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Wow. Did you just try to market yourself to me...again? Every post you make your taking the opportunity to PROmote yourself. Worse than a telemarketer. Sorry, I'm not going to click on these and allow you tube to pay you a small sum for traffic (and I do mean small). Your not a pro gamer. Your a pro-marketer...if your were a pro gamer I would be watching you play D3 on G4. Though I fail to see what you could be doing that would need that attention...since it isn't a game based on competition.
Your new name is Mote. And you certainly are a "pro" at something...
All that sounds like a big jerk-off session to me. :) But maybe it's just my personality type :P
LOL...the AH is a tool for selling not trading you idiot, there are other options for that....you can't "trade" in the AH....wow just stop, you are not a pro! I bet your going to argue this one to death as well????
Sure it is. The only difference is that there is a "medium of exchange" being used, i.e. gold or USD, etc. "A medium of exchange is an intermediary used in trade to avoid the inconveniences of a pure barter system."
LOL...the AH is a tool for selling not trading
Dear lord...really? Trading in D3 means bartering with someone not selling. You want to trade go to the trade chat, you want to buy/sell go to the AH. You don't TALK with anyone in the ah/rmah, you make up your mind if you want sell/buy then list it for purchase or buy it accordingly. You don't trade anything, but you may bid against other players for an item. See the difference.
Edited by pcjunkie#1409 on 2/8/2013 7:03 AM PST
1.) Trade an item you found for gold.
2.) Trade the gold for an item you do want.
Bartering, auctioning, and selling are all forms of trade. No matter what method you're using, being an expert at it is a big part of the Online RPG game.
Stock Exchange Trading, ebay, etc. Many forms of trade do not require any talking.
Edited by Chillaxin#1429 on 2/8/2013 8:48 AM PST
I remember back in WoW when I was doing tons of business on the auction house, I'd occasionally attempt to make some trades via chat and PMs. Highly inefficient and almost never worth it. I prefer to keep the human interaction somewhere like raiding or PvP, where things like voice communication or being at a LAN together make things better, not worse.
It's not like we're making million dollar or life changing deals here. For trading that is simply too valuable for the auction house (above 2 billion), human interaction will be needed. Not necessarily an undesirable thing either. High value trades certainly deserve a little more care and attention to complete without a problem. The whole idea of the auction house is that all the smaller, routiune trades that happen 10000 times more often can be made hundreds of times more efficient. See, someone can literally be buying and selling 100 items a day while they're playing in D3, such as gems, crafting stuff, cheap gear. Try doing that in a chat trade system. These items typically aren't valuable enough to bother spending more than a couple minutes time on, but they're still valuable to some extent. It would be impossible to have a well functioning chatroom marketplace for these types of items. You'd be limited to maybe 100-300 per chatroom to keep things managable, which means you don't have access to all the other people's goods and buying interests.
We value our time. If I'm trading items in the 10,000 to 50,000 gold range dozens of times, having no automated system to do so will seriously gum up the works. It's true that there are marketplaces in the world where small trades and bargaining occur all the time, but people go to these places specifically to do these things. It just doesn't work as well in computer games, although I've seen specialists who like to trade this way, but at the end of the day that type of trade is usually more for fun than maximizing efficiency. I can enjoy trading in that way, but only if I'm not being dragged down into halting my efficiency.
This guy is so jealous.
Really, go onto ebay and try and trade something. You can't you have to purchase or bid an item and if you win you purchase it, because the "seller" yes that's what ebay calls them is selling something. You would be called the "buyer". You sell something on ebay you don't trade. Tell me smart one what is your definition of selling then? If talking is the only sticky point then yes you can trade without talking...big whoop dee doo!
Cripes not another basement dweller. So I have a career, pension, 401K, insurance, etc. and I'm the jealous one...LOL
PS: And yes I really do enjoy my job...
OP: I can only imagine you aren't very familiar with gaming culture. Given the WoW profile maybe it is just that this is your limited gaming experience. Pro doesn't not necessarily imply professional in the sense of gaming being a job. It is very often used to indicate one is of a skill level of a professional. Whether the game actually supports professional competitive play or not is irrelevant. It merely is an expression of great experience with the game/genre that places the player among the elite and most experienced.
A pro Diablo 2 player, for example, would imply someone who has a great deal of experience with the game such as someone who has had 100+ characters, played every ladder season, or has extensive play time with each major patch.
Sometimes the declaration is made out of arrogance but often times the declaration is merited. I hope this helped you understand the culture a little better.
Give or hand over (something) in trade for money
1.) Trade an item you want to sell for money.
2.) Trade the money to pay your bills or whatever merchandise you want.
Anytime you use a currency, you are practicing trade.
You sell something on ebay you don't trade. Tell me smart one what is your definition of selling then?
I can do that too...1 minute of searching.
Selling: The last step in the chain of commerce where a buyer exchanges cash for a seller's good or service, or the
activity of trying to bring this about.
a (1) : to give up (property) to another for something of value (as money) (2) : to offer for sale
Give or hand over (something) in exchange for money: "they had sold the car".
An act of selling or attempting to sell something: "scientific achievement is too subtle a sell for the public".
verb. vend - market
to transfer (goods) to or render (services) for another in exchange for money; dispose of to a purchaser for a price: He sold the car to me for $1000.
to deal in; keep or offer for sale: He sells insurance. This store sells my favorite brand.
to make a sale or offer for sale to: He'll sell me the car for $1000.
to persuade or induce (someone) to buy something: The salesman sold me on a more expensive model than I wanted.
to persuade or induce someone to buy (something): The clerk really sold the shoes to me by flattery.
I'm surprised you even posted having a career and all as a pro d3 player selling virtual goods on the RMAH...business must not be doing so well, huh?
Edited by pcjunkie#1409 on 2/10/2013 9:39 AM PST
A new online RPG is set to release in spring 2013
Exchange = Trade.
Exchange = Trade.
Exhange = Trade
Once you realize that exchange means the exact same thing as trade you see that your definitions fit exactly with what I was telling you.
Currency was created to make trade easier. In diablo 2 players turned "SOJ" into currency to make trade easier. You could sell items for X amount of SOJs. In diablo3 the auction house was created to make trade easier. Now you sell items for X amount of gold. Both examples are forms of trade.
Edited by Chillaxin#1429 on 3/11/2013 8:22 AM PDT
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