Diablo® III

Neoshinji

Good god... thats crazy.

#21

1/23/2013

Draba #2568

Draba

Man I've got to get my hands on some rubies to test.
I thought it's only 150-150 with some weapons getting closer to 150-300, apparently it's
150-300 with things like manti getting close to 150-450.

#22

1/23/2013

Killua #1993

Killua

If anyone has an extra plan on PTR, i can test it out on a bow with elemental dmg and provide my findings

#23

1/23/2013

Glitz

Glitz

I don't think anyone will be giving the plans away. They are hard to find for sale and are very expensive.

But I also would love to test them on my manticore

Edited by gLiTz#1220 on 1/23/2013 8:13 AM PST

#24

1/23/2013

Killua #1993

Killua

I don't think anyone will be giving the plans away. They are hard to find for sale and are very expensive.

But I also would love to test them on my manticore

My apologies, didn't mean to sound like a mooch. I haven't been on PTR, so i wasn't aware of the mechanics. (I just thought everything was artificial as it doesn't have an effect on the real game)

Edited by Killua#1993 on 1/23/2013 8:19 AM PST

#25

1/23/2013

AZsnowstorm #1818

AZsnowstorm

Time to start stockpiling rubies before people catch on and the prices spike!

#26

1/23/2013

Ring #1441

Ring

01/22/2013 07:42 PMPosted by Myon
The gems are account bound, and there's a bug on the PTR now where if you socket them into a weapon that weapon becomes account bound as well, so I can't use the gem on your weapon either, for example.

I did this on my PTR acct and it didnt bind my weapon after i un-socket them. I used a Marquis Emerald tho.

#27

1/23/2013

TianZi #1634

TianZi

01/23/2013 08:25 AMPosted by Ring
The gems are account bound, and there's a bug on the PTR now where if you socket them into a weapon that weapon becomes account bound as well, so I can't use the gem on your weapon either, for example.

I did this on my PTR acct and it didnt bind my weapon after i un-socket them. I used a Marquis Emerald tho.

It was fixed during yesterday's PTR update.

#28

1/23/2013

hmk21 #1716

hmk21

Min damage = 150 * 1.49 = 223.5
Max damage = 300 * 1.49 = 447

My Windforce was a 1368.4 (513-1249), and with a Marquise Ruby is now 1888.9 (736-1695).

how did you get 1888.9?

#29

1/23/2013

Radelon #1292

Radelon

Min damage = 150 * 1.49 = 223.5
Max damage = 300 * 1.49 = 447

My Windforce was a 1368.4 (513-1249), and with a Marquise Ruby is now 1888.9 (736-1695).

how did you get 1888.9?

Here goes.

((Base Min + Calculated Ruby Min) + (Base Max + Calculated Ruby Max)) / 2 = Weapon Average DPS. Weapon Average DPS * APS = New Weapon DPS

((512 + 223) + (1248 + 447)) / 2 = 1215.5 dps. 1215.5 * 1.55 = 1884 dps

So sorry, d3up.com shows 1888.9.

#30

1/23/2013

GhostMajor

GhostMajor

So it means that's the end of emerald and the beginning of the rubbise ? If I get this right even on a manticore it's increasing the damage by a lot or am I wrong ?

#31

1/23/2013

Monsta #1979

Monsta

I lose 2.5k dps using a marquise ruby. It really all depends on your gear

#32

1/23/2013

sssd #2577

sssd

Is there someone with a manticore and 2 marquise rubies ? Would really need a screenshot without, with 1 and with 2 gems.

#33

1/23/2013

hmk21 #1716

hmk21

Here goes.

((Base Min + Calculated Ruby Min) + (Base Max + Calculated Ruby Max)) / 2 = Weapon Average DPS. Weapon Average DPS * APS = New Weapon DPS

((512 + 223) + (1248 + 447)) / 2 = 1215.5 dps. 1215.5 * 1.55 = 1884 dps

So sorry, d3up.com shows 1888.9.

gotcha, thanks.

#34

1/23/2013

zoid #1554

zoid

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7708811917

01/23/2013 10:50 AMPosted by sssd
Is there someone with a manticore and 2 marquise rubies ? Would really need a screenshot without, with 1 and with 2 gems.

#35

1/23/2013

sssd #2577

sssd

Thanks my friend, close to perfect on d3rawr now. Crazy weapon, 2 gems are more like 4 1/2 .

#36

1/23/2013

Radelon #1292

Radelon

01/23/2013 11:02 AMPosted by sssd
Thanks my friend, close to perfect on d3rawr now. Crazy weapon, 2 gems are more like 4 1/2 .

Your calculation when it's a Windforce isn't correct. Adding the correct +223 that I should get on Min but only adding +223 to Max, when it should be +447

#37

1/23/2013

BubbaGump #1297

BubbaGump

I believe d3rawr is calculating the new max damage number incorrect comparing their results to what I see in PTR

D3rawr is showing much less DPS than what PTR is actually showing.

I also believe d3up is not right either in simulation mode

When you simulate in d3up it doesn't calculate the weapon DPS. It isn't recalculating the dps of the bow. It is just adding the dmg as an "afterthought" I think. those numbers are way off on d3up's simulator

Edited by BubbaGump#1297 on 1/23/2013 1:50 PM PST

#38

1/23/2013

Radelon #1292

Radelon

I believe d3rawr is calculating the new max damage number incorrect comparing their results to what I see in PTR

D3rawr is showing much less DPS than what PTR is actually showing.

I also believe d3up is not right either in simulation mode

When you simulate in d3up it doesn't calculate the weapon DPS. It isn't recalculating the dps of the bow. It is just adding the dmg as an "afterthought" I think. those numbers are way off on d3up's simulator

I put my calculated numbers in and change the damage range to get the right numbers

#39

1/23/2013

BubbaGump #1297

BubbaGump

01/23/2013 10:21 AMPosted by Monsta
I lose 2.5k dps using a marquise ruby. It really all depends on your gear

@Monsta. I don't believe that is correct you will gain DPS. d3up simulation isn't recalculating things right if you replace a emerald with a dmg gem. It tacks it on the end which is wrong. This is why you see you lose 100 crit but gain 150 min damage and 150max damage. It isn't readjusting the bow dps at all.

d3rawr shows your calamity would go from 1326.23 dps to 1712.51 dps. Based on your gear your overall DPS would go from 261,664.48 to 277,660.69 (overall gain of 15,996.21 dps). However this is actually LESS than on how PTR is showing the damage

Calculating how PTR is showing it you would go from 1326.23 dps to 1905.65 on your weapon. Your overall dps would go from 261,664.48 to 307,594.37 (overall gain of 45,929.89 dps)

You shouldn't lose DPS you should be gaining especially with your build.

Edited by BubbaGump#1297 on 1/23/2013 2:12 PM PST

#40

1/23/2013