Diablo® III

Infested Kerrigan vs Archangel Tyrael

Poster child characters from Blizzard's two franchises fight it out...who prevails?

For whatever reason these two find themselves on the same planet with no one else. Archangel of Justice knows of the treachery and bloodshed on Kerrigan's hands...he deems she must die for her sins. Queen of blades wont have any of it.

Location: Planet Char
Starting Distance: 200 meters
State of Mind: IC, and willing to kill
Note: While Tyrael is immortal, if his physical form is destroyed and forced to reform himself back in the High Heavens...Kerrigan wins.

Scenario1: 1vs1.

Scenario 2: If it's a stomp for Kerrigan add Imperius to Team Archangel, if it's a stomp for Tyrael and Zeratul to Team Psionics.
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kerrigan can watch replays and study enemies
kerrigan have a better latency

tyrael has no chance with his 300+ ping also he kinda lost all his power
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kerrigan can watch replays and study enemies
kerrigan have a better latency

tyrael has no chance with his 300+ ping also he kinda lost all his power


Actually as the title says its Archangel Tyrael so its before he became mortal.

Since HOTS, Kerrigan is pretty much the most powerful psionic in her respective game thus far, and I was wondering how she would do against a high-tier from the Diabloverse.

I see Tyrael sort of being like a Holy Archon but with the battle prowess of at least of a Heroic Dark Templar or Heroic Zealot. I know Kerrigan can go toe-to-toe against Zaratul and Tassadar together in close combat, and Tyrael is up their with Imperius / Diablo in melee prowess so I wanted to see how well they would do against each other.
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SSj4 Son Gokou wins
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03/25/2013 12:48 AMPosted by Vinallen
SSj4 Son Gokou wins

No way, you need big bang kamehameha from Fusion SSJ4 Gogeta.
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kerrigan can watch replays and study enemies
kerrigan have a better latency

tyrael has no chance with his 300+ ping also he kinda lost all his power


Actually as the title says its Archangel Tyrael so its before he became mortal.

Since HOTS, Kerrigan is pretty much the most powerful psionic in her respective game thus far, and I was wondering how she would do against a high-tier from the Diabloverse.

I see Tyrael sort of being like a Holy Archon but with the battle prowess of at least of a Heroic Dark Templar or Heroic Zealot. I know Kerrigan can go toe-to-toe against Zaratul and Tassadar together in close combat, and Tyrael is up their with Imperius / Diablo in melee prowess so I wanted to see how well they would do against each other.


I really dont care but since theres nothing better to talk about now...

Tyrael so far has proven that he can't do anything without screwing up. Tyrael was tricked to use the soulstones on the prime-evils thus making the big 3 unkillable. When Diablo(2) came to rescue Baal, Tyrael failed to stop him. Tyrael was imprisoned by Duriel (a fat maggot) till you rescued him. When Baal corrupted the worldstone, Tyrael claimed he had to destroy it to save the world. What a waste of time. Then there's his uselessness in D3. Of course, all angels are worthless in D3 so it might be his genes getting in the way of him actually accomplishing something by him self. Cain > Tyrael

Kerrigan at least was able to kill billions of human soldiers and civilians for a personal vendetta.

In conclusion Tyrael wins if this contest was to stand around to look pretty, but gets decapitated by a jealous Kerrigan
Edited by TheCursed#6888 on 3/25/2013 1:01 AM PDT
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03/25/2013 12:54 AMPosted by TheCursed
Tyrael so far has proven that he can't do anything without screwing up. Tyrael was tricked to use the soulstones on the prime-evils thus making the big 3 unkillable.


Well, that's a fail on him when it comes long-term strategy...doesn't really apply to one on one combat.

When Diablo(2) came to rescue Baal, Tyrael failed to stop him. Tyrael was imprisoned by Duriel (a fat maggot) till you rescued him.


Okay, at least some combat implications in this one. Diablo in the body of the Warrior (D1) and Baal in the body of Tal Rasha was able to overcome Tyrael without his sword.

When Baal corrupted the worldstone, Tyrael claimed he had to destroy it to save the world.


Could this be a good destruction/power feat for his Sword of Justice? Lore does say its a unique weapon which would be able to cut anything in existence. World Stone should be pretty powerful as they say it was one of the Eyes of Anu.

Kerrigan's wings have been shown to resist Warp and Psy Blades (in the novel) but has also been seen to be sliced by Zeratul's Warp Blade when she didn't expect the strike to happen. So it seems a lot of its durability comes from Kerrigan bolstering it with her telekinesis as a sort of shield when she plans to take on blades psionic in nature. How would it do against Tyrael's Sword of Justice?

Then there's his uselessness in D3. Of course, all angels are worthless in D3 so it might be his genes getting in the way of him actually accomplishing something by him self. Cain > Tyrael


PIS/CIS or what have you. If Angels did the most effective things at the time, your hero characters wouldnt have to fight the Legions of the Burning Hells for 3 games.

Kerrigan at least was able to kill billions of human soldiers and civilians for a personal vendetta.


Well that was with her Swarm to be fair, which she wont have in this.

In conclusion Tyrael wins if this contest was to stand around to look pretty, but gets decapitated by a jealous Kerrigan

So you're saying Kerrigan would be moving too fast for Tyrael to react to?
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lets compare sc2 player apm with d3 apm

kerrigan outplays tyrael
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lets compare sc2 player apm with d3 apm

kerrigan outplays tyrael


Better base this on the games' lore rather than game mechanics.
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So what are Tyrael's combat ability? Nothing so far.
Has Tyrael ever won a fight in his entire life? No.

OP, all you have done is give excuses why Tyrael is not useless but history proves you wrong.

03/25/2013 03:04 AMPosted by Dioblastoise
Well, that's a fail on him when it comes long-term strategy...doesn't really apply to one on one combat.


^ Stupidity applies to everything you do. Doesn't take a psion-mindreader to outthink Tyrael

03/25/2013 03:04 AMPosted by Dioblastoise
Okay, at least some combat implications in this one. Diablo in the body of the Warrior (D1) and Baal in the body of Tal Rasha was able to overcome Tyrael without his sword.


^Wrong, they both assumed their actual form in the fight. Lame excuse.

03/25/2013 03:04 AMPosted by Dioblastoise
Sword of Justice


^This is a joke not even worth mentioning. He swings this for practically 0 damage in D3. He probably has never used it on living begins before. Explains why the loser gets owned every time.

03/25/2013 03:04 AMPosted by Dioblastoise
If Angels did the most effective things at the time, your hero characters wouldnt have to fight the Legions of the Burning Hells for 3 games.


^An entire army of angels couldn't do what a few humans can do. Name one effective thing they did without PC help.

03/25/2013 03:04 AMPosted by Dioblastoise
Well that was with her Swarm to be fair, which she wont have in this.


^Bull!@#$. She is the swarm. Just as Tyrael was a general of the angels. Except Kerrigan actually wins wars. I'm talking about the will power to actually succeed a task as well as a tactical mind here.

So you're saying Kerrigan would be moving too fast for Tyrael to react to?


^NO, im saying design wise Tyrael is better than Kerrigan, but as a fighter Tyrael cant even beat Cain. No contest. How can you not understand that. Kerrigan's only weakness is that she is too emotional (typical Blizzard sexism), but Tyrael is too stupid to exploit that so physically and mentally there's no way that worthless angel can even scratch her. Tyrael will probably run crying to his Barbarian friend for help. Story of his life.
Edited by TheCursed#6888 on 3/25/2013 6:31 AM PDT
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So what are Tyrael's combat ability? Nothing so far.
Has Tyrael ever won a fight in his entire life? No.

OP, all you have done is give excuses why Tyrael is not useless but history proves you wrong.


Okay, apparently you don't know much about Tyrael besides his role as a NPC and his game mechanics.

Check out his lore on wiki and this thread:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8196601566

Also, "She is the swarm"? It's a 1vs1 battle, did you read? There is a difference between Kerrigan on her own and with the actual Swarm to follow her orders. How can you not understand that?

Your posts are just coming off as a rant of how you're pissed off at Tyrael in the games. You talk about Tyrael's history and claim he's never won a fight yet he's been fighting the Burning Hells for eons, and yet prior to D3 none of the Demon armies have made it through the Crystal Arch. If he lost every single skirmish all the angels inferior to him would of fared even worse.
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No you don't understand what it means. "She is the swarm" is not a reference to her army but her will. I'm not ranting because its a fact that:

1. Tyrael is not smart because he gets fooled easily.
2. Tyrael is weak because he lost in every important battle and has never obtained victory
3. Tyrael is a coward because he relies on others to do his work.
4. Tyrael is weak willed because he is incapable of doing what it takes to win

Prior to D3 the angels had Imperious to fight for them, and he beat Tyrael. Tyrael gave the prime-evils immortality. He enabled Diablo to absorb all the evils thus uniting Hell which is what actually lead to heavens fall. His existence actually strengthened his foes indirectly.

The D3 food chain is
Barbarian(other PC)>Leah-diablo>imperious>other evils(includes pre-leah diablo) >adria/cain/khule/magda/other nephalim>Tyrael>lesser angels>lesser demons>cultists>soldiers

The SC food chain is
Kerrigan>Duran(not real name)/Amon>zeratul>jim raynor>xel naga>Nova>protos infantry>zerg infantry> terran infantry>terran civilian(right to bear arms)

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1. Kerrigan is cunning smart but emotional and easily distracted.
2. Kerrigan is not invulnerable but can regenerate quickly and is a powerful psion that can easily shut down peoples mind or control them unless they are psions as well.
3. Kerrigan is willing to kill an entire planets worth to achieve her goals. Naturally she will cheat in a 1 vs 1 fight to gain advantage.
4. Kerrigan has not fully matured her power and as an zerg can evolve indefinitely by consuming other species

No one in their right mind would consider Tyrael a match for Kerrigan. At least pick someone her level such as Leah-diablo. Or maybe you just have a sad crush on Tyrael.

Take note, this is a real angel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer_(DC_Comics)
Edited by TheCursed#6888 on 3/25/2013 11:07 AM PDT
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This match is so uneven, i dont even know where to begin. Why dont we list what Attacks they can use.

Kerrigan
-telepathy(mind reading)
-cloaking
-psi assault/dominate/mindtrick
-psi storm
-psi implosion (1-shot a battlecrusier)
-psi barrier

"By the Second Great War, Kerrigan had gained a psionic implosion ability. She also had very swift regeneration; a wing severed by Zeratul on Ulaan regrew in seconds.[87] By this time, Kerrigan was the most powerful psionic in the universe, powerful enough to hold her own against 27 siege tanks.[129] After gaining Zerus's powers, Kerrigan was even stronger than when she was as the Queen of Blades."

Last time i checked angels in diablo world don't have psi immunity (angels display emotions such as despair, anger, jealousy, acts of betrayal)

Do you still feel the need to list what your angel can do against Kerrigan other than 'swing a sword' and 'run for help'?

If Tyreal uses his trademark 'run away', kerrigan will order her zerg to slaughter and consume every human in the diablo world. Among them accquire the Nephalim gene and the power of magic. Then steal adria's (or any cultist) memory to learn how to open portals to hell. Consume the deamons and create a strain of zerg-deamon hybrid and use their power to open portals to heaven.

HEADSHOT!
Edited by TheCursed#6888 on 3/25/2013 9:12 AM PDT
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I feel as if the favoritism is strong here so im gonna actually weight them based not on who I like better kerrigan has beem heavily described already so we have an idea of what shes capable of
Tyrael apart from the one fight we know of that hes lost has been fighting hell for eons he bested imperius in a one on one fight who could hang with diablo in his prime form (for a time at least )
Also if anyones read the books angels have powers just like the nephalem
Just one example is they freeze time to have a lil chit chat about whether they should wipe man kind out
On the other hand tyraels sword can only cut through those who arent righteous as seen with malthael
So hed lose his only means of "actively" fighting if his blade couldnt cut her
Oh and to the dude who said baal and diablo where in their true forms when they fought tyrael they werent
Edited by darkmatter77#1107 on 11/8/2013 10:07 PM PST
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Well, idk who will win, but now with the "Heroes of the Storm" trailer you can see the two of them fight xD.
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kerrigan. she's an assassin and tyrael is only a support character.
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90 Night Elf Priest
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You guys r !@#$ing idiots.
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Tell me how an immortal can loose please..
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