Diablo® III

A Unique Build for DH 500-600K Crits with EA!

Hello fellow Nephalem, I am Jace Altair from the EU Server and playing currently a Demon Hunter as my Main.

I didn't want to showcase this Build/Gear setup until I have acquired a Manticore with atleast 1250+ Damage and a DML with 10%+ Elemental Arrow damage because I had no doubt I can reach upto One Million Crit if I had that setup, but alas some "Mr. Talented and All Knowledgeable Demon Hunter"(I will not name who *chuckles*) convinced me to share it.

Now my Demon Hunter is this Sexy Lady;
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/JaceAltair-2678/hero/10755643

And I'm currently sporting some 1H Xbows with AvgDmg of 389-892 +Some Additional AvgDmg Jewelries, can't afford ones with CD+AvgDmg atm, 3100 Dex, 450% CD.

The build I'm using is this;
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/demon-hunter#aigdVh!cTe!aZYccZ

Now notice the passive Sharp Shooter because it plays a big role on this build.

One thing you've got to remember is that your Actual Damage Per Critical Hit are increased through Average Damage, Dexterity, Critical Hit Damage and Damage Multiplier Skills and Gear not by Attack Speed and Critical Hit Chance.

Now here's the fun part, this build uses Cull The Weak +15% Damage to Slowed Enemies, Frost Arrow 170% Damage which is the highest damage Rune for Elemental Arrow. . .

AND

Stone of Jordan;
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/item/stone-of-jordan

The Funnies Part is!!!

Frostburn Gauntlets;
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/item/frostburn-gauntlets

Yes that's right! One of the most hated Legendary item is one of the Gear needed for this particular build xD

Currently I am using a +6%Damage 28%Damage to Elites +7%Damage to Elemental Arrow and a Frostburn with +6%Damage and +30% Cold Damage it's quite cheap because unlike me people think it's useless.

I've tested this a lot of times, with all the Elemental Arrow Runes, and this Build is the one that boasts the fastest and highest damage output when you want to burst down Elites Fast, even with 45%CC on my DH and using other Runes, Frost Arrow still outperforms them.

I've also already determined that a Glove with 250Dexterity and +50%Critical Hit Damage will still do less damage than the Frostburn Gauntlet.

PROS and CONS;

Pros;
Permanent Slow, with Cold Attack. You will surely be able to kite even those Fast Copperfang Lurkers, Burrowers or Hulking Phasebeasts.
+7 Pickup Radius, +5-6K Health Globe Bonus and 250+Armor Well you got to love those bonuses it's the only thing it has LOL!

Cons;
No IAS, no CritChance, no RA or Vit. . .

And Here's a Video of Me in Action in MP5, I'm on 15-25FPS when recording, Slow PC so pardon if it's a little Laggy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4CZIsNtsS4&feature=youtu.be

Study the play style when using this Build with Sharp Shooter especially on higher MP Levels, you have to KITE and you will Kite, especially if you haven't got that great gear yet, and as seen in this video, there are 2-4 seconds where I need to reposition myself and fire so the Frost Arrow can hit the most number of monsters, or I need to get away from Mortar or Frozen (There wasn't any wallers though that's when you will find Sharp Shooter to have the most use), that's where Sharp Shooter shows it's value, those 2-4 seconds will give you 6-12% additional CC that you need. Also since my CC goes down to around 34% When I'm using SOJ and Frosburn there are times when I fire Hungering Arrow with Puncturing Rune, and as soon as my CC goes high enough those arrows that keeps on coming back because of the 50% Chance will Crit all at the same time, and that's the reason I'm using Hungering Arrow.

Here are other example Videos on how fast you can burst down Elites in MP3.

MP3;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6mEnntLY7I&feature=g-crec-u

MP3 Elites in 5-10Seconds;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KF1kWOfvuI&feature=g-crec-u
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sRqECU-EQU&feature=g-crec-u


And that's the reason for Sharp Shooter, because the lost of CC from using a Stone of Jordan and Frostburn Gauntlets gives it the Vital Role of providing the Additional CC you need.

Note that this build is good for doing huge amounts of Damage to Elites, that's why on MP1-5 they die very fast. But is not for eradicating large mobs, that's why I am using Trail of Cinders for those, and with just 600LOH on 1 of my Bow the TOC gives me a huge amount of HP back and I don't even have to use Shadow Power just TOC on a large group of monsters if you're low on HP and stand back a little and you've got full HP.

Now how can I Crit upto 500-600K easy? Damage Multiplier Gear, that's what most important. You don't need that much IAS if you're doing so little damage, you'll just need a huge amount of damage burst and Elites will fall down in seconds.

So how does this work? 170% Damage of Frost Arrow, give that another +30% Damage from Frostburn Gauntlet and it goes up to 221% Damage, 30% of 170 is 51%. It's not 170%+30% = 200%, No that's not the way it is multiplied just to clarify things up. Now 221% Damage +30% more damage from Stone of Jordan considering you got one, add another 66% damage to that now you've got 287% Damage, then Cull The Weak +15% Damage, then +6% Damage from Frostburn, then +6% Damage from SOJ, and another +12%Damage from SOJ Elemantal Arrow you've got a total of 413% Damage! (And this can still be multiplied even more).

I don't have the best SOJ only a 28% and 7%EA one, although since I'm using Danettas 1HXBows I get an extra 3% Damage to elites making my total to 31% But with a much better weapon such as a Manticore+DML that has the same amount of Dex combined as my Bows and an Average Damage going upto 1250+ I have no doubt in my mind that 1 Million Critical Hit per strike is attainable, because the highest Crit I've done to an Elite so far is 890 thousand.

And again just to clarify things, a 250Dex Glove with 50%CD still does less damage than the Frostburn Gauntlet, tried and tested.

Correct me if my math is wrong, but I figured that's how the Damage Multiplier works, since it's close to my Barb's HOTA Smash Rune, which does 406% Damage, and my DH's Frost Arrow attacks are almost at the same damage output as my Barbs HOTA.

Now for people who've got a lot of Gold, a 2Soc Manticore with +90%CD and 190+Dex with damage going upto 1250-1300, A DML with 250-300+Dex +10-14%Elemental Arrow give it a try, and see how much damage you can do to an Elite, I guarantee you the lowest Frost Arrow damage you will deal to elites considering you've got a Manticore with 800-1300 Average Damage will be 500K.

Well that's all, and to my fellow Demon Hunters, go on and try it out you might like it, it's different, it's fun and it's very effective not to mention Frostburn is so Cheap LOL =)

P.S.
I know this has been mentioned before and not a lot of people knows this build, this is also a more detailed guide about this particular Build Setup and is proof that the build works well, and I've been using this Build since 1.0.3.


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JaceAltair EU Server
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/JaceAltair-2678/

DH Stun Build Trolling Elites and Ubers on MP10
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7178978741#1

A Unique Build for DH 500-600K Crits with EA!
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7383798562
Edited by JaceAltair#2678 on 12/10/2012 6:33 PM PST
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honestly, all this shows is that sharpshooter is NOT a good replacement for true cc. have you even watched your video? it takes forever to kill an elite on mp5, you have to kite like crazy and you get 4-5 white shots of 20-30k between each crit.
I guess as a "budget build" it might be ok. otherwise I dont understand why you wouldnt just use spike trap to get those big crits and melt elites without having to kite like crazy

just my 2 cents
o/
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honestly, all this shows is that sharpshooter is NOT a good replacement for true cc. have you even watched your video? it takes forever to kill an elite on mp5, you have to kite like crazy and you get 4-5 white shots of 20-30k between each crit.
I guess as a "budget build" it might be ok. otherwise I dont understand why you wouldnt just use spike trap to get those big crits and melt elites without having to kite like crazy

just my 2 cents
o/


Why, is the CC you get from SS fake CC? LOL :NO: they're still Chance to Crit and Sharp Shooter is needed here incase you didn't read all of what's written because you're using Frostburn+SOJ which are items that have no CC.

Yes it's true it's a budget, only because of Frostburn, because most people don't consider using it, but good SOJ's with high Damage to Elites and Elemental Arrow are around 20-50M.

One other thing is for Spike Trap elites need to be standing still, and not a lot of Elites are going to just stand there, there are different monsters that won't get hit by Spike Traps making it not so good as a Frost Arrow that can hit them even if they are moving very fast, also you're still going to kite and move away from Frozen, Lasers, Mortar etc. and position yourself to fire when Walls are placed.

And lastly with a 800-1300Damage Manticore+DML you can replace Archery with Steady Aim giving you an additional 20% more damage Multiplied and another 10-14% Damage from Elemental Arrow from DML, you'll get a grand total of 564% Damage on your First Shot alone, giving you atleast 500K minimum damage and I've no doubt can reach 1Million+ damage, just think about that =)

P.S.
And yes I've watched my own Video, but there's no option to Zoom out so you can clearly see how much the Frost Arrow is still doing Critical Hits, I should have made a better video where you can clearly see how often Frost Arrow will Crit once it Splits up, yes it Crits a Lot when it Splits up from the first target. And I've been using this build for so long and as I've said above, already tested all the other Runes of Elemental Arrow, and this build is still the best.

And if you think with my measly 1HXbows killing an Elite in less than 5-10 Seconds in MP3 and 15-30Seconds in MP5 is forever well please show me a better build that can take down Elites just as fast =)

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JaceAltair EU Server
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/JaceAltair-2678/

DH Stun Build Trolling Elites and Ubers on MP10
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7178978741#1

A Unique Build for DH 500-600K Crits with EA!
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7383798562
Edited by JaceAltair#2678 on 12/10/2012 8:29 PM PST
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It's not really good,but I like your build your idea.
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12/10/2012 08:43 PMPosted by BenJ
It's not really good,but I like your build your idea.


You should really try it out first my friend so you can compare the damage output yourself, because really, even your non-crit attacks also deal a lot of damage.

I've several Demon Hunter friends which I shared this build with and all of them before used different builds and after trying and testing this build out sticked to it because they saw for themselves how much more damage they were dealing =)

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JaceAltair EU Server
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/JaceAltair-2678/

A Unique Build for DH 500-600K Crits with EA!
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7383798562

DH Stun Build Trolling Elites and Ubers on MP10
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7178978741#1
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SS is worthless after 45% base crit, enough said.
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Why, is the CC you get from SS fake CC? LOL :NO: they're still Chance to Crit and Sharp Shooter is needed here incase you didn't read all of what's written because you're using Frostburn+SOJ which are items that have no CC.


after your first shots, your cc drops down to base+ 3% (you're constantly shooting, especially with 1handers), so it never gets high unless you're running away to let the cc recharge.

as for the time to kill an elite, just for fun I changed my MP from 1 to 5, using my speedrun build in my profile, (the only thing I changed was cluster to a hatred generator- kept my same speedrun gear and all other skills, under 200k dps).
I timed the first elite groups by calculating the number of gloom cycles (just stood there and spammed spike/ball/etc). on the first group, hulkbeasts, they died during the 4th cycle, so around 20seconds.
the two next groups died during the third cycle, so under 15 seconds.

I can only imagine how fast they'd die with my ubers gear/build (SOJ etc).

so other than how fun this cold build might be, I'm not sure where it's supposed to stand exactly. mp2-mp5 maybe? for mp0-1 speedruns multishot/ball is definitely faster, and in higher mp for key farming/ubers a big damage hatred spender like spike/cluster makes more sense

ymmv
o/
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Why, is the CC you get from SS fake CC? LOL :NO: they're still Chance to Crit and Sharp Shooter is needed here incase you didn't read all of what's written because you're using Frostburn+SOJ which are items that have no CC.


after your first shots, your cc drops down to base+ 3% (you're constantly shooting, especially with 1handers), so it never gets high unless you're running away to let the cc recharge.

as for the time to kill an elite, just for fun I changed my MP from 1 to 5, using my speedrun build in my profile, (the only thing I changed was cluster to a hatred generator- kept my same speedrun gear and all other skills, under 200k dps).
I timed the first elite groups by calculating the number of gloom cycles (just stood there and spammed spike/ball/etc). on the first group, hulkbeasts, they died during the 4th cycle, so around 20seconds.
the two next groups died during the third cycle, so under 15 seconds.

I can only imagine how fast they'd die with my ubers gear/build (SOJ etc).

so other than how fun this cold build might be, I'm not sure where it's supposed to stand exactly. mp2-mp5 maybe? for mp0-1 speedruns multishot/ball is definitely faster, and in higher mp for key farming/ubers a big damage hatred spender like spike/cluster makes more sense

ymmv
o/


I'll tell you what's faster at mp0-1, strafe. 7 minute Alkeizer runs, enough said.
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I timed the first elite groups by calculating the number of gloom cycles (just stood there and spammed spike/ball/etc). on the first group, hulkbeasts, they died during the 4th cycle, so around 20seconds.
the two next groups died during the third cycle, so under 15 seconds.


I'd like see a video of you doing what you do my friend, and it would be much more appreciated, than just saying it, so we can properly compare our results.

So anyway as you said, you're killing at almost the same speed or faster than I am, with my 389-892 Damage 1HXBow. . .

If you would care to read the second paragraph of my Post, "IF" I was using a Manticore with 800-1300 Damage I can say my minimum Crit would be 500K instead of 200K+ and Maximum Crits would go upto 1M+ Crits, hence making me kill at a faster rate with this Forstburn Build.

Just think about it =)

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JaceAltair EU Server
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/JaceAltair-2678/

A Unique Build for DH 500-600K Crits with EA!
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7383798562

DH Stun Build Trolling Elites and Ubers on MP10
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7178978741#1
Edited by JaceAltair#2678 on 12/10/2012 11:04 PM PST
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question is, what would you prefer, shooting once every 2~3 seconds for a big crit number or hitting 2 attacks persecond during those 3 seconds critting 3 of them and actually dealing good dmg. your build is nice for seeing high numbers or if you're on a budget but im not seeing it being an actual build for speed farming or for high mp lvls.

also as some 1 already noted, if your looking for those big 700~800k crits just go cluster arrow/spike trap. WAY better dmg and you dont need to handicap yourself to low CC/aspd/allres.
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So anyway as you said, you're killing at almost the same speed or faster than I am, with my 389-892 Damage 1HXBow. . .


I put on my dps gear/build and I can kill an MP5 elite in 10 secs or less (2 gloom cycles) (I'd make a video if I knew how lol),
obviously it wont always be that fast (shielding, extra health, etc).

point is spike trap can crit for 1.3m. why gimp your gear/passives/etc so that frost arrow can crit for 600k once every 3-4 shots? the big hatred spenders are there for a reason!

if you're having fun with it, that's cool, just don't sell it like the end-all build

o/
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I put on my dps gear/build and I can kill an MP5 elite in 10 secs or less (2 gloom cycles) (I'd make a video if I knew how lol),
obviously it wont always be that fast (shielding, extra health, etc).


Download Bandicam it's quite easy,

http://www.bandicam.com/

When you do, I'd love to see your Demon Hunter in action.

12/11/2012 12:32 AMPosted by Veritech
point is spike trap can crit for 1.3m. why gimp your gear/passives/etc so that frost arrow can crit for 600k once every 3-4 shots? the big hatred spenders are there for a reason!


But here there is a difference, Spike Trap is laid on the ground and will not always hit a particular Elite, like Bloodclan Occultists or Succubi that always tries to run away, when a Frost Arrow can hit them directly, and even with 40-50% CC a Spike Trap will not always Crit let's face it. If you're talking about Big Hatred Spenders like Cluster Arrow well I've already tested that build against this and this still comes up on top in terms of usability in actual combat and rivals the Damage output aswell.

12/11/2012 12:32 AMPosted by Veritech
just don't sell it like the end-all build


Dude I never said this is the End-All build LOL! Where can you find me say that? There are a lot of Builds depending on Monster Power and situations/scenarios if you're Farming/Uber or just Doing Speed Runs. I'm just sharing this build for others to see, because not a lot of people knows of this, and yes it is fun, and it boasts a huge amount of damage.

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JaceAltair EU Server
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/JaceAltair-2678/

A Unique Build for DH 500-600K Crits with EA!
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7383798562

DH Stun Build Trolling Elites and Ubers on MP10
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7178978741#1
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This build is only suited for lower geared players in lower mp levels.
Edited by Monsta#1979 on 12/11/2012 11:43 AM PST
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All these high damage builds is making me wanna quit lol! I can't seem to put the hours in constantly to build these high DPS characters. I guess in short I'm more interested in the game itself instead of, who has the highest damage character. Yes I do understand that Diablo 3 will soon have a PVP mode.
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Oh lawds, l just tried switching to just the frostburns.. 700k crit normally -> 880k with 28% gloves.

Edit:

Lawl, found a pair of IK gloves while screwing around with this.
Edited by MOMOZ#1426 on 12/16/2012 6:50 AM PST
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12/16/2012 06:40 AMPosted by MOMOZ
Oh lawds, l just tried switching to just the frostburns.. 700k crit normally -> 880k with 28% gloves.


I know right?

You've got a pretty sick Manticore dude, you should try it out with a 30% Frostburn they're quite cheap that 2% makes a whole lot of a difference, and with an SOJ and DML with Elemental Arrow Damage.

I'm saving up to buy a 2 Soc atleast 80% CHD Manticore with 850-1250 or 1300 Damage and planning to raise my Crit more with Natalya Boots and Ring, so I can have around 40%CC while using Frostburn+SOJ.
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well i think it's a nice build for me, at least. :) imma try this later.
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I don't know - it seems okay if done correctly, but it really happens to rely on your play style imho. I find that when you properly place spike traps you can pretty much nail anyone you like. Also, bear in mind you can open up with spike traps outside of the monster's normal "aggro" range.
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can someone look at my gear

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Skywalker-1766/hero/3634425

idk what is wrong, but i cant reach up higher than 190k of damage.. sharpshooter is out of question.
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can someone look at my gear

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Skywalker-1766/hero/3634425

idk what is wrong, but i cant reach up higher than 190k of damage.. sharpshooter is out of question.


Your bracers could use some crit chance, and you should think about getting an innas chest to get the 130 dex bonus with your pants as a 2 set. Or get a nats embrace and nats reflection ring for another 7% cc.

Also take a look at andrails visage as a helm replacement, rolls high dex, atk sod, and crit chance.
You will give up the all rez on your memo, but will gain good damage from the cc.
Much cheaper than the crit chance mempos, but you give up life and rez.

Try your luck at crafting with the new dex plans; amulet, shoulders, bracers, and gloves.

Dont overlook steady aim passive as a good way to get 20% extra damage. Cheers!
Edited by BraveSirRobn#1357 on 6/5/2013 1:38 PM PDT
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