Diablo® III

interesting testing with ghom

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so i've been bugging that lard of tub around with different skills (force weapon/venom/diamond shard) at mp 8 and regardless of diamond shard, as long as i go venom, he dies the same as when i use diamond shard.

i'm not good with math so cannot provide any 'numeric stats' but judging from my stop watch

mp8 with diamond shard/venom = 45s
mp8 with crystal shell/venom = 45s
mp8 with diamond shard/force weapon = 1.3m
mp8 with crystal shell/force weapon = 1.3m

aspd 2.73/50cc 207k dps with fw; 199k dps with venom; sns
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kinda confused.

so:
mp8 with diamond shard/venom = 45s
mp8 with crystal shell/venom = 45s

-only variable here is which version of diamond skin you're using. you get the same kill time, and assuming you did this in triplicate or more and that the only variable truly was diamond skin, then the proper conclusion here is that diamond shards adds no eDPS. But we know from other tests that shards DOES add eDPS, so something is not right here
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i know alesso. that's the weird thing and i'm still doing it and still getting the same time.

i'm using bone chill and aph's sns build which is cold blooded/glass cannon
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Curiously, how many times did you repeat your test?
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6 times so far.
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Fascinating, so it's quite repeatable. Do you have a time with just Diamond Shards and a generic Magic Weapon rune (non-Force Weapon)?
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not as of yet. will try it now
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test 1 diamond shard with no rune mw = 199k dps; 1 min
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test 2 diamond shard with no rune mw = 199k dps 45 sec
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So far that's quite interesting! It's definitely an increase in kill time with Venom. Just to rule out something weird with Diamond Shards, you might try a test with your generic magic weapon rune and Crystal Shell (no Shards or Venom). That should give you a baseline DPS to compare Venom and Shards against. :)
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will do
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test 1 crystal shell with no rune mw = 199k dps 45 sec
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test 2 crystal shell with no rune mw = 199k dps 45 sec

im beginning to wonder about latency...could it be that? i'm running a consistent 190-200 ms
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But isn't your latency at least the same each time you run a build? Or is it possible that latency differentially affects different setups

The plot thickens
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Well so far all of your trials are largely the same. That's why I asked you to do the other trials to rule out that it was your choice of runes that mattered. It's not immediately obvious to me what's the matter. Your latency is a tad high relatively speaking and you're running at a 6.53x multiplier (again a tad low). One possibility is that the server is missing your commands, but I still find myself in disbelief that there is no difference whatsoever. You should see a damage increase with Diamond Shards and Venom.

I noticed that you rounded to either 45s and 1min. Could this be due to rounding errors? Do you have the raw times?
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it is alesso. it never goes beyond 200 nor does it fall below 190. i'm suspecting ghom's gas spam latency issue. could be that.

either ways, he dies \O_O/
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the 45s and 1m is like this on my stopwatch

45.2
45.1
45.4

with 1m it's like

1.2
1.1
1.3

latency is high because i'm in asia and i don't think getting a faster net would help it.
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That sucks. If someone doesn't replicate your results before Saturday, I'll try to give this a go myself. Thanks for taking the time to do the tests!
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sure tekk. it started out as a random thing and wasn't really a time test. take it as a 'want to see how i fair' kind of thing and that's really it.

again, i will say latency is a big issue here. i just saw my latency spiked to 219 with ghom spamming his farts.

i'm not sure whether getting a faster connection would help but i don't think my net is bad
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hearsay:
diamond shards only triggers damage when it expires/destroyed. and not when it is recast.

so if your mitigation is so good that diamond shard isn't destroyed by ghom's gas before it is recast, then you see no benefit from shards.

I have not tested this.
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