Diablo® III

Blue finally responds to Multiboxing in D3

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/5825582768?page=2

can someone post the analogy, it was rmvd :(
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Were you surprised by this?

Multiboxing from a software perspective is no more elaborate or automated than multiboxing from a hardware perspective.

You get macros that do more automation in your hardware today than what the popular multiboxing software does. Think about that. I'm frankly tired of seeing players who probably use a hardware macro to key repeat complaining about someone playing 4 accounts at once. Technically, you are the one breaking the rules not him.
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I love blizzard fo saying no 3rd pary programs are allowed.....

Oh other than ISOboxer or whatever the hell.

People got banned for using mouse macros, not me i dont need that stupid !@#$. Im not a lazy CM wiz(primary users of the macros)

Loot alert in no way give you 4x the drops but that isnt legal. Think about it.
Edited by Doherty#1755 on 1/25/2013 7:45 PM PST
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Please review your stance on multiboxing.

Many years ago blizzard has agreed to allow multiboxing. However, Multiboxing software has evolved over the years and any things have changed. When players discover new loop-holes, the rules deserve to be adjusted.

Multiboxers with the software control 4 characters in perfect synchronization and never have to switch to their other characters when fighting or looting.
Multiboxers use software that makes multiboxing extremely easy and much more efficient. The multibox software provides a significant advantage over players who don't use it.
The multibox software required to multibox efficiently has a monthly fee.
Multiboxers with this software doesn't slow down the killing or the looting process when done right and rewards the significant advantage of 400% the legendarys and gold.
No other online game gives you 4 times as much loot for running 4 times as many accounts. In WoW if you have 4 characters kill 1 monster, you get 1 monster's loot. In diablo 3, if you have 4 characters kill 1 monster, you get 4 monster's worth of loot.
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How can you allow players to make decisions for 1 account and allow a program to move the other 3 characters and attack for them? The multibox software literrally allows you to play 1 character, but get the attacks and loot of 4 characters.

Please review your stance on multiboxing. Any program that allows a significant advantage compared to normal players is against the spirit of fair play.


Quoted words from Chillaxin
Edited by Mugel#6806 on 1/25/2013 8:22 AM PST
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What part of "3rd party software" is vague? What a lame answer. It doesn't say it has to be automated, the ToS says it has to be a 3rd party program. Running a program in Diablo 3 fits that exactly.


No, it does NOT say all third party software. Yes, it DOES say automated, amongst other things.

http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/d3_eula.html

"Use cheats, automation software (bots), hacks, or any other unauthorized third-party software designed to modify the Game experience, including without limitation, mods that violate the terms of this License Agreement or the Terms of Use"
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01/25/2013 08:14 AMPosted by Doherty
!@#$ you blizzard. Bull%^-*ting us legitimate players all the time. The !@#$ is legit about controlling 4 chars with the click of one mouse. You ban mouse macro users but not this. You probably ban for loot alert something actually helpful but not this. Blizzard %^-* you for ruining everything i waited for. Diablo was supposed to be more than a cash crop but you !@#$ed it up and are dicking us around


You can't always get what you want, and when you can't, you shouldn't throw a hissy fit.
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01/25/2013 08:14 AMPosted by Doherty
!@#$ you blizzard. Bull%^-*ting us legitimate players all the time. The !@#$ is legit about controlling 4 chars with the click of one mouse. You ban mouse macro users but not this. You probably ban for loot alert something actually helpful but not this. Blizzard %^-* you for ruining everything i waited for. Diablo was supposed to be more than a cash crop but you !@#$ed it up and are dicking us around


What on earth do you need a macro for? This isn't WoW where there's a 4-6 button rotation for dps, there's 6 buttons.....6. I also think you're confusing keymapping vs macro...

If you're concerned about being banned for a "mouse macro" get the blizzard mouse or get a logitech gaming mouse - problem solved - no macro required its all keymapping

Either way cry more pls
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Weird, the haters aren't swarming this like they did with their hate threads.
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"finally" responds?

we know the answer for this since forever
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Its not "finally an answer". Look at the date Its from three months ago and EVERYONE said that Blizzard NEVER posted their stance on this issue FIRST lie.
Second, everyone claimed it was illegal and cheating. IT ISNT. The person NEEDS to be SITTING at the computer in order to control the every move and action performed by the characters. Cheaters use automation that does NOT require the person to be present at all and using automation the characters cannot be distracted, never make a mistake and NEVER fail to perform the task. Its a HUGE difference. No full-time job to go to, no bathroom breaks, no food, no drink, no sleeping, no gaming partners, no real life commitments. a single bot easily achieves at least 3X the amount of work that a real person can do with a single client and with automation, there will be at least four clients running at a time.
Multi-boxing is unfair but from an economy standpoint, it doesn't effect anyone other then the person that's doing it. They are getting ahead. Ok. Does it effect your user experience? NO! The only reason you are getting upset is jealousy. The fact is they paid $180 dollars more to do that then you. Even if they are finding 4X more they still need to sell 4X more to make up for the initial investment they spent on the additional 3 clients and this isn't counting the additional hardware they purchased to be able to do this type of activity in the first place.
It is time for people to mind their own business because you are choosing the smallest thing possible to complain about when there are hundreds of thousands of other players out there performing actual illegal activities inside the game that are negatively effecting the game in a severe way, morale wise, economy wise, and play experience wise, since you see them inside public games ALL the time.
Pick you battles because this one is over and it was never any of your business to begin with. Move on to something more important.
Edited by liljuicy#1847 on 1/25/2013 9:50 AM PST
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Ok, your right. Still, the rest of my post stands as is. When The blue responded to this still doesn't change that this was WoWs stance on it for years and that people made hundreds if not thousands of real dollars leveling, gearing and selling accounts in WoW.
It was totally predictable that this would be their stance in Diablo.
Edited by liljuicy#1847 on 1/25/2013 9:56 AM PST
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Dude its like doping. you are getting more out of the game then someone who doesn't want to risk getting banned.
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01/25/2013 10:04 AMPosted by Fathom
Dude its like doping. you are getting more out of the game then someone who doesn't want to risk getting banned.

Only multiboxing is allowed and doping isn't ;-)
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The blue post completely disproves what you are saying. If you need further clarification, you should strongly consider contacting blizzard customer support about the issue.
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Regardless of the official stance, the 1-input 4-window style is still bad, an still unethical, no matter how many people com to me and say otherwise. But I guess they can't detect it anyways, so even if they forbid that as they should, they would not be able to enforce the rule.


Agreed. Even if there is 1-input, there is still some sort of automation going on as the player is still only focusing on 1 main window. This isn't how the game is supposed to be played as it takes advantage of the "bonuses" provided when taking part in a multi-player game.

SMDH...
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false analogy. With doping, there is a person who is actually doping and is involved in a contest AGAINST other people for money and fame. There is also real risk of injury if it is not done correctly. There is no such risk or contest here.
Seriously. Mind your own business and let the issue die.
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Regardless of the official stance, the 1-input 4-window style is still bad, an still unethical, no matter how many people com to me and say otherwise. But I guess they can't detect it anyways, so even if they forbid that as they should, they would not be able to enforce the rule.


Agreed. Even if there is 1-input, there is still some sort of automation going on as the player is still only focusing on 1 main window. This isn't how the game is supposed to be played as it takes advantage of the "bonuses" provided when taking part in a multi-player game.

SMDH...

There is no automation involved. Blue clearly stated that as long as 1 command results in 1 action to each client that is fine. Automation would be having the program activate Ignore Pain each time it became available, as example.
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so blues have confirmed what we have been trying to explain to ppl for months. multiboxing is fine as long as there is no automation. one action can be replicated across multiple instances of the game as long as it was a user triggered action and therefore not automated.
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