Diablo® III

AH Bidding Hack?

Ok... I found a ring a like.. so I bid on it.. minimum bid was like 86m... so i made a custom bid.. and made it totally random. 98,765,555 .. the max I was willing to spend. 30 min later... I was outbid. Only problem is... the Current bid on the item is 98,765,555 and I am not winning. How is this possible? still 5 hours left on the item

I searched the item just to confirm it wasn't lag on my personal AH bidding screen... and it's confirmed exactly the same bid as mine... but I'm not winning.
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working as intended. the AH will only show you what the previous max bid was, so someone just bid over you, but it will not show you by how much unless you bid over them.
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I dont mean this as an insult, how are you paragon 100 and not know this?
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This is an update today to get rid of this exploit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3__y3XMQQg

Before, it was proxy bidding (if you bid 100m on an item, but it isn't sufficient enough, the person with the higher bid will automatically bid 5% more.)
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02/01/2013 06:47 PMPosted by jdny1388
I dont mean this as an insult, how are you paragon 100 and not know this?
Too busy grinding to be studying the AH?
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02/01/2013 06:47 PMPosted by jdny1388
I dont mean this as an insult, how are you paragon 100 and not know this?


I don't think u understand... the current bid can't be MY bid... if I was outbid.. the current bid would show to be HIGHER than what I bid.

You see... I bid 98,675,555...
and you come along and bid on the item after me... your bid would be higher... like 99,750,000
therefore the current bid would be 99,750,000

As it stands... the current bid is 98,675,555 which is my bid... but I am Losing...
Edited by Milkman#1186 on 2/1/2013 7:00 PM PST
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02/01/2013 06:55 PMPosted by Milkman
I dont mean this as an insult, how are you paragon 100 and not know this?


I don't think u understand... the current bid can't be MY bid... if I was outbid.. the current bid would show to be HIGHER than what I bid.


It's not YOUR bid. Since your bid was still the SAME or LOWER than someone else's bid, that someone else will have the current bid of whatever you bid. This is a great fix by Blizzard as it fixes the AH exploit as shown in the video above.
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02/01/2013 06:58 PMPosted by Ovieously


I don't think u understand... the current bid can't be MY bid... if I was outbid.. the current bid would show to be HIGHER than what I bid.


It's not YOUR bid. Since your bid was still the SAME or LOWER than someone else's bid, that someone else will have the current bid of whatever you bid. This is a great fix by Blizzard as it fixes the AH exploit as shown in the video above.


I was winning with 98,675,555... if someone outbid me ... why does it still show 98,675,555??
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It's not YOUR bid. Since your bid was still the SAME or LOWER than someone else's bid, that someone else will have the current bid of whatever you bid. This is a great fix by Blizzard as it fixes the AH exploit as shown in the video above.


I was winning with 98,675,555... if someone outbid me ... why does it still show 98,675,555??


I am going to add an example to make this clear for everyone.
Below, is how the AH worked BEFORE the change that happened today:

Lets say there's an item on the auction house. Starting bid is 100m.
Player 1 places a max bid of 120m.
Current bid is now 100m by Player 1.
Player 2 places a bid of 105m. Insufficient bid.
Current bid is now 105 * 1.05 = 110.25m still by Player 1.
Player 2 places a bid of 117m. Insufficient bid.
Current bid is now 120m still by Player 1.

Player 2, by simply using a calculator, can easily tell that Player 1's max bid is 120m because if Player 1 had bid 130m at the start, for example, then the current bid would be 117m * 1.05 = 122.85m INSTEAD of 120m. So, since 120m is not equal to 122.85m, Player 2 knows that Player 1's max bid is 120m.

In other words, people that bid more than they are willing to pay for an item just so they can "secure" that item can get screwed because other players exploit this method to raise their bids to their MAX bids.

Blizzard has fixed this exploit because now the 5% higher bid isn't added automatically.
For example, this is the new (and improved) AH:

Lets say there's an item on the auction house. Starting bid is 100m, No Buyout.
Player 1 places a max bid of 120m.
Current bid is now 100m by Player 1.
Player 2 places a bid of 105m. Insufficient bid.
Current bid is now 105m but STILL by Player 1 since Player 2's bid is still equal or lower.
Player 2 places a bid of 117m. Insufficient bid.
Current bid is now 117m still by Player 1.
Player 2 places a bid of 130m. SUFFICIENT BID.
Current bid is now 120m * 1.05 = 126m by PLAYER 2.

Player 2 has NO way of knowing what Player 1's max bid was in the first place anymore.

Thanks for the fix Blizzard!
Edited by Ovieously#1115 on 2/1/2013 7:24 PM PST
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Yes, it was a change which must have been recent
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So if current bid is 120m from player 1
and player 2 comes and bids 130m...

The current bid will now show 126m??

If this is the case... then that doesn't solve my issue.

I bid 98,675,555... and it was sufficient.. I was winning with 98,675,555

Player x came along... and outbid me... and the current bid was still showing 98,675,555 which was my bid.. yet I was outbid.

Someone may have already figured out an exploit for the new update.
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So if current bid is 120m from player 1
and player 2 comes and bids 130m...

The current bid will now show 126m??

If this is the case... then that doesn't solve my issue.

I bid 98,675,555... and it was sufficient.. I was winning with 98,675,555

Player x came along... and outbid me... and the current bid was still showing 98,675,555 which was my bid.. yet I was outbid.

Someone may have already figured out an exploit for the new update.


Sorry, I made a mistake on my post. Look at it again (I underlined the edit).
In your case, the new current bid should have been 98,675,555*1.05 IF you actually were winning the bid at one point. Are you sure you were actually winning the bid? Because if 98,675,555 wasn't sufficient, then the current bid will remain 98,675,555 but for the higher bidder. Otherwise, I would report that as a bug!
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02/01/2013 07:38 PMPosted by CylentPsycho
I dont mean this as an insult, how are you paragon 100 and not know this?


I don't mean this as an insult, how can you not know that it is a recent change and still want to insult people?
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02/01/2013 07:59 PMPosted by Shdwflare


I don't mean this as an insult, how can you not know that it is a recent change and still want to insult people?

lol i even put im not trying to insult him in my damn post, what more do i need to do. I was under the impression that this is how its always been, if not then im wrong but its essentially the same thing as before.
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I don't mean this as an insult, how can you not know that it is a recent change and still want to insult people?

lol i even put im not trying to insult him in my damn post, what more do i need to do. I was under the impression that this is how its always been, if not then im wrong but its essentially the same thing as before.


It's very different from how it worked before hence why the OP is confused.
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02/01/2013 06:53 PMPosted by Ovieously
Before, it was proxy bidding (if you bid 100m on an item, but it isn't sufficient enough, the person with the higher bid will automatically bid 5% more.)

TLDR: Why don't people get it. The 2nd highest bid is always shown to you and clicking "bid" only shows you a 5% higher value because that's the minimum increment you can bid. You can still bid this extra 5% and fail miserably if its not as much as the max bid.

*******

If an item had a 1,000,000 starting bid and someone made a bid...

Bid Shown: 1,000,000; Default Bid Shown when you click "Bid": 1,050,000; Highest Actual Bid: 1,000,000

Then someone bids 1,400,000 and currently gets the highest bid.

Bid Shown 1,000,000; Default Bid Shown: 1,050,000; Highest Actual Bid: 1,400,000

Then someone else bids 1,500,000 and currently gets the highest bid.

Bid Shown 1,400,000; Default Bid Shown: 1,470,000; Highest Actual Bid: 1,500,000

Someone else bids 5,578,000 and currently gets the highest bid.

Bid Shown 1,500,000; Default Bid Shown: 2,250,000; Highest Actual Bid: 5,578,000

Someone Bids 7,000,000 and currently gets the highest bid.

Bid Shown: 5,578,000; Default Bid Shown: 5,856,900; Highest Actual Bid: 7,000,000

Someone Bids 6,987,654.
You lose the bid upon making it and get your money back.

Bid Shown 6,987,654; Default Bid Shown: 7,337,036; Highest Actual Bid: 7,000,000
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Ok, after reading Ovieously's explanation, i have no idea
what the hell is going on.
Shouldn't it be as simple as: this is the current bid on item
so add more or you don't get it?
Dear lord people, USE BUYOUTS!
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your highest bid is no longer obvious because it only shows a 5% increment from the previous bid.
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