Diablo® III

Why do people buy gold/gear?

Another person missing the point - This isn't work! It's a game! The vast majority of people who buy gold/gear with money have done their work for their wealth, and are using some of it to pay for their happiness. Stop trying to equate this to their real lives!


I'm not missing the point, the game is an extreme microcosm of real life for some. A fair number of the people buying gear are probably using their mommy's cc (not crit chance).

That being said, I firmly believe the RMAH is a scapegoat for the real culprit in the game, gold and the GAH. Gold needs to be worthless because it's guaranteed to drop. The guarantee of gold from play time guarantees gold farmers, which guarantee flooding the economy with gold in addition to the rare find.

The drops might otherwise be rare enough to make botting unpopular, but the gold guarantees profits.

People can't seem to understand that and every time I post about it, I get hounded by trolls riding trolls wearing troll shirts.
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Moreover I believe the RMAH is a necessary and controllable evil, while gold is neither.

Gold should be for:

1) Repairs
2) Potions
3) TP and ID scrolls (oh wait)
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Wow, look at all these opinions...
I dont get it either OP...

If they dont want to play d3, why do they play d3?

Its pretty insane... Like paying another guy to beat your NES game.
"Oh, I'm too busy on the job, here's 10 bucks, you do it, and get me a nice
snapshot of the end-screen"
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Let's do a cost review of this situation.

I spent $70 on my Monk's gear. I think he's pretty well geared (On euro server)

I make approx $30 an hour. Now I work about 54 hrs a week so that's an income of approx $1,600 a week. So for every hour of my time is worth about $9.5. However I like to sleep 7 hrs a day. So every waking hour is worth about $13.50 to me.

So that's established now let's find out how much free time I have.

I work in an office for 54 hrs a week, and sleep another 49 hrs a week. That leaves 65 hrs a week for freedom/enjoyment. Now I don't play 65 hrs of video games a week I of course have to do things like laundry, cook, help out the misses. I also enjoy power lifting and partying with friends. This all cuts into my free time.

So let's suppose out of 65 hrs a week of free time I can dedicate 12 hrs to gaming (I actively play BF3, CS:GO, and a few other RTS) . And 9 hours of that is for Diablo.

So based upon my friend who plays a ton and has the same kind of gear as me he has put in 850 hours of game play (compared to me 250~) 850 hrs would take me 94 weeks which is damn near 2 years. In addition in terms of value of my time it'd cost me $11,475. However with my pulling out my credit card and paying for the easy way (keep in mind my monk isn't an uber monk either) it cost me $70 plus $3,375 in time to a total cost of $3,445. Saving me a massive $8,000! Also it didn't take 2 years.
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It's what rocks his boat and he can afford it so it should not matter. Others like to snipe and flip items. Others like to solo farm with MF gear. It does not matter because that is what they like to do. I like to gear up my companions with DPS gear as opposed to the popular MF gear. I know it's not efficient/useless, but I like it that way and I'm having fun. If somebody tells me otherwise then eff you.
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Let's do a cost review of this situation.

I spent $70 on my Monk's gear. I think he's pretty well geared (On euro server)

I make approx $30 an hour. Now I work about 54 hrs a week so that's an income of approx $1,600 a week. So for every hour of my time is worth about $9.5. However I like to sleep 7 hrs a day. So every waking hour is worth about $13.50 to me.

So that's established now let's find out how much free time I have.

I work in an office for 54 hrs a week, and sleep another 49 hrs a week. That leaves 65 hrs a week for freedom/enjoyment. Now I don't play 65 hrs of video games a week I of course have to do things like laundry, cook, help out the misses. I also enjoy power lifting and partying with friends. This all cuts into my free time.

So let's suppose out of 65 hrs a week of free time I can dedicate 12 hrs to gaming (I actively play BF3, CS:GO, and a few other RTS) . And 9 hours of that is for Diablo.

So based upon my friend who plays a ton and has the same kind of gear as me he has put in 850 hours of game play (compared to me 250~) 850 hrs would take me 94 weeks which is damn near 2 years. In addition in terms of value of my time it'd cost me $11,475. However with my pulling out my credit card and paying for the easy way (keep in mind my monk isn't an uber monk either) it cost me $70 plus $3,375 in time to a total cost of $3,445. Saving me a massive $8,000! Also it didn't take 2 years.


And this one. +1
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Gold is currency for real money.
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01/20/2013 07:47 PMPosted by Nik00117
However with my pulling out my credit card and paying for the easy way (keep in mind my monk isn't an uber monk either) it cost me $70 plus $3,375 in time to a total cost of $3,445. Saving me a massive $8,000! Also it didn't take 2 years.


01/20/2013 08:26 PMPosted by KillRyan
And this one. +1


and people wonder why D1/D2 fans have their heads in their hands ... look what the game has become... a giant skilless, souless, mindless, grinding, time/ money sink...
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01/18/2013 09:47 AMPosted by Fizzmopper
Why grind for hundreds of hours when an hour of overtime can easily make up that time?


Why buy all your gear in 5 minutes to then spend hundreds of hours farming for drops you then can't use?


Some people prefer to buy gear so they can.. *GASP* have FUN!

I personally do not buy gold, however can understand people who do.

Most people who have "real" jobs do not have the time to grind grind grind all day.
Therefore they buy good items or gold so that they can enjoy playing.

Side Note:
Remember that not everyone enjoys the same things. And that one of the core concepts of the Diablo series is being able to go out and "DEVASTATE HOARDS OF DEMONS"!
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and people wonder why D1/D2 fans have their heads in their hands ... look what the game has become... a giant skilless, souless, mindless, grinding, time/ money sink...


No.. its just that these D1/D2 fans grew up and now understand how the world works..
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01/20/2013 09:03 PMPosted by Cool
Therefore they buy good items or gold so that they can enjoy playing.


you never required godly gear in D1 or D2 to enjoy it ..the levelling was the fun part... and creating a charaacter you could test against others if you wanted..

01/20/2013 09:05 PMPosted by Cool
No.. its just that these D1/D2 fans grew up and now understand how the world works..


ahhhh.. i see.. now that i am also grown up i understand i should now use my salary to buy completion / end game material - as the actual game is no longer designed to be fun - but to be annoying as possible to encourage people to pay to skip over it..
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what i dont get.. is many pro AH people are very happy that others purchase items for end game content, but it is sacrilege that players hacked / duped the same items for end game content ..

(just FYI, i dont do either - play games for fun , may trade with friends items we have both found but dont need )

so now its some kind of a moral standpoint that if you skip to endgame content through purhcasing off someone who played it out, its not the same as skipping to endgame content with a hack ...

there will always be those who want to skip to the end, cheat codes and game hacks have been around since games existed - but to commercialise this aspect of gaming and legitimise it with in game mechanics actually cheapens the point of finishing the game WITHOUT hacks or cash.. .. troubling...
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Also I'd love to use the RMAH however because I decided to play on Euro server I don't have access to the RMAH so I have to buy gold. (I own US version)
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01/18/2013 09:47 AMPosted by Fizzmopper
Why buy all your gear in 5 minutes to then spend hundreds of hours farming for drops you then can't use?


It's way more fun to farm fast than to farm slow and still get nothing.
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A few weeks back I was helping some guy gear up his new lvl 60 barb. He had just bought 100m in gold and wanted to have a 100k+ dps WW and hellfire ring farming barb.

I helped him out, but in the process I realized that I couldn't wrap my head around why someone would want to pay real money to gear out their character from blues to legs right off the bat? Unless he wanted to make real money by farming gear to sell (which I don't think was his goal since he mentioned HF rings), where is the fun in having a fully geared character right when you start inferno?

D3 has no competition or endgame which requires having a fully geared character to start. Once you can efficiently farm inferno that's all there is to do! So why do people pay real money to gear up in 10 minutes skipping what I consider the entire point of the game (and most fun aspect of it as well)?

Is it just a reflection on the instant gratification society we are living in that people would rather pay $30 to have their character look powerful on a webpage than spend the time getting their gear on their own, or am I missing something?

Cause you cant find a gear for yourself in this game... cause of Jay's and his team loot system... end of topic.
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Because some people are richer than you.
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you never required godly gear in D1 or D2 to enjoy it ..the levelling was the fun part... and creating a character you could test against others if you wanted..


I personally disagree. I usually did not have much fun in Diablo 2 until after I got past around lvl 85 and could use all my gear. (I have lvled over 300 characters in Diablo 2..)

I had the most fun creating builds for my lvl 85+ character, and then testing it in PVP.
(My Bias is that I am a PvPer.)

However. I agree with you if we are speaking about Diablo 1.
It felt fun to level in Diablo 1, since there wasn't much of a PVP aspect in Diablo 1, that didn't involve hacks of some sort.

01/20/2013 09:11 PMPosted by MGH
ahhhh.. i see.. now that i am also grown up i understand i should now use my salary to buy completion / end game material - as the actual game is no longer designed to be fun - but to be annoying as possible to encourage people to pay to skip over it..


I sounded a bit blunt with this statement. What I had meant was that it is more efficient to work for a couple hours, use that money to gear up, and then start having fun.

I will concede that this can be seen as a flaw in the game. Since many players I have spoken with have fun with their first character from levels 1-30ish and then tend to get bored with the game after. (Generally they get bored upon completion of normal.)
Edited by Cool#1157 on 1/21/2013 12:49 AM PST
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