Diablo® III

Very confused........

I'm gonna use my WD for this example/question. If my armor gives me 57% damage reduction and my lowest resist gives me 75% damage reduction (let's say fire), how does this calculate against desecrate? Say the damage would be 10K for this scenario. I've read the posts but I'm still a bit confused. The reason I ask is because I'm about to purchase a new chest piece. The armor is 830 but no resist all. I just want to know if it would benefit or hurt. Thanks in advance.
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*EDITED* I was going to try and alleviate the confusion but only ended up posting incorrect information prior to this edit. I will revisit this post when I have an accurate response for you all.
Edited by Grimiku on 11/21/2012 12:14 PM PST
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I hope I can alleviate your confusion. The easiest way to calculate if something is a defensive gain or loss is to compare the total percent damage reduction for both Armor and Resistance. If your Resistance gives you 75% damage reduction and your Armor gives you 60% reduction, then the new gear is only a gain if the total is higher than 135. Examples below!

Current Gear
75% damage reduction from Resistance
+
60% damage reduction from Armor
= 135

Defensive Upgrade Example
70% damage reduction from Resistance
+
66% damage reduction from Armor
= 136 GAIN :)

- OR -

Defensive Downgrade Example
70% damage reduction from Resistance
+
64% damage reduction from Armor
= 134 LOSS :(


WoW...didn't know i needed to pull out my calculator to know if I found an upgrade or not...
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Err... that equation doesnt really work.

By those numbers, I'd be "losing" on the deal if I were to drop my allres to 20%, but increase my armor to 100% mitigation.

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EDIT:

What you want to do reverse the % to "taken" instead of "resisted", and MULTIPLY the numbers together, not add them.

If you are looking for an "average" response that doesn't invvolve multiplying the inverse... then considering 1 allres to be = 10 armor is a good and fast calculation to use.

But adding %s is a nono.
Edited by Squaekers#1234 on 11/21/2012 11:38 AM PST
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I hope I can alleviate your confusion. The easiest way to calculate if something is a defensive gain or loss is to compare the total percent damage reduction for both Armor and Resistance. If your Resistance gives you 75% damage reduction and your Armor gives you 60% reduction, then the new gear is only a gain if the total is higher than 135. Examples below!

Current Gear
75% damage reduction from Resistance
+
60% damage reduction from Armor
= 135

Defensive Upgrade Example
70% damage reduction from Resistance
+
66% damage reduction from Armor
= 136 GAIN :)

- OR -

Defensive Downgrade Example
70% damage reduction from Resistance
+
64% damage reduction from Armor
= 134 LOSS :(


That is completely false.

If I have 80% reduction from armor, 40% from resist, I take (100% - 80%) * (100% - 40%) = 12% of incoming damage.

If swapping out one or more items changes that to 65% reduction from armor and 65% from resist, i take (100% - 65%) * (100% - 65%) = 12.25% of incoming damage.

This is a net defense loss, even though 65 + 65 > 80 + 40.

It's sad that the community managers at Blizzard don't even know how their own game works, and can't even do the basic math that any 5th grader (outside US) can.
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Incoming "I said it was the easiest way to calculate, not the most accurate one" post from blue (he'd be right too, btw).
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I hope I can alleviate your confusion. The easiest way to calculate if something is a defensive gain or loss is to compare the total percent damage reduction for both Armor and Resistance. If your Resistance gives you 75% damage reduction and your Armor gives you 60% reduction, then the new gear is only a gain if the total is higher than 135. Examples below!

Current Gear
75% damage reduction from Resistance
+
60% damage reduction from Armor
= 135

Defensive Upgrade Example
70% damage reduction from Resistance
+
66% damage reduction from Armor
= 136 GAIN :)

- OR -

Defensive Downgrade Example
70% damage reduction from Resistance
+
64% damage reduction from Armor
= 134 LOSS :(


That is completely false.

If I have 80% reduction from armor, 40% from resist, I take (100% - 80%) * (100% - 40%) = 12% of incoming damage.

If swapping out one or more items changes that to 65% reduction from armor and 65% from resist, i take (100% - 65%) * (100% - 65%) = 12.25% of incoming damage.

This is a net defense loss, even though 65 + 65 > 80 + 40.

It's sad that the community managers at Blizzard don't even know how their own game works, and can't even do the basic math that any 5th grader (outside US) can.


I think he just got called for a " meeting"

LOL
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my god, over 100% damage mitigation?!
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I hope I can alleviate your confusion. The easiest way to calculate if something is a defensive gain or loss is to compare the total percent damage reduction for both Armor and Resistance. If your Resistance gives you 75% damage reduction and your Armor gives you 60% reduction, then the new gear is only a gain if the total is higher than 135. Examples below!

Current Gear
75% damage reduction from Resistance
+
60% damage reduction from Armor
= 135

Defensive Upgrade Example
70% damage reduction from Resistance
+
66% damage reduction from Armor
= 136 GAIN :)

- OR -

Defensive Downgrade Example
70% damage reduction from Resistance
+
64% damage reduction from Armor
= 134 LOSS :(


WoW...didn't know i needed to pull out my calculator to know if I found an upgrade or not...


You didn't know that there was gonna be math involved in a role playing game with stats?

Really?

Really?

Really?
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you sir are an !@#$
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I hope I can alleviate your confusion. The easiest way to calculate if something is a defensive gain or loss is to compare the total percent damage reduction for both Armor and Resistance. If your Resistance gives you 75% damage reduction and your Armor gives you 60% reduction, then the new gear is only a gain if the total is higher than 135. Examples below!

Current Gear
75% damage reduction from Resistance
+
60% damage reduction from Armor
= 135

Defensive Upgrade Example
70% damage reduction from Resistance
+
66% damage reduction from Armor
= 136 GAIN :)

- OR -

Defensive Downgrade Example
70% damage reduction from Resistance
+
64% damage reduction from Armor
= 134 LOSS :(


adding percents? srly?

that mean if i somehow i manage to get both my damage reductions from resists and armor above 50% (66% and 71% for my monk) i'll be immune to damage, take negative damage or be healed by that damage?
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I messed up and did my math wrong. I don't want to try and hide my mistakes but I also do not want to mislead people so I am going to edit my original post. Thanks everyone for quickly letting me know.
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All your questions will be answered (unless his calculations are wrong :( )

http://d3up.com/b/125097
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