Diablo® III

MF, RNG, Loot, Itemization How It Became A Failure

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01/28/2013 05:23 AMPosted by Angelus
Anyone that has spent atleast 1000h+ on this game can tell you for sure that RNG is broken. Proof of that is when you play on mp 8 with 450+mf and you find a rare ring or amu with 2 affix...Then you know RNG is broken. And trust me i have found a couple of them.
Must suck. I mean, I can remember killing Baal in D2 on Hell difficulty with 1100+ MF, and getting a Skull Collector (fyi, that's Nightmare-quality loot).

RNG is still RNG. Grats, you found an outlier. Now how many outliers on the OTHER side have you found?

Level 60 ring found last night on on MP4:
+24 Min Damage
+20 Max Damage
+38 Poison Resistence
Empty Socket.

Yay. Not RNG, but Itemization problem.
This is not an itemization problem. You found a ring with 4 affixes. The affixes just weren't to your liking, so what? You're saying that's "itemization"? You don't know the definition. Sockets? They're great (maybe not so on jewelry). +min/+max damage? Also good. +single resist? Not so hot, since they come with the same values as +resist all.

The +Single Resist is the *only* argument you have for bad itemization, since they can spawn up to 80, just like +Resist All. That means, for all intents and purposes, +Single Resist is worth a fraction of +Resist All. That is an itemization issue. The others? Not so much. +Single Resist should spawn up to 240.

Want to know OTHER itemization issues? +Life Leech is only on Weapons and Mighty Belts. +Freeze is only on Belts and Weapons(I think?). +Blind only on Amulets and Helms(?). That's an itemization issue. The fact that you dislike certain affixes IS NOT POOR ITEMIZATION.
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Want to know OTHER itemization issues? +Life Leech is only on Weapons and Mighty Belts. +Freeze is only on Belts and Weapons(I think?). +Blind only on Amulets and Helms(?). That's an itemization issue. The fact that you dislike certain affixes IS NOT POOR ITEMIZATION.



Each slot armor has 1 affix about status hits maybe they thought about this in relation with PVP to prevent abuse, and I agree with the mighty belts, life leech should also be on ordinary belts.
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01/28/2013 05:47 PMPosted by CyberGoat
Anyone that has spent atleast 1000h+ on this game can tell you for sure that RNG is broken. Proof of that is when you play on mp 8 with 450+mf and you find a rare ring or amu with 2 affix...Then you know RNG is broken. And trust me i have found a couple of them.
Must suck. I mean, I can remember killing Baal in D2 on Hell difficulty with 1100+ MF, and getting a Skull Collector (fyi, that's Nightmare-quality loot).

RNG is still RNG. Grats, you found an outlier. Now how many outliers on the OTHER side have you found?

Level 60 ring found last night on on MP4:
+24 Min Damage
+20 Max Damage
+38 Poison Resistence
Empty Socket.

Yay. Not RNG, but Itemization problem.
This is not an itemization problem. You found a ring with 4 affixes. The affixes just weren't to your liking, so what? You're saying that's "itemization"? You don't know the definition. Sockets? They're great (maybe not so on jewelry). +min/+max damage? Also good. +single resist? Not so hot, since they come with the same values as +resist all.

The +Single Resist is the *only* argument you have for bad itemization, since they can spawn up to 80, just like +Resist All. That means, for all intents and purposes, +Single Resist is worth a fraction of +Resist All. That is an itemization issue. The others? Not so much. +Single Resist should spawn up to 240.

Want to know OTHER itemization issues? +Life Leech is only on Weapons and Mighty Belts. +Freeze is only on Belts and Weapons(I think?). +Blind only on Amulets and Helms(?). That's an itemization issue. The fact that you dislike certain affixes IS NOT POOR ITEMIZATION.


Spawning single resists up to 240 shouldn't be allowed for one reason - OWE.

Enh. You don't think its an itemization problem. Ok. Using a bunch of CAPS doesn't mean you're right.
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@CyberGoat....

Perhaps i should give you a better example of this so called "RNG" in D3. I have played this game for almost 1800h with 61k elite kills, during this time i have manged to reach para level 91 soon to be 92.
And i have never and i repeat "NEVER" seeing a freaking set ring drop for me nor have i found any blacksmith Leg plans... Last time i saw a set iteam drop was when i was para level 86 and that was Inna's radiance which magically turned into instant brimstone. NOW can you even imagin how many Alkaizer runs and full act 3 clears i have done to reach level 91 and not finding a singel set iteam?

I dont know about you but for me this game is probably the most unrewarding ARPG game i have ever played.
And like most people i've come to the realization that D3 is NOT about the iteam hunt, Infact its all about how much gold you can farm and when you have enough gold you could buy your upgrads/iteams from AH. Forget about finding your own upgrads its "NOT GONNA HAPPEN", you know why?? Because somebody eles with less time played and less elite kills have already found an upgrade for you, possibly by using bots/multiboxing/hacks/dupe and is just itching for your hard farmed gold to be exchanged for your next gear upgrade on the AH...

BTW forget about replying i won't be reading this thread or the forums, I am gona take a LONG, "LONG" break from D3.

Bye everyone. Have a nice day
Edited by Angelus#2296 on 1/29/2013 7:27 AM PST
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You're completely wrong about three things.

First is pickup radius. This is an necessary affix for DH farming builds that use the Vengeance passive. I would literally stop playing the game if they took out pickup radius.

Second is spirit regeneration, granted it's useless on 1handers. Spirit regeneration is super important for TR monks (which always use Skorns), so if they took that away, the best monk farming build would be impossible.

Third is about the chance to x on hit. If these were minimum 5% and max 10% there would be some extremely broken PvE builds that worked around them. There's already permafreeze witch doctors, lets not make it any easier.

Please know what you're talking about before posting a rant like this.
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The way I see it, there are too many layers of RNG, and within those layers, there are far too many RNG of possible rolls.
RNG from drops
RNG from rolling which affixes
RNG from rolling the value of that affix.

This is probably worse than a casino.
I've ID 1000s of rings and ammys already and i can't remember anything that sold for more than 10mil.
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