Diablo® III

The perfect rolled WIzard

Hey guys,

I was wondering what would be the biggest dps for a wizard, considering all the itens are perfect rolled.
So, what do you specialists say?

Maybe 500k-600k unbuffed? Anyone tryed in that dps simulators? Kieble?
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Higher than that I would imagine, assuming no thought is given to anything but DPS.
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yeah, I know Audi got up to 750k. I guess that's an interesting thing we could try. Would have to look up max rolls for all slots to do it. I'm guessing it'll be close to 1.5 million, because as your DPS goes up, each stat carries more weight. For example I think 1 int is like 50 dps for me, where it was like 250 dps for him. I'll see if I can find out all the caps and try it out.
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interesting idea but you have to remember that different items can roll different stats and you will never have all the stats in any piece of items.

For example: on an Amulet you'd need Int, RA, IAS, CC, CD, Armor, Vit perfectly rolled which is more than the 6 rolls available so you will always have to give up somewhere.

What you could do is take a template wizard for example and boost all their stats to perfect rolls to see what their "true potential" would be.

If you do this for different people with the same build but different gear you'd get a good idea of what a "perfect" wizard would look like for that build once you average everything out. Different players will favor different stats within the same build/skill.
Edited by Azliet#1154 on 11/29/2012 11:50 AM PST
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I think we could put something around 500 - 600k EHP, and all the rest go on pure dps.
That seems reasonable for me.
We could trick the stats to achieve that, giving up some dps stats here and there.

Anyone knows a table of max rolls?
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11/30/2012 04:28 AMPosted by BZs
Anyone knows a table of max rolls?


Here you go: http://www.d3rmt.com/guides/diablo-3-item-stat-maximum-values/

Does not take into account the rolls on legendaries (AS on Mempo / CD on WH etc) though.
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Here you go: http://www.d3rmt.com/guides/diablo-3-item-stat-maximum-values/

Does not take into account the rolls on legendaries (AS on Mempo / CD on WH etc) though.


Helm - Mempo w/ 6 CC and Andariel's with double Int roll are the two highest. Just depending on your current levels of CC / Int / CD.

Neck - Trifecta Tal Rasha's, or trifecta yellow.

Shoulders - EHP Shoulders yellow, or massive Vile Ward.

Chest - I think highest dmg would be Tal Rasha's with highest int.

Bracers - Lacuni's with 6CC / 9 IAS + max single roll of int.

Gloves - Trifecta with double int roll.

Belt - Witching Hour with max double roll int and highest CD / IAS

Pants - Inna's with 100 int. 9 IAS / 1CC

boots - Zunimassi's Trail with double int roll, or Legacy Zuni's depending on how IAS scales.

left Ring - Trifecta double int roll

right ring - Trifecta hellfire with extra int roll.

Let me know if i'm missing something.
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For max damage you would want to have the rings and amulet have the max additional damage so + 30-60 dmg or whatever max roll is. Still need best weapon and source
For weapon something with 100CD and O/S
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for boots, you can also consider natalya's boots and natalya's ring set (with 6cc) and both of them will give you 13cc together.
Edited by Toyyoda#1786 on 11/30/2012 7:23 AM PST
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Good Call. I'm sure there are other weird combo's i'm missing to...

Would a max dps skorn / 500int / 200CD / OS be more dps than a 1h black / os / cd / int + max triumvirate?

I'll keep both of those options open.

Also good call on the +dmg. Once I have a general list, i'll post each item specifically to get input on if that's considered the BIS. It's obviously gonna take multiple items in each slot since it's all relative to other items you are wearing.

Does anyone know max prime stat for a Random magic property?
I don't see any Andariel's with over 269 int, so i'm thinking it's 100 on helm? Sound right?
Edited by Kieble#1634 on 11/30/2012 8:25 AM PST
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The build will often affect the BIS items. An item that would be BIS for CM/WW probably won't be for Archon.

Just take a Mempo for example: it's perfect for CM/WW but really useless for an Archon since it can only roll either CC or CD and not both. Tal's helm or a good rare is clearly better for pure DPS builds.

If you follow the 6 roll/gear rule, you'll never get a consensus on what a perfect Wiz would be.

However, if you don't follow the rules and just max all the stats everywhere, you'll get an impossible Wiz.
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If going purely for max dps:

A perfect Skorn is less dps than even a sub-perfect black weapon + Triumvirate.
A trifecta amulet will edge out Tal Rasha due to the increased crit damage and +damage.
Shoulders must be Vile Ward because of the additional 100 int available.
Lacuni will be double roll int + cc.
Inna pants can have both 100 int and 100 vit.
Right ring will be trifecta zuni with +damage for the 130 int set bonus.
With all of that there are still 7 affixes for AR/armor rolls, which should be sufficient ehp.

Everything else on Kieble's list looks correct. (A perfect Mempo does do more dps than a perfect Tal Rasha helm.)
Edited by Shelendil#1520 on 11/30/2012 8:42 AM PST
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Yeah, I think he was talking just pure DPS. So whatever item got your paper doll dps up the highest.

For highest DPS it looks like it will be Mempo since helms can't roll CD or IAS naturally.

Perfect Mempo:
457 Armor
80 res all
9 IAS
200 int
6 CC
OS with radiant star (+58)

So far I've gotten highest DPS for the following:

Perfect Mempo:
457 Armor
80 res all
9 IAS
200 int
6 CC
OS with radiant star (+58)

Shoulders - Vile Ward
671 Armor
80 res all
+265 armor
300int
100 vit

Chest - Tal Rasha's
457 Armor
300 int
200 vit
9 IAS
3 OS X 58 int

Wrist - Lacuni's
253 Armor
9 IAS
6 CC
200 int

Gloves - Rare
Not sure on max armor
10 CC
50 CD
9 IAS
300 Int (3 random 100 int prop)


Obviously no one will ever get these, but it'll be fun to see theoretical top DPS a wizard can get.

Edit: Going to lunch, will do more when I get back.
Edited by Kieble#1634 on 11/30/2012 8:43 AM PST
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Yeah, I think he was talking just pure DPS. So whatever item got your paper doll dps up the highest.

For highest DPS it looks like it will be Mempo since helms can't roll CD or IAS naturally.


You are right.. I don't know where I got the impression we could roll CD on helm...
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Tal Rasha chest goes to 200 int/300 vit max.
You actually only spend 2 affixes to get to 300 int on gloves: 200 int + 100 int/100 vit
Same for Lacuni, can add 100 vit there.
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Tal Rasha chest goes to 200 int/300 vit max.
You actually only spend 2 affixes to get to 300 int on gloves: 200 int + 100 int/100 vit
Same for Lacuni, can add 100 vit there.


I was under the impressions random rolls capped at 100, not 100/100?
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11/30/2012 08:41 AMPosted by Kieble
Obviously no one will ever get these, but it'll be fun to see theoretical top DPS a wizard can get.


You know who is really good at making Photoshops of perfect items? Awes0m0.
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maybe the highest dps with buffed stats would go around 900k~1m?
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Tal Rasha chest goes to 200 int/300 vit max.
You actually only spend 2 affixes to get to 300 int on gloves: 200 int + 100 int/100 vit
Same for Lacuni, can add 100 vit there.


I was under the impressions random rolls capped at 100, not 100/100?


It's a capped roll of 100 for the affix int/vit.
http://d3inferno.com/affixes/ItemAffixes.html

Best I can do with your calculator is 1.07 mill buffed dps + 801k ehp. I'm lacking the info on the base armor values for items and the base damage for a weapon; do you know where to find reliable values for those?

Edit: fished the armor values out of the game guide, still not sure how to build the perfect weapon.
Edited by Shelendil#1520 on 11/30/2012 9:19 AM PST
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What Shelendil said.

Max combo rolls on armour slots (except ammy) is 100primary+100base
Gloves and Helm can roll 170-200 int.
Chest and Pants can roll 170-200 vit

Also those gloves can have 80AR
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