01/31/2013 06:12 AM
Posted by Bahnzo
Just to clarify (I know Piffle knows this, but this is for the benefit for those who don't), MoC/Overawe gives 48% monster defence debuff for the first 3 seconds after spam, after that, it settles in at 24%.
No, it gives a 48% buff in overall damage. Popping that and then seven sided strike deals a *HUGE* amount of damage.
Listen, my intent was not to argue, just to give an alternative. But it's obvious that alternative ideas aren't welcome in the old boys club. Enjoy your burrito.
No, this is not correct. I'll let other argue about the semantics of whether it buffs your DPS or debuffs monsters ...
Mantra of Conviction/Overawe provides a flat 24% debuff to monsters while it is running. When you activate your mantra, you get another
24% debuff on top of this, up to a total of 48%. This means that you are only getting an extra 24% damage when you activate your mantra, NOT 48%.
48 - 24 = 24.
Anyway, I tried this build out for 3 runs last night (all I had time for). You can see the gear and abilities I was using in my profile.
Gear-wise I'm using a mix of my TR gear (mostly the spirit regen and PUR) and my normal high MP gear.
Since I have extra spirit regen on my gear, I was able to switch my abilities to damage based ones, so I'm using MoC/Submission and Sweeping Winds/Cyclone (I tried Firestorm too). I also am used to running TR without OwE or StI, so I swapped in Exalted Soul, thinking the extra spirit would help with flying around with DS.
It was actually a ton
of fun swooping around with DS. Given my spirit regen and the Templar, I was basically able to use it as much as I wanted and never ran into spirit issues. One issue I did run into, which was a little odd, is that my SW/Submission was doing so much damage that I had trouble getting/keeping the 3x stack from WotHF going. That might be a lack of experience with it, but I dunno.
So most of the time I found myself utilizing the MS buff from DS. This wasn't much of an issue in really packed zones like Keep Depths 2 and most of Arreat Crater 2. But there were times in Rakkis Crossing/Fields of Slaughter (I think? whatever it's called) that I ended up walking around without a movement buff.
Interestingly enough you can actually DS to objects that you can't highlight with the mouse - stuff like tables in Keep Depths. I guess anything that you can destroy, even if you can't click on it, you can DS to.
My first two runs I used Firestorm. The first run I was all flustered and forgot to snapshot my SW with gear (heh heh, such a nub). I got around ~48 mill exp/hour that run.
The second run I got ~50 exp/hour but I ended up DSing under the floor part of the way through Keep Depths so that probably took a little off that number.
The third run I switched to cyclone and ended up with 59 exp/hour. That's a pretty good number, at the bottom of what I usually average for TR (usually range from 55-70, with most in the 60s range). There's definitely room for improvement in my own play too, getting used to DSing to everything in sight when possible.
So yea, definitely a lot of fun and definitely a viable alternative to TR. Good job Nameless :)