Diablo® III

The 1 hour Demonic Essence challenge

How many elite packs and goblins can you kill in 1 hour at a given MP?

Let´s find the most efficient way to farm demonic essences through a challenge. This challenge is open for all classes and teams.

Rules:

Run your usual Demonic Essence farming route for exactly one hour. Start your timer upon hitting continue game for the first time. Stop playing when the timer hits 1 hour, even if you´re in the middle of a run. You are allowed to finish off an elite pack that you´re already fighting when you hit the 1 hour mark.

Note that this challenge is based on each player´s honesty about their true result. Even with specified rule adjustments it´s almost impossible to check if a person cheated or not. So let´s all behave like gentlemen, play fair and keep this topic constructive.

It´s in your own interest to post a video of your high score, so that other players will acknowledge your effort. If you run a team strategy, ideally you´d post the point of view of the team "scout", who actually runs through the area and tags elites in case the party utilizes banner teleporting and/or resetting the game to refresh cooldowns.

While playing, keep track of:
-> the number of elite packs and goblins you kill;
-> the number of DEs that you pick up.

Note that actually picking up DEs is required because the main purpose of this challenge is to farm DEs not skip them.

After completing the challenge, post:

1. the total number of elite packs and goblins you killed (this is the most important value)
2. the total number of DEs you actually picked up
3. the MP level and which area(s) you farmed if they´re different than VotA
4. your fully buffed damage vs elites
5. a link to your character profile and the build you used
6. your theoretical average DE gain per hour: multiply number of elite & goblin kills by the DE coefficient
7. additional useful info: strategy, pathing, elite/run breakdown, deaths etc.

Note that it does not matter which MP you farm. People will be listed by their theoretical average DE gain per hour which is calculated by multiplying your elite+goblin kill value by the coefficient in the table below.
theoretical DE drop coefficient per monster power
MP10 = 0.389061369015
MP9 = 0.35369215365
MP8 = 0.3215383215
MP7 = 0.292307565
MP6 = 0.26573415
MP5 = 0.2415765
MP4 = 0.219615
MP3 = 0.19965
MP2 = 0.1815
MP1 = 0.165
MP0 = 0.15

The following overview shows how many elite pack and goblin kills you need on average to expect the listed number of DEs per hour at a chosen MP. For example 90 kills on MP10 should give you on average 35 DEs per hour.
theoretical DE drops per hour per number of elite+goblin kills
DE--30--35--40--45--50--55--60--65--70
---------------------------------------------------------
MP10 78 090 103 116 129 142 155 168 180
MP9 085 099 114 128 142 156 170 184 198
MP8 094 109 125 140 156 172 187 203 218
MP7 103 120 137 154 172 189 206 223 240
MP6 113 132 151 170 189 207 226 245 264
MP5 125 145 166 187 207 228 249 270 290
MP4 137 160 183 205 228 251 274 296 319
MP3 151 176 201 226 251 276 301 326 351
MP2 166 193 221 248 276 304 331 359 386
MP1 182 213 243 273 304 334 364 394 425
MP0 200 234 267 300 334 367 400 434 467


Main Barbarian leaderboard (solo)

1. zapro: 141/MP10 (54.86)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=21#401
2. Chazhang: 183/MP7 (53.49)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=11#212
3. Det0x: 140/MP9 (49.52)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=10#195
4. Tbone: 153/MP8 (49.20)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=13#249
5. YamzBall: 156/MP6 (41.45)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=15#282
6. Dep: 137/MP7 (40.05)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=18#359
7. MannerCookie: 165/MP5 (39.86)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=5#81
8. Llama: 100/MP10 (38.91)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=16#309
9. Nubtro: 109/MP9 (38.55)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=19#361
10. Nived: 117/MP8 (37.62)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=15#288
11. KillerElite: 123/MP7 (35.95)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=1#16
12. kOtic: 118/MP7 (34.49)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=9#167
13. AlNeo: 104/MP8 (33.44)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=8#147
14. RagingKoala: 104/M8 (33.44)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=13#251
15. ColdKnight: 136/MP5 (32.85)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=4#72
16. KevinTSmith: 122/MP7 (32.42)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=9#168
17. Professor: 98/MP8 (31.51)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=8#141
18. BALLER: 104/MP7 (30.40)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=4#80
19. itstylerj: 129/MP3 (25.75)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=9#162
20. Justinlol: 84/MP7 (24.55)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=7#129
21. silverfire: 73/MP8 (23.47)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=2#24

Main leaderboard for other classes (solo)

1. Druin (M): 175/MP7 (51.15)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=19#373
2. dominatus (M): 173/MP7 (50.57)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=20#393
3. DarkCecil13 (M): 184/MP6 (48.90)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=16#303
4. Blud (WD): 143/MP8 (45.98)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=8#150
5. Tangos (M): 157/MP7 (45.89)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=5#90
6. Avoid (W): 120/MP9 (42.44)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=11#204
7. VocaloidNyan (DH): 128/MP8 (41.16)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=11#216
8. Selphious (M): 164/MP5 (39.62)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8569308862?page=2#30
9. Nived (M): 134/MP6 (35.61)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=18#345
10. simplemath (M): 144/MP5 (34.79)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8569308862?page=2#37
11. Impreza (DH): 118/MP7 (34.49)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=10#191
12. Enremeit (W): 114/MP7 (33.32)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=12#234

Main leaderboard for teams

1. Hoxango (M), Mth (WD), Waseem (W), tiitou34 (B): 169/MP10 (65.75)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=18#343
2. Eldiablo (W), Det0x (B), Sin (M), Invis (M): 167/MP10 (64.97)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=15#287
3. Simba (W), Sofake (M), Blud (WD): 122/MP10 (47.47)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=8#143
4. Chazhang (M), Tangos (M): 168/MP6 (44.64)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=1#7

Record runs shorter than 1 hour:

1. Boozor (W), Chazhang (B), Disaznboy (M), KevShien (B): 90/MP10 (65.75)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=11#212
2. Boozor (W), Chazhang (B), Nefaria (W), Tangos (M): 78/MP9 (55.18)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=9#165
3. abend (B): 120/MP8 (38.58)*
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=7#139
4. Jim (B): 102/MP5 (24.64)*
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=4#70

MP10 leaderboard

1. Hoxango (M), Mth (WD), Waseem (W), tiitou34 (B): 169 (65.75)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=18#343
2. Eldiablo (W), Sin (M), Invis (M), Det0x (B): 167 (64.97)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=15#287
3. Hoxango (M), Waseem (W), Mth (WD), tiitou34 (B): 155 (60.30)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=13#247
4. Hoxango (M), Waseem (W), Mth (WD), Akisto (WD): 145 (56.41)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=12#226
5. zapro (B): 141 (54.86)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=21#401
6. Hoxango (M), Waseem (W), Mth (WD), Baraknur (WD): 140 (54.47)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=11#209
7. Det0x (B): 123 (47.85)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=13#250
8. Simba (W), Sofake (M) & Blud (WD): 122 (47.47) http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=8#143
9. Blud (WD): 114 (44.35)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=8#142
10. Det0x (B): 108 (42.02)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=8#153
11. Llama (B): 100 (38.91)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=16#309
12. Nubtro (B): 98 (38.13)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=17#338
13. Llama (B): 96 (37.35)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=16#314
14. dominatus (M): 95 (36.96)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=19#371
15. dominatus (M): 94 (36.57)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=19#369
16. Nubtro (B): 93 (36.18)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=12#237
17. Llama (B): 91 (35.40)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=13#254
18. Det0x (B): 89 (34.63)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716#18
19. Nubtro (B): 89 (34.63)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=12#223
20. Nubtro (B): 86 (33.46)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=11#214
21. Llama: 80 (31.12)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=13#254

MP9 leaderboard

1. Det0x (B): 140 (49.52)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=10#195
2. Det0x (B): 133 (47.04)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=9#173
3. Det0x (B): 132 (46.69)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=9#172
4. Det0x (B): 124 (43.86)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=8#153
5. Avoid (W): 120 (42.44)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=11#204
6. Nubtro: 109 (38.55)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=19#361
7. Det0x (B): 102 (36.08)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=2#35
8. Dep (B): 79 (27.94)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=6#113

MP8 leaderboard

1. Tbone (B): 153 (49.20)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=13#249
2. Blud (WD): 143 (45.98)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=8#150
3. Det0x (B): 143 (45.98)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=8#153
4. VocaloidNyan (DH): 128 (41.16)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=11#216
5. VocaloidNyan (DH): 125 (40.19)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=11#219
6. Det0x (B): 120 (38.58)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=3#59
7. Nived (B): 117 (37.62)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=15#288
8. Dep (B): 117 (37.62)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=17#332
8. Nived (B): 112 (36.01)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=13#246
9. KillerElite (B): 111 (35.69)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716#6
10. Nived (B): 105 (33.76)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=13#244
11. AlNeo (B): 104 (33.44)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=8#146
12. RagingKoala (B): 104 (33.44)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=13#251
13. Professor (B): 98 (31.51)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=8#141
14. RagingKoala (B): 75 (24.12) - Festering/Whimsyshire
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=14#264
15. Dep (B): 74 (23.79)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=6#106
16. silverfire (B): 73 (23.47)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=2#24
17. BALLER (B): 69 (22.18)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=3#51

MP7 leaderboard

1. Chazhang (B): 183 (53.49)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=11#212
2. Druin (M): 175 (51.15)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=19#373
3. dominatus (M): 173 (50.57)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=20#393
4. Chazhang (B): 172 (50.28)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=9#165
5. dominatus (M): 169 (49.40)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=19#372
6. dominatus (M): 168 (49.11)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=18#360
7. dominatus (M): 166 (48.52)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=18#342
8. Tangos (M): 157 (45.89)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=5#90
9. Det0x (B): 148 (43.26)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=6#115
10. Dep (B): 137 (40.05)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=18#359
11. Det0x (B): 136 (39.75)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=5#91
12. Dep (B): 127 (37.12)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=12#227
13. YamzBall (B): 125 (36.54)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=11#220
14. KillerElite (B): 123 (35.95)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716#16
15. kOtic (B): 118 (34.49)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=9#167
16. Impreza (DH): 118 (34.49)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=10#191
17. Dep (B): 117 (34.20)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=9#169
18. Enremeit (W): 114 (33.32)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=12#234
19. Dep (B): 113 (33.03)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=8#151
20. Dep (B): 110 (32.15)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=7#128
21. BALLER (B): 104 (30.40)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=4#80
22. Impreza (DH): 104 (30.40)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=10#184
23. Justinlol (B): 84 (24.55)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=7#129
24. RagingKoala (B): 78 (22.80)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=2#22
25. silverfire (B): 76 (22.21)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=3#45

MP6 leaderboard

1. DarkCecil13 (M): 184 (48.90)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=16#303
2. dominatus (M): 182 (48.36)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=15#284
3. dominatus (M): 181 (48.10)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=13#241
4. dominatus (M): 178 (47.30)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=12#228
5. Chazhang (B): 170 (45.17)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=7#130
6. Chazhang (M) & Tangos (M): 168 (44.64)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716#7
7. Yamzball (B): 156 (41.45)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=15#282
8. MannerCookie (B): 143 (38.00)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=4#75
9. Chazhang (B): 141 (37.47)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=5#95
10. Nived (B): 134 (35.61)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=16#305
11. Nived (M): 134 (35.61)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=18#345
12. KevinTSmith (B): 122 (32.42)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=9#168

MP5 leaderboard

1. dominatus (M): 196 (47.35)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=12#228
2. dominatus (M): 194 (46.87)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=11#210
3. dominatus (M): 194 (46.87)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=11#211
4. dominatus (M): 191 (46.14)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=11#203
5. Druin (M): 168 (40.58)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8569308862?page=1#17
6. MannerCookie (B): 165 (39.86)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=5#81
7. MannerCookie (B): 165 (39.86)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=5#96
8. Selphious (M): 164 (39.62)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8569308862?page=2#30
9. MannerCookie (B): 158 (38.17)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=4#71
10. YamzBall (B): 152 (36.72)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=12#236
11. MannerCookie (B): 151 (36.48)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716#17
12. Chazhang (B): 144 (34.79)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=2#34
13. simplemath (M): 144 (34.79)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8569308862?page=2#37
14. ColdKnight (B): 136 (32.85)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/8568378716?page=4#72

Good luck and have fun everyone!
Edited by Nubtro#2147 on 11/11/2013 8:13 AM PST
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So, lets say people want to do a VOA run. The problem with a VOA run is you don't know where the VOA spawns initially, but once you find it, you can set up the game to start and restart with a portal going to it. Some already have the VOA set up this way while others will need to spend 3-4 minutes running around looking for it. Should VOA location finding be part of the time? Or do you wait until you find it, set up your portal, leave game and then start timer upon "resume game"? Same for setting up Warriors rest for that matter.
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Good question. Of course you set up the game first.

Find VotA or Warrior´s Rest or wherever you usually start your runs, get the checkpoint and start the challenge with the portal to the area. This is the only fair way to compare areas.
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If you start the blood and sand quest it takes about 3 minutes to get to the VOTA and then each time you start the game you will spawn in town with the portal open to VOA.
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04/08/2013 08:16 AMPosted by KillerElite
If you start the blood and sand quest it takes about 3 minutes to get to the VOTA and then each time you start the game you will spawn in town with the portal open to VOA.


Right. That's what I said. 3-4 minutes to get to the VOA and then you can spawn instantly to it.

Just did a mini-run on this. MP3 and Khul's chambers. I can start/stop/run/kill Khul on MP3 in a little under 1 minute. I messed with my skills and such to get it set up just right, but after 15 minutes and 15 kills on MP3, I was at 2 Essence. 60+ Kills per hour should end up with 8. Not going to win any awards for best run, but its a neat little alternative to the standard VOA and Warrior runs.
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I have done this already prior to reading this thread. It was the motivating factor to roll a monk and gear for tempest rush. I have also done this with my monk and with a pitiful 106k dps, my monk is hitting on average 190 elites/hour on mp 2 which happens to be equal to what my barb is currently doing. Not that it has anything to do with this thread......just saying.

I also did this with my barb on mp 7,9,10. For me, mp 8 had the highest theoretical essence / hour.

1. Packs and Goblins - 111
2. Essence drops 36
3. MP 8 VOTA
4. 522306 DPS using BR,OPKS and WOTB (631k with 3 stacks of punish) Numbers do not inlude 3% CC from follower.
5. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KillerElite-1853/hero/1449326 - build is identical to profile skills
Edited by KillerElite#1853 on 4/8/2013 8:35 AM PDT
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I have done this already prior to reading this thread. It was the motivating factor to roll a monk and gear for tempest rush. I have also done this with my monk and with a pitiful 106k dps, my monk is hitting on average 190 elites/hour on mp 2 which happens to be equal to what my barb is currently doing.


Sadly this is why my monk came into existence...

I don't have any barb numbers yet but I'll throw in my monk ones if that adds any value:
1. Packs and Goblins - 168
2. Essence drops - 42 (from me), 45 (from my partner)
3. MP6 VotA dual Monk
4. ~22,000 DPS
5. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#WcVfSk!bcd!cZaZYa as a support monk.
Theoretical of 44.6

I'll try to get some barb numbers out this week... Hopefully I'll have an hr or so to play.
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@Nubtro

Sorry, it looks like I may have started a hijacking of your thread. Perhaps after you collect your data you could start a cross class challenge
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Nice data Nubtro, and you've done pretty well in MP10. I'm tempted to try some marauder's rage/sprint:marathon combo, but I'm just going to start out with my ww/HotA build in MP10 and see where I land tonight. My guess is 25-30.
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oops did not read well. Ignore comment.
Edited by Velkroe#2891 on 4/8/2013 11:03 AM PDT
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1. Packs and Goblins - 111
2. Essence drops 36
3. MP 8 VOTA
4. 522306 DPS using BR,OPKS and WOTB (631k with 3 stacks of punish) Numbers do not inlude 3% CC from follower.
5. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KillerElite-1853/hero/1449326 - build is identical to profile skills

Nice, that´s 35.69 theoretical, better than my 32.29 (MP10). OK I need to create name for it, Theoretical Average Demonic Essence Gain - TADEG. Too long. Maybe just TAG.

Yeah, I guess creating this sort of thread in the general forums could work. Not sure if we can keep up with some of the other classes, but it doesn´t matter. I´ll consider it, depending on whether this one motivates a couple of people to do the challenge.


I don't have any barb numbers yet but I'll throw in my monk ones if that adds any value:
1. Packs and Goblins - 168
2. Essence drops - 42 (from me), 45 (from my partner)
3. MP6 VotA dual Monk
4. ~22,000 DPS
5. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#WcVfSk!bcd!cZaZYa as a support monk.
Theoretical of 44.6
I'll try to get some barb numbers out this week... Hopefully I'll have an hr or so to play.

Well that´s pretty amazing Chazhang, although this challenge is mainly for solo play. You may of course post team results, but they´ll be obviusly better than solo ones. Looking forward to your Barb numbers.

@silverfire: Have fun. Even with a Skorn, I´m very happy with the way I make use of Berserker Rage. Pretty much every Lacerate is boosted as I stop spinning for a split second before using it and "walk" another split second afterwards so that I get to full again and WW snapshots the boost as well. I almost don´t click Battle Rage anymore against packs. I don´t feel like I can make Brawler work as good against elites in VotA, it´s obviously superior when running the crowded A3 areas with Rend.

I am wonder if you might want to standardize this a bit more, especially if the goal is trying to find the best route/method. My understanding and looking the op's data, all elite packs have the same chances of dropping essences. So really the question comes down to what is the highest ratio of mp level to elites killed that should produce the most essences. So maybe instead of necessarily recording essences dropped since rng will be rng, instead people could record simply the number of elites they killed and their mp level. That can then be multiplied by their mp level essence drop coefficient and that would be their score. Obviously the details of their toon are important (at least their dps).

Just a thought.

That is exactly what I have in mind, I thought it was clear with the "theoretical average essence gain" stuff...the most important values are elite kills per hour and MP. The scoreboard will use the TAG values calculated from your elite kills and MP. The other details like build and areas are there for us to see what works the best.

I want you to pick up essences and not just keep running to the next pack to maximize kills as that would give you inaccurate results and an unfair advantage.

Hope to see some results from people who focus on Warrior´s Rest as well, the comparison should be interesting.
Edited by Nubtro#2147 on 4/8/2013 11:09 AM PDT
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I think the results will be skewed. If your goal is to find the best run, then you should create a few runs and have each player execute those runs multiple times and then post their results. That way, you are focusing on the run and not the build. Otherwise, the guy with the most dps is going to have the best results because he can kill the most elites fastest in the highest mp level.
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I think the results will be skewed. If your goal is to find the best run, then you should create a few runs and have each player execute those runs multiple times and then post their results. That way, you are focusing on the run and not the build. Otherwise, the guy with the most dps is going to have the best results because he can kill the most elites fastest in the highest mp level.


I think this is just a little harder to get people on board for. No players are going to have the exact same gear, and I think this is more fun anyway. I for one will enjoy seeing a variety of builds and gear. Perhaps I can find some sort of correlation (like, !@#$tier geared prefer insanity runs or something). This seems more broad and fun, though your idea is definitely good from a pure scientific approach

-Gillars
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Gonna give this a shot, good post, might be able to get on tonight
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Decided to experiment with some different areas. Nothing beats the VOA or Warriors, but a curious option is the Crypt of the Ancients. You can activate BRAWLER as a passive and you are ALWAYS surrounded by 3 or more enemies in there, so the 30% damage is constant. It might take longer to clear it out, but on MP10, its probably one of the most profitable areas in Diablo. You'll have magic weapons knee deep everywhere when you're done. Its also pretty nice for legs, as there is a ton of MP10 trash in there.
Edited by Corgon#1140 on 4/8/2013 1:55 PM PDT
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This was my mp 7 run results.

1. 123
2. 34
3. MP 7 VOTA
4. 522306 DPS using BR,OPKS and WOTB (631k with 3 stacks of punish) Numbers do not inlude 3% CC from follower.
5. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KillerElite-1853/hero/1449326 - build is identical to profile skills

This was very similar to my mp 8 run but I lost WOTB a number of times so I was unable to do any better than my mp 8 run. I was unable to run any lower mp due to one shot killing mp 7 trash.

Another factor would be game load time. My computer is running an i7 990X 6 core processor at 4.5GHz with 12GB of RAM at 1866HZ on two SATA III SSD's in RAID 0. My game load time is so minimal I am usually a full screen away from others that I play in groups with before their client fully loads.
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Did 4x 1 hour runs @ MP5, didn't count elite counts for all runs but here are the vids.

Run #1 - http://www.twitch.tv/mannercookie/c/2127236 (didn't count elite kills, 39 essences)
Run #2 - http://www.twitch.tv/mannercookie/c/2127245 (didn't count elite kills, 39 essences)
Run #3 - http://www.twitch.tv/mannercookie/c/2127258 (didn't count elite kills, 30 essences)
Run #4 - http://www.twitch.tv/mannercookie/c/2127269 (151 elite kills, 32 essences)

Nice thread nubstros

I didn't count the elite in my first 3 trial hours but here's the stats for my 4th.

151 elites @ mp5 = 36.478127

I am quite sure using my build it's possible to break 40 essences per hour @ mp6 or 7.

This is assuming of course with perfect stats and optimization for vota runs.

I think if I pushed my gear setup a bit more I can reach that point, but we'll have to wait and see until I'm free to do another set of hours, maybe on the weekend when I have more free time.

My current gear setup for my build and the the type of run we're trying to maximize efficiency is almost near perfect stats.

I would say 90% of the way there imho.

Looking forward to other people's results!

Cheers
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I did one mp10 run today in pretty glass cannon gear, and i died 3 times so iam not happy with the run. (but the more data the better right)

Gonna try one mp9 tomorrow

1. pack & goblin kills: 89
2. essence drops: 31
3. MP10 Vault of the Assassin
4. buffed damage: 742965.25 dps inventory
5. character - http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Det0x-2856/hero/432203
build - http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#aZURcP!ZYd!bZZYZc

My theoretical average essence gain per hour is 89 * 0.389061369015 = 34.62 essences / hour.
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I think i will be surprised if anyone is able to break the 40/hour mark as the biggest limiting factor looks to be movement speed and maybe not DPS.
Edited by KillerElite#1853 on 4/8/2013 4:32 PM PDT
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04/08/2013 04:29 PMPosted by KillerElite
I think i will be surprised if anyone is able to break the 40/hour mark as the biggest limiting factor looks to be movement speed and maybe not DPS.


takes roughly 2mins to run around the entire vault and tag each elite using my spec.

if I can run at the same speed at even mp6 as MP5 I should break 40, now the question is can I do it at MP7 (I did manage to do a run @mp7 in 2:40s but it was low elite count, didn't count)

edit: it's a matter of dps at this point to be able to kill the elites fast enough to break 40+
Edited by MannerCookie#1362 on 4/8/2013 5:14 PM PDT
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