Diablo® III

HOTA Barbs - Break Point & Cold SoJ

Hey, had a couple questions for HOTA Barbs. Do we have 'break points' in terms of ias? (in a way similar to ww)

I saw a post on the forums that said something about reaching 3.01 or something ias does improve dps on a 'break point' basis, wasn't sure if this was correct or not?

I'm talking about dps potential only, NOT fury regeneration/relating to sustaining perm-WOTB.

I was also wondering about how beneficial a Cold SoJ is for a HOTA barb on MP 5+ that uses EF (and therefore causes fear). I personally like the fear because it gives me distance to create whirlwinds from running (a fury regeneration benefit), but I know I do lose a little in dps from catching up. I'm at 74% move spd, so it's pretty easy to catch up, but didn't know if using a Cold SoJ would still allow enough distance for whirlwind before catching up? I'm planning to try it out with a cheap cold SoJ, but no way I can easily test a cold -hota one lol.

I was also wondering if top tier barbs (250k+ dps unbuffed) focus on keeping 100% crit (including fury chance) or if you'll aim more for a 90-95% in exchange for more crit dgm, str, ias, that leads to an overall dps increase. I've always aimed for 100% because if I stop critting, I lose crit chance from lack of fury - but that dps is always hard to calculate...
Edited by TheDK#1655 on 2/20/2013 2:00 AM PST
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bump :).
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I thought the breakpt was only for WW build...
You can use a slow weapon like skorn and do pretty well for HOTA build...

Correct me if i m wrong...
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HotA likely has breakpoints, it's just that no one (that I know of) has bothered to measure them yet.
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0.89553 -111% 413141
0.9091 -110% 419497
0.92308 -109% 426052
0.93751 -108% 432814
0.95239 -107% 439795
0.96775 -106% 447005
0.98361 -105% 454455
1.00001 -104% 462158
1.01695 -103% 470126
1.03449 -102% 478374
1.05264 -100% 486916
1.07143 -99% 495769
1.09091 -98% 504950
1.11112 -96% 514477
1.13208 -95% 524371
1.15385 -93% 534653
1.17648 -92% 545346
1.20001 -90% 556476
1.22449 -88% 568069
1.25001 -87% 580155
1.2766 -85% 592767
1.30435 -83% 605940
1.33334 -81% 619711
1.36364 -79% 634123
1.39535 -77% 649221
1.42858 -74% 665056
1.46342 -72% 681683
1.50001 -69% 699162
1.53847 -67% 717561
1.57895 -64% 736954
1.62163 -61% 757425
1.66667 -58% 779066
1.71429 -54% 801979
1.76471 -51% 826282
1.81819 -47% 852103
1.87501 -43% 879590
1.93549 -39% 908910
2.00001 -35% 940252
2.06897 -30% 973832
2.14286 -25% 1009900
2.22223 -19% 1048742
2.3077 -13% 1090692
2.40001 -7% 1136138
2.50001 0% 1185535
> 2.5056 ↓ 1185535
2.6087 8% 1239423
2.72728 16% 1298443
2.85715 25% 1363365
3.00001 35% 1435121
3.1579 46% 1514850
3.33334 58% 1603959
3.52942 72% 1704206
3.75001 87% 1817820
4.00001 104% 1947664
4.28572 124% 2097485
4.61539 147% 2272275
5.00001 174% 2478845
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from d3rawr for my setup, the breakpoints are on the left, shouldnt change for different setups. the other two collumns are specific for my build.
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What is this table showing us??
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the left column is the breakpoints, the center one is the amount of bonus asp i need for it, with 1.44 base asp. and the right one is the dps i have for each breakpoint.
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www.d3rawr.com/d
Edited by CoisaRuim#1626 on 2/20/2013 1:53 PM PST
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Yes 2-handed (especially skorns) work, but then perma wotb is much harder to sustain.

the left column is the breakpoints


These are.. the breakpoints for what? HOTA doesn't 'tick' the same way as WW, as the nadoes have a tick/time effect - as far as I know..

I guess I should've specified what I meant.. 2 attack spd for hota should mean 2 attacks per second, yes? So in 4 seconds, I would atk 8 times. At 2.22 I'm left with 8.8 - but let's say every 4 seconds I actually do 9 attacks (a round up), while at 2.21 I get rounded down to 8 atks - I would consider 2.22 a break point. Now I picked 4 seconds at random, but the point being that with a certain time frame (x), certain asp allow for an extra atk (tick), that otherwise you wouldn't get.
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This is a job for Nubtro. :-)
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HOTA has breakpoints just like WW and sprint, thats because an animation has a discrete number of frames it can take. The breakpoints are above, like WW and sprint u dont have benefit from ASP unless u hit those, they are much closer tho.
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Anyone know where d3rawr got their numbers from for the hota breakpoints? I'm interested in reading the reference material.

Personally, I prefer to go with my HotA SOJ for this type of build over my cold SOJ, which I use for pure WW builds. If course, I suppose you could get both stats on one, but that is too expensive for me.
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