Diablo® III

Path of Exile wins first place!

For upcoming indie game of the year!

http://www.indiedb.com/features/ioty-players-choice-upcoming-2012

Well deserved!
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Grats to PoE.

Though I have to wonder just how prestigious (for lack of a better word) winning is. Is indiedb.com an important/big site for indie games? I mean, they seem to be missing some indie games such as Don't Starve (Klei Entertainment's most recent work) and Klei should be well known for Shank (also not listed) and Mark of the Ninja (which is listed).
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12/25/2012 12:31 PMPosted by Iconoklast
If I wanted to play Diablo 2 ... I'd play Diablo 2. It's better than PoE so why bother with PoE. Yes PoE is a good game but when you take so many things from an already successful game of course it's going to be good, compared to Diablo 2 though it's mediocre. That leads to my original point, why play a mediocre clone when I can just play the real thing and have more fun.


So why do you sound like someone who has never really played POE? Why do you assume that D2 is better. I can give you a long list of improvements POE has over D2. Not the least of which is the customization is faaarrrrr better. Go watch the build of the week videos on youtube. You should be able to tell right away that the number of fun, viable, powerful builds is huge. Why is it that the most rabid POE fans were also huge fans of Diablo 2?
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12/25/2012 12:40 PMPosted by Iconoklast
Also, the skill tree doesn't offer as much choice as one might think and all of the "classes" have the same skills.


Nice assumption from someone who probably hasn't really played the game. Whats the classes having access to the same skills mean? Well it means that theres even more diversity in the game. However the classes still matter a lot because of their position on the massive passive skill tree. Its all geared towards the game having a lot of diversity.
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essentially you're given a few choices at a time with most of those being stat increases like +5 dexterity


Are you sure you are really in the beta? On the whole tree there is not a single passive that gives you +5 dex.

Looks to me you don´t know Path of Exile, and don´t know what you are talking about!
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I never said there are no +10 to str, int, dexstats. But on the tree is not one that gives you +5 and if you really played it i wonder how you even think about +5 ?!

http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgMB

The + to the 3 basicstats are only on the so called "highways" of the tree, where you add up to another part where you then mostly take other passiv nodes. I would say in the end of the most builds when you dont travel to far from your class starting point you will only have 15-20% of your points in the basicstats.

So i cannot understand why you mean you have to pick this nodes most of the time !

This is simply not true, period.
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12/25/2012 02:35 PMPosted by Iconoklast
It's not a bad game, it's good but like I said it's a less fun version of Diablo 2. Of course it's good, how could it not be, the game design was lifted from a game that's way better.


Every game is a copy of the first one that defined the genre. And PoE brings much new selfcreated ideas compared to D2 that your comparison is not really thought through.
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12/25/2012 03:09 PMPosted by Iconoklast
with some other games the stat distribution and skill tree are separate so you can assign points wherever you want right from the start


So here you went wrong if you know that this is no normal skill tree, its the "passive" skill tree.
Your active skills are seperated from the tree they are items and you socket them in your gear, so this tree is for the stat distribution, and you have a lot to choose from instead of simply str, int, dex.
And there are not so many + to basicstats as you mean, just look between the highways ;)

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In Torchlight 2 for example you are given 5 stat points each level to assign as you wish and 1 skill point to put into any ability you wish.


So this is in the core a real clone of the Diablo 2 mechanics...
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12/25/2012 03:14 PMPosted by Iconoklast
Yes but they've taken much more from Diablo 2 than normal, even going as far as calling to the "spiritual successor to Diablo 2".


I have no problem with that, because for me the statement is true!
It´s definitely the better successor than Diablo 3
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12/25/2012 03:59 PMPosted by Iconoklast


So here you went wrong if you know that this is no normal skill tree, its the "passive" skill tree.
Your active skills are seperated from the tree they are items and you socket them in your gear, so this tree is for the stat distribution, and you have a lot to choose from instead of simply str, int, dex.
And there are not so many + to basicstats as you mean, just look between the highways ;)

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So this is in the core a real clone of the Diablo 2 mechanics...


Yes I know that skills are gems that any class can use, I don't like that, I think that classes should have exclusive abilities. TL2 is different than D2 in so many ways that it makes it okay to copy mechanics.


This is silly. POE is a spiritual successor to D2. They kept the core dieas but changed a ton. Calling it a copy is dumb because its far too different to be a copy. I'm have a hard time thinking of one thing that they haven't changed or upgraded from D2.
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