Diablo® III

Rubies weapon damage adjustment

So what do you guys think about this?

Radiant Square Rubies, Star Rubies, Flawless Star Rubies, Perfect Star Rubies, and Radiant Star Rubies have had their weapon bonuses increased (these changes will apply to both existing rubies, as well as new rubies):
Radiant Square Ruby: +40 minimum damage/+40 maximum damage (up from +16/+16)
Star Ruby: +60 minimum damage/+60 maximum damage (up from +17/+17)
Flawless Star Ruby: +80 minimum damage/+80 maximum damage (up from +18/+18)
Perfect Star Ruby: +100 minimum damage/+100 maximum damage (up from +19/+19)
Radiant Star Ruby: +120 minimum damage/+120 maximum damage (up from +20/+20)

Do you see rubies competing with emeralds in weapons based on these (significant) changes?
Edited by Nameless#1537 on 1/30/2013 9:09 PM PST
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Here's some quick testing I did with a 1.63 dagger and 1.56 Sledge Fist --->

Radiant Star Ruby (120/120) in these two weapons -->

44.5% crit chance for both weapon tests

1078 dps 1.63 attack-speed dagger
100% emerald ---> +15,000 dps
120/120 ruby ---> +17,000 dps

159.5 dps 1.56 attack-speed Sledge Fist
100% emerald ----> +15,000 dps
120/120 ruby ----> +12,000 dps

So with a good amount of attack speed, rubies definitely seem better than emeralds in most cases.
Edited by blhotz#1823 on 1/30/2013 8:56 PM PST
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It would be very specific, build based. I could see it as the new way to gear that is not as expensive.
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just rough estimation;
Ruby is better for low dps weapon, especially low level weapon for leveling new character..

for high dps weapon, ruby comes close to emerald, depending crit/as..

I will run some number later when I get home..

it definitely a alternative of emerald..
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The +%damage also aply on the ruby damage?
if so that should be accouted for. and will be one mare thing to look of a weapon...
IAS is going to have a up in the prices,
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After the new change, they are a nerf for me.
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From everything I've read about the new ruby vs new emerald is going to be most effective for boosting overall DPS in sword/board builds...Not sure about weapons like a SKORN however...would like to see some numbers on that if anyone is going to be testing the new Ruby.
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Puts my Doom Gash at 1722 dps with a 120 ruby. I pick up 15k paper dps.

I'll have to check Edps. I'll go do that now.
Edited by Narcolepsy#1563 on 1/31/2013 12:12 AM PST
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brosephs, check it out.

If you have a black weapon, put a ruby in it, because it already has natural min/max.
(not sure about sledgefist though, its puny damage might not be good)

So this applies to Echoing Fury with dual wielders,
put a ruby in it, put an emerald into the other hand.
wear EF on your main hand, strong crit weap on the other, drop bells, profit.

For shield users, stick to emeralds, you got the crit chance from shield.
using ruby with Sw/B would gimp your crit damage.
But if ur wearing a black damage weap with a shield, then the first scenario miiight override,
but idk about that one, can't trust the paper dps.

for 2 handers,
I won't spoil the fun on this one, so I'll let you figure it out, haha.
(in other words, just use an emerald, bro. x)

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And ya'll heard it here first. ;)
Edited by CountFury#1192 on 1/31/2013 5:42 AM PST
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I haven't done anything yet, still. Heh. Been runnin around Mp10 just mowin down stuff.
Switching out FoL for DR/Foresight and dropping resolve for Combo strike is sick dude, runnin around with 350k dps is crazy. Lovin it. Not missing that snapshot at all.
Edited by Narcolepsy#1563 on 1/31/2013 1:26 AM PST
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what about WKL + BS pair? BS should be black so ruby no? WKL should be lightning so emerald??
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yea, red gem on butcher's sickle, green gem on sum yung guy, uh.. I mean won khim lau. :P
Shiny!
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I believe that if we crit often (CHC% >40%) having emerald is still superior than ruby. Anyone can shed some light on my "believe"??

What I want to know is not only the paper dps, but actual damages dealt.
Edited by yuhhaur#1278 on 1/31/2013 1:34 AM PST
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Here's some quick testing I did with a 1.63 dagger and 1.56 Sledge Fist --->

Radiant Star Ruby (120/120) in these two weapons -->

44.5% crit chance for both weapon tests

1078 dps 1.63 attack-speed dagger
100% emerald ---> +15,000 dps
120/120 ruby ---> +17,000 dps

159.5 dps 1.56 attack-speed Sledge Fist
100% emerald ----> +15,000 dps
120/120 ruby ----> +12,000 dps

So with a good amount of attack speed, rubies definitely seem better than emeralds in most cases.


I dont get it. Did you test DW or 1x 1H? The big ruby almost doubles the dps of the sledge fist. With only this Item equipped and otherwise lvl 60+ items i can not see how 100%CD can be more effective than near double avg dmg. Please explain your experiment.
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I believe that if we crit often (CHC% >40%) having emerald is still superior than ruby. Anyone can shed some light on my "believe"??

What I want to know is not only the paper dps, but actual damages dealt.


Well, I figure if you are getting more Crit's then white hits, then an emerald is the way to go, if you are getting more white hits then crits, a ruby would be the way to go. So, unless logic is just totally screwed up, I should get more Edps out of an emerald then I would a ruby since I'm at 63% Crit chance.
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I'm going to stream some tests if anyone is interested. I have nothing better to do. I'm making Mac 'n Cheese.

http://www.twitch.tv/narcolepsydiii
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looks good, make me one. ;D
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Apparently they still using the old ruby calculation...

Your weapon dmg 660~1213

120 ruby add 120~240
+49% damage = 178.8~357.6

your weapon dmg now 838.8~1570.6
Average damage is (838.8 + 1507.6)/2 =1204.7

New weapon dps is 1204.7 x 1.43(attack speed) = 1722

*New ruby calculation will just add 120~120, making your weapon 1510dps instead
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Edited by Edmericanpie#6445 on 1/31/2013 2:25 AM PST
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Apparently they still using the old ruby calculation...

Your weapon dmg 660~1213

120 ruby add 120~240
+49% damage = 178.8~357.6

your weapon dmg now 838.8~1570.6
Average damage is (838.8 + 1507.6)/2 =1204.7

New weapon dps is 1204.7 x 1.43(attack speed) = 1722

*New ruby calculation will just add 120~120, making your weapon 1510dps instead


So any testing now would be a waste of time. Good to know, my Mac "n Cheese is getting cold.
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