Diablo® III

I'll be using at least 3 (almost certainly only 3 though). I already have the mats for them.

I might wait until the price comes down on the recipe some though.

I don't know a single person on this forum who will ever use that gem. I have a few friends that claim they will make a marquise gem but once they learn why this is a mistake, they too will pretend this gem doesn't even exist.

5. No noticeable difference vs. lower tiers of gems.

Most of us are just going to stick with star gems, maybe use flawless stars for our weps. I count a socket in a wep as 70% or 80% crit damage. Weps with innate 50-65% crit damage are much cheaper than a socket and almost as good. A socket seems to be worth 80-90% crit damage which tells me that almost no one uses radiant stars as it is!

Speak for yourself. No difference between 70/80 CD to 100% CD gem? Lol..

I will definitely be making / buying marquise gems for my weapons. Either 2 emeralds, possibly a ruby instead of the 2nd emerald. Not sure yet have to wait.

Btw, there is a reason why weapons with 50-65% CD are cheaper than weapons with socket...it's because they suck. Any weapon without a socket straight up sucks.

01/28/2013 03:28 PMPosted by Ace

The binding gear after gem is removed was fixed on the PTR. I'll be using at least 3 Marquise Gems.

How will you ever be able to sell marquise gems for other gem types or if you find better gear that has no sockets? I buy and sell gems all the time and would hate to be stuck with any gem, especially one costing around 100m! On another note, if you use an amethyst in helm, you won't need vitality gems in your armor.

I'm making a purple marquise for my helm. There's no better gem type for that slot.

And second, there is no better weapon without sockets. The highest chance that I'll ever use a weapon without a socket is probably when expansion comes out, and that's assuming there's a giant ilvl gap. Until then, i'll be sticking to weapons with sockets.

It's to trick the people hoarding 2b gold to gold sink away.

Please increase cost to craft as 2b and each repair cost 100m.

Good smart move & great gold sink for the 0.01%

How will you ever be able to sell marquise gems for other gem types or if you find better gear that has no sockets? I buy and sell gems all the time and would hate to be stuck with any gem, especially one costing around 100m! On another note, if you use an amethyst in helm, you won't need vitality gems in your armor.

I'm making a purple marquise for my helm. There's no better gem type for that slot.

And second, there is no better weapon without sockets. The highest chance that I'll ever use a weapon without a socket is probably when expansion comes out, and that's assuming there's a giant ilvl gap. Until then, i'll be sticking to weapons with sockets.

When the expansion comes out, all of our old equipment is going to become worthless anyway :P

It's to trick the people hoarding 2b gold to gold sink away.

Please increase cost to craft as 2b and each repair cost 100m.

Good smart move & great gold sink for the 0.01%

Based on the current crafting prices, it's not a gold sink at all. Their new crafting system in general (demonic essences etc) ARE gold sinks because they are BOA.

It's impossible to create a gold sink with gems when they will always be resell-able and only losing 15% from fees.

It's to trick the people hoarding 2b gold to gold sink away.

Please increase cost to craft as 2b and each repair cost 100m.

Good smart move & great gold sink for the 0.01%

Based on the current crafting prices, it's not a gold sink at all. Their new crafting system in general (demonic essences etc) ARE gold sinks because they are BOA.

It's impossible to create a gold sink with gems when they will always be resell-able and only losing 15% from fees.

Your stance suggests you forget that Marquises are BOA. (despite the bug)

I'm just hoping they dont make marquise gems an "achievement". it's taken me a while to get 3 done and still have amethyst to go.

Based on the current crafting prices, it's not a gold sink at all. Their new crafting system in general (demonic essences etc) ARE gold sinks because they are BOA.

It's impossible to create a gold sink with gems when they will always be resell-able and only losing 15% from fees.

Your stance suggests you forget that Marquises are BOA. (despite the bug)

Well so far with the patch notes it doesn't actually specify it's supposed to be BOA.

You look at the item crafting, it has a bullet point stating BOA; not for gems.

So at the moment I'm assuming it's a bug and it will be fixed for proper release. Otherwise, then of course it's a gold sink.

They should just give us marquise rubies for free to try on PTR so that we can test it out easily if we like the effects on our weapons or not.

01/28/2013 10:15 PMPosted by Omegaxmen

They should just give us marquise rubies for free to try on PTR so that we can test it out easily if we like the effects on our weapons or not.

Last I heard d3up and the other sites have updated their code to properly calculate marquis rubies. I'm not 100% sure on that though.

D3 is a game of diminsihing returns, and this pretty much fits right in.

You could also argue that except for weapons, radiant gems are not worth their money. There's no way 4 dex/int/str is worth the jump from 8 mil to 24 mil, some might argue. By that logic, pretty much anything over Star falls off of the efficiency curve.

Resalability isn't a major issue, because the people who are makign the marquise gems are probably fairly committed to sticking to their characters anyhow. I think it's actually an interesting money sink, and fixes the whole rollback/duping issue, at least at that tier.

You definitely can calculate effect of Marquise gems (all of them) on your gear using d3up. Last time I heard, the calculations were accurate.
What I find the most worrying thing about new gems is not BOA, or unsocketing cost, but repair cost - if it's really that high it means new gems will be used for show only because nobody will use them for farming.

01/28/2013 10:15 PMPosted by Omegaxmen

They should just give us marquise rubies for free to try on PTR so that we can test it out easily if we like the effects on our weapons or not.

Shouldn't they give you all the top tier perfect-rolled legendaries for free so you can try them also?...

You can buy gold on the ptr for 1/200 of gold on US server, which means you can test anything you want for a fraction of what it would cost to do so on the live realm.

01/28/2013 11:12 PMPosted by arktyczny

You definitely can calculate effect of Marquise gems (all of them) on your gear using d3up

01/28/2013 10:37 PMPosted by skp

Last I heard d3up and the other sites have updated their code to properly calculate marquis rubies

Thanks guys for info. I tried d3up. The marquise ruby improved my dagger damage by 8kdps. The marquise emerald improved my dagger damage by only about 2plus kdps. The marquise ruby on my sword reduced my damage output.

Should I change to marquise ruby then? Is it going to be worth it?

01/29/2013 06:34 AMPosted by Koric

They should just give us marquise rubies for free to try on PTR so that we can test it out easily if we like the effects on our weapons or not.

Shouldn't they give you all the top tier perfect-rolled legendaries for free so you can try them also?...

You can buy gold on the ptr for 1/200 of gold on US server, which means you can test anything you want for a fraction of what it would cost to do so on the live realm.

The point was there is a HUGE % of players that are testing varies stuff on PTR and do not have access to Ruby... seems counter-intuitive.

I have the resources but have not been able to access the AH for the last 3 copies over... GRRR.

01/29/2013 12:23 PMPosted by Omegaxmen

You definitely can calculate effect of Marquise gems (all of them) on your gear using d3up

Last I heard d3up and the other sites have updated their code to properly calculate marquis rubies

Thanks guys for info. I tried d3up. The marquise ruby improved my dagger damage by 8kdps. The marquise emerald improved my dagger damage by only about 2plus kdps. The marquise ruby on my sword reduced my damage output.

Should I change to marquise ruby then? Is it going to be worth it?

Whether it's worth it will depend on your gold and gear situation. For me, adding 2 emeralds to my manticore will add about 7.5k dps, adding a ruby and emerald will add about 9k, and adding 2 rubies actually decreases my dps. 9k dps isn't bad, and I plan on getting an emerald and ruby (and amethyst for my helm).

Also I hear the ruby is really really good for Calamity. Not sure how it does for other 1hd, but I would be sure to test all of the following:

emerald - emerald
emerald - ruby
ruby - emerald
ruby - ruby

and see how they affect you.

I won't be getting any of the new gems reason being many times I use them to cash in for gold to buy or help buy an upgrade.Also the cost/effectiveness is not worth it IMO.

Marquise = Inflation adjusted gold sink

For DHs running 3+ APS with Calamity & Marquise Ruby increases DPS by about 25% (At least on my cheapo speed demon 0 PL DH). Definitely going to get one for that gear set and add about 100-150 Avg damage on the jewelry to get to the 200K DPS level without Steady Aim...