You can ony use so much AP btw..... any extra returned after a full bar is useless.
Please do AP return on that too Shand with 20 apoc and 50% CC.
Then add that extra AP to how many more liquifies you can cast.
I think the math will trounce molten,
I see it in game but dont know how to do equations
11/15/2012 01:27 AMPosted by AimlessAlright enough BS. I make 2 video and prove Liquefy beat molten. I seen it enough in game if I'm only able to cast half the moltens as liquifies liquify wins or I wouldnt use it.
11/15/2012 01:27 AMPosted by AimlessAnother thing is i do 1200% dps with liquify and only 780% with SNS. Why would I use SNS exclusively?
Shand your SNS multiler is higher cuz your CD is higher. We went though this already in my "shocking aspect nerfed huge" thread. Remember I had a CD wand and was getting 8.5 but when I lost all my CD with a IAS wand i only got like 7.5.
It's gone up since cuz I added a little CD.
As long as you can't spam Molten, then Liquefy
When Liquefy impacts a group of mob, as long as it deals critical to anyone of the mob, it will last for 8 seconds, kinda must have 8 seconds impact and the dot stacks. After 5-10 impacts, you'll get a good damage figure solely from the dot.
have u guys taken into account that liquify pools stack dmg (i presume they do)?
in that case it seems quite obvious intuitively that liquify is better than molten in longer battles even with ww as the driving engine for procs both for more proc'ing (arguably useless when u use ww as it just procs better, and i think in dmg). Remember that meteors take a huge chunk of ur attack turns which in turns limit the number of ww u can push out, which in turn limits ur apoc return and then consequently, the amount of meteors u can throw out reliably
i havent done the maths, just noting how it feels.. it does seem liquify is smoother (and thus more dmg after a certain time period) even with ww as the driving force. I guess the breaking point of which is better depends on the mp and cc ur running (along with ias as well).. if u can one shot stuff with molten at lower mps though, molten seems the obvious choice.. for longer battles though, i feel liquify is the better choice (at least on my high cc, relatively low AS)
Yay look at 3rd post in wizard forums!
Do you have the gear to run high end molten to prove?
Mainly high CC 65+
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