Please explain to me why is the overflowing bucket is a bad thing, except for aesthetic point of view ? It's definitely preferable to an empty bucket for those that's really thirsty and can't spend too much time.
02/07/2013 08:35 PMPosted by GlockWhy would they use BoE they never have? The loot in this game doesn't work that way. Loot is entirely too random.
I'm saying the lack of diverse affixes is what causes the massive AH use in the first place. We all know what affixes to "build" with, and that's what is sought after the most in the auction house. Everything else is just fluff and/or worse.
You're right, I don't need to find my own loot because we can trade. The problem is trading has taken 1st place to finding your own loot, hence the bucket overflows.
02/07/2013 08:35 PMPosted by GlockSo how is needing to "get rid of water" relevant?
Incorrect. A common fallacy of looking at one desirable consequence of program without assessing the costs.
First, there is already a way to drain the bucket. It is the vendor. Every time a better item is entered in the system there is a tiny devaluing of every worse item, as all value is relative. So, the worst item in the system that was one notch from vendor trash now becomes vendor trash. It does not sell, at any price, and the seller removes the item from the "bucket" and vendors it. That is very simplified, but its basically how it works.
02/07/2013 08:38 PMPosted by RecluceMaking drops less valuable is bad.
02/07/2013 08:41 PMPosted by DrothvaderIt's relevant because it illustrates a point on why BoA might be necessary for D3's economy to exist and thrive.
02/07/2013 08:41 PMPosted by GlockThe bucket is definitely not overflowing... the good items are all very expensive. The problem is the "builds" you are referring to require all the same stats for all the same classes. Also, the only items really worth anything are those with good affix rolls and high rolls on them... these are also the hardest items to find. In D2 some of the "easier" to find items (uniques) were still ones that were used for end game builds. Some items were worth 1-4 SoJ's... some worth 10-20... and some worth lots more. In Diablo 3... the equivalent would be all the good items are worth 30-40 SoJs.... then you have all the other items that are worth fractions of SoJs and what not. (You can use High Runes in place of SoJ and its the same point).
02/07/2013 08:45 PMPosted by MatticlesIt seems you're looking more at the currency and exchange rate, while I'm referring more to the quantity and volume that the AHs are used, and in return just how much stuff is dumped on it.
Unfortunately, this "drip" has turned into a small yet steady stream.. and people are now trying to sell there cups of water, on look at general and " WTS (Unidentified) " will pop up multiple times per min.
Witch leads me to one solution, dont allow players to sell there cups, only sell ID'd items in trade box. That can do one of two things.. Eliminate the "junk" to a vendor or they will pour their cup back into the bucket.... Wait.. what was that? Pour their cup back into the bucket??!!!
My solution, Dont allow players to pour their cup back into the bucket.. You're only allowed to post an item ONCE in the AH for a 24-48 hour period, your choice.. Then you either, vendor it... or sell it through /Trade.. a different "join-able" chat group than is not displayed all the time. Cleaning up General Chat for... General chat.. (posting an item in General Chat will cut you off for 1 min, then 5min, 1 hour, then 24 hours) Want a question answered in General about an item without the penalty.. Find someone willing and Private message them
02/07/2013 08:48 PMPosted by GlockI get yeah. I understand the desire some people have to just get away from the AH as much as they can. But at the same time.. I don't see implementing something that would drastically affect those that do already use the AH. However, something that could clean up "junk" per say... I could see that. People will throw up anything.
02/07/2013 08:48 PMPosted by GlockIf I went back and looked at the loot for D2... there are items that were used end game... some people found lots of... some were more rare... some were very rare. Drop rates and drops varied over the life of the game... but there was always a good range of the drops. In D3 all the gear you want/need is also the most rare. Right now it is vary hard to "trade up" from items you find. You have to either farm ALOT or hit the lottery. And even farming is hard to turn a profit... you really have to hit the lottery multiple times to get loot. In D2 you could hit small lotteries, medium lotteries...big ones...and mega ones..etc. I think that is what is missing from this game.
02/07/2013 08:57 PMPosted by steakncheeseBoE only works in theory. Realistically people will simply not equip anything sub-par. You already see this with purchases on legendaries. Why buy that 1000 DPS weapon for X, when you can save and buy that 1100 DPS weapon for Y.
02/07/2013 08:44 PMPosted by DrothvaderSo wouldn't it be better to agree that there's a problem and to now find a solution?
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