, regardless. There alot of peoples out there cant, some are mentally ills and social disorders. Cant put peoples to work if you dont have jobs line up yet, not everyone want to work at the oil rigs.

Personally i would pick Obama instead, least it would be on the safe side.
Edited by TheVulture#1539 on 11/5/2012 12:24 AM PST
I voted for Jill Stein. Maybe someday we'll have a viable third party.
Edited by RabidCoyote#1881 on 11/5/2012 12:56 AM PST
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90 Night Elf Hunter
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Conservative Christian myself and I vote liberal/democrat--though I'll go republican if I like the candidate's platform.

And the person you quote is seriously trolling.


Conservative Christians are not pro abortion or pro gay marriage. I despise chameleon heretics who define their own existance by ego. This is why the Bible teaches the road to heaven is narrow, and most will not go there. God doesn't tolerate people who bend and break his commandments. To vote Democrat is to spit in gods face. There is no quicker road to ancient Rome then what we have now.


This has to be a troll post but. . .

Who said I'm pro-abortion or pro gay marriage?

And really? Voting Democrat is spitting in God's face? Did an angel reveal that to you? Did he also tell you that God is on the Republicans side and Jesus Himself wants us to vote for Romney?

Seriously, this is not a theocracy and I don't expect any candidate to be biblically correct. However, I do expect them to treat their constituents with dignity, honor, and respect. I also expect them to be competent, intelligent, and act with at least a modicum of integrity. And above all I want the president of the United States to be as inclusive as possible--none of which describes Mitt Romney.

Romney's government would be of the rich white males, by the rich white males, and for the rich white males, and as such, I'd find little to no representation of my interests, modest as they are.

11/04/2012 11:16 PMPosted by poochie
Conservative Christians are not pro abortion or pro gay marriage. I despise chameleon heretics who define their own existance by ego. This is why the Bible teaches the road to heaven is narrow, and most will not go there. God doesn't tolerate people who bend and break his commandments. To vote Democrat is to spit in gods face. There is no quicker road to ancient Rome then what we have now.


I haven't actually seen a Christian who doesn't break the commandments or bend/twist the words of bible to serve his own desire.

Gay marriage isn't even in the commandments and abortion is debatable. But if god says you don't kill, then you don't join the military and kill other people.


A better translation of the 6th commandment is thou shalt not murder.

And no Christian (at least an honest one) would claim to be perfect. In fact, that's a fundamental truth of Christianity: all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. But that's another topic for a different thread.


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I had to split up my post because of a 50 000 character limit -- at only 35 000 characters.

WTH?
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I can't believe the random lies most of you are spewing. You can't wave a magic wand and lower the HP (Unemployment) of a monster (Economy). Now that I've used general Diablo terms. The President has done a lot of good these past 4 years and unlike you pessimistic people, I try to focus on the good rather than the bad. In the case of Obama there has been a lot more good than bad.

With that being said, if Romney was still the same Romney from when he was a Governor of Mass. I would probably consider voting for him, however he has changed all of his views to fit the needs of his crazy right wing party and it is that reason I can't vote for him.
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You seem to be of the position that Obamacare is a good thing and you are flat out wrong. Let's stick with that subject.


http://www.irs.gov/uac/Affordable-Care-Act-Tax-Provisions

There's a lot in there, I just want to highlight this one:

Medical Loss Ratio (MLR)
Beginning in 2011, insurance companies are required to spend a specified percentage of premium dollars on medical care and quality improvement activities, meeting a medical loss ratio (MLR) standard. Insurance companies that are not meeting the MLR standard will be required to provide rebates to their consumers beginning in 2012. For information on the federal tax consequences to an insurance company that pays a MLR rebate and an individual policyholder who receives a MLR rebate, as well as information on the federal tax consequences to employees if a MLR rebate stems from a group health insurance policy, see our frequently asked questions.

Obamacare is a good thing. I am so sorry that you have been spoon-fed enough !@#$ that you believe it is a delicacy.
Oramna 2012!!
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You seem to be of the position that Obamacare is a good thing and you are flat out wrong. Let's stick with that subject.


http://www.irs.gov/uac/Affordable-Care-Act-Tax-Provisions

There's a lot in there, I just want to highlight this one:

Medical Loss Ratio (MLR)
Beginning in 2011, insurance companies are required to spend a specified percentage of premium dollars on medical care and quality improvement activities, meeting a medical loss ratio (MLR) standard. Insurance companies that are not meeting the MLR standard will be required to provide rebates to their consumers beginning in 2012. For information on the federal tax consequences to an insurance company that pays a MLR rebate and an individual policyholder who receives a MLR rebate, as well as information on the federal tax consequences to employees if a MLR rebate stems from a group health insurance policy, see our frequently asked questions.

Obamacare is a good thing. I am so sorry that you have been spoon-fed enough !@#$ that you believe it is a delicacy.

Of course there are some good things in the law. Most republicans would agree that part of it is good and should stay. But that doesn't mean we have to accept the whole thing.

When Obama was promoting the health care act, he kept saying millions of uninsured people would be covered under it. So the health care system will soon be covering a lot more people pretty soon.

Polls have shown that thousands of doctors, maybe even 1/3 of the doctors in the country, plan on retiring if the health care act is put into effect. So we're about to have a significant increase in the number of patients and decrease in the number of doctors. How will that be handled? Does that website address how this problem will be dealt with?
Obama has been the worst president in history, its no secret. Listening to Romney talk during the debates was like a breath of fresh air. Obama doesn't even know any facts about his own country and lied like crazy, we all saw it. Why do you think he always thinking about how to say things. Sometimes it seems like hes doing everything he can to not screw up. He had no emotion about what he was talking about because it was all jibber jabber here say. If everyone watched the debates with an open mind then I truly believe it would be the end of obama.
Edited by Sergey#1200 on 11/5/2012 2:11 AM PST
11/05/2012 02:10 AMPosted by Sergey
Obama has been the worst president in history, its no secret. Listening to Romney talk during the debates was like a breath of fresh air. Obama doesn't even know any facts about his own country and lied like crazy, we all saw it. Why do you think he always thinking about how to say things. Sometimes it seems like hes doing everything he can to not screw up. He had no emotion about what he was talking about because it was all jibber jabber here say. If everyone watched the debates with an open mind then I truly believe it would be the end of obama.


Lol Romney supporter talking about watching something with a open mind thats rich.
if romney when we should just move to canida because romneys foreign policy is terrible. I swear he has never taken a course in economics in his life and he will for sure ruin this country. I seriously don't even know where to begin with him.
From the outside in, you guys need obama in with majority so he doesnt get veto'd everytime he tries to do something good for you. Thoughts up here in Canada and majority of the civilized world dislike romney. You guys have had a nice 4 years of no bible thumping creationists telling you what to do.
Love the fact rep. stated "if a woman is raped, its part of gods plan"
LMFAO! At least bush was stupid funny, this romney is just a tool :( Can there be a first second and third lady in the whitehouse?

so you want us to vote for a man who cant pass a bill? we need a president who can unite the parties with persuasive argument instead of challenging the party and getting THIS reaction..


Congratulations, http://piv.pivpiv.dk/
Guentanemo still open

Vote Romney
The individual mandate is necessary to correct the adverse selection death spiral that occurs in private insurance markets.

Briefly, insurers and there customers have strong asymmetrical information between them. Customers know their risks of falling ill. Insurers only know the distribution of risk of falling ill across their customers.

Insurers charge a premium that will cover the their expenses according to the mean risk of falling ill for their customers. Customers who have a chance of falling ill that is lower than the mean risk (and hence premium) will find they are paying too much for health insurance and drop out of the plan. These are the youngest and healthiest folks.

The insurer is now faced with a smaller risk pool that has a higher risk of falling ill. Their expenses have now gone up. As a result, they raise the premium to the new mean distribution of risk of falling ill. Customers who have a chance of falling ill that is lower than the new mean risk (and hence new premium) will find they are paying too much for health insurance and drop out of the plan. These are the next group of younger and healthier folks.

This continues on until the only people left in the risk pool are those who are very ill or very likely to get ill. Premiums are extremely high. The insurance plan collapses. All have lost their insurance.

This can be prevented by allowing insurers to experience rate their customers. Essentially, the insurer investigates your health status and charges a premium that will cover your potential risk to them. Those who have higher risks must pay more.

We do not allow insurers to do this however because it is unfair (not economically) for those with higher risks to pay more. A little girl born with a preexisting condition, a worker unknowingly exposed to dangerous carcinogens by a criminal firm, must pay higher premiums, but is that fair to them? Thus, we don't allow experience rating.

The only solution left is to prevent people from dropping out of the risk pool, an individual mandate. Stop complaining about the individual mandate if you know nothing about the economics of health care markets.

Of course, we could allow the insurer to experience rate and the government to pay the difference in premiums for higher risk folks. This is not politically feasible.

Also, please stop mentioning the poor. The poor will never be covered under any private insurance system for health care. Why? They are poor. They cannot afford any premiums, never mind premiums commensurate with their risk of falling ill.

The poor are supposed to be exempt from the fine and are supposed to be covered by public health insurance. If neither of these two things are true then you may complain.
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