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The 1 hour Demonic Essence challenge

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Deleted after I watched @MannerCookie's videos. Nice job!
Edited by KillerElite#1853 on 4/9/2013 4:04 AM PDT
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78 elites/gobs
18 essences
MP7 VOTA
buffed DPS: 223-243 (buffed, with brawler) 290 (bash&brawler)
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#ahRUcP!YgZ!bZYZbc <build
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/RagingKoala-1984/hero/9609482 <gear

was predicted to get 22.8 essences, was a bit behind on that one.

I tried a WW/rend of sorts, keeping wrath up was a royal PITA, I lost count of how many times I dropped it.
RNG kicked my butt, had 10 essences at 18 minutes and got a whopping 8 more in the following 42.
DC'd 5 times also, not going to attempt this build for essence farming VOTA elites again >_<
It isnt bad when you kill white mobs as well though.

But there you go, an average joe shmo run results :D
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Anyone try running Frenzy: Vanguard for the 15% movespeed? Been farming VotA with Vanguard for awhile now. Will post results, RL permitting.
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I had really good RNG in MP8 somehow.

73 elites
26 essences
MP8 VOTA
buffed DPS:410K with WotB+OP:KS+brawler (not sure how often it was active)

I'd usually quit the game if/when I dropped wotb. Totally suboptimal everything but it worked okay.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#ZhUQRP!ZgY!YZZZYc



I tried a WW/rend of sorts, keeping wrath up was a royal PITA, I lost count of how many times I dropped it.

Just quit the game when that happens and don't stress over it.
Edited by silverfire#1855 on 4/8/2013 8:09 PM PDT
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a Barb will never get as many DE's as TR monk in VOTA i know because i have both. How ever Barbs are awesome for white packing killing act 3 lvl 2 keep the only way my monk can keep up is by running COTA 1 million times rinse and repeat.

I can average around 35-45 DE's on mp6 act 2 VOTA running a standar Tempest Rush bells build. Genertal crits are around 1mill to 1.5 mill and i always have 100% up time on my spirit.
Edited by Taross#1144 on 4/8/2013 7:57 PM PDT
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I don't think that's the argument though. Monk or DH will destroy barb every time in DE farming VotA because of the map layout. Barbs will lose wrath too much in low MPs, which is more efficient for farming DEs. Both my monk and DH can clear 45-55 DE an hour in VotA, barb can't even come close to that. However, barb gets much better legendary drop rate by farming keeps 2 and killing elites in there usually nets me about 25 an hour + a crap ton of legendaries.
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I am new to monks but I agree with ^. However, I believe you only maintain that efficiency at lower mp levels and a barb excels at higher mp levels. For this reason monks will excel at essence farming but for overall loot and exp, a barb will come out on top. This is not the point but I just wanted to make an argument for the barbs.
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why are you guys talking about monks

it's already wlel known monks/dhs/wizards are faster

ther'es nothing to discuss

look at the title of the thread.
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04/08/2013 08:21 PMPosted by KillerElite
I am new to monks but I agree with ^. However, I believe you only maintain that efficiency at lower mp levels and a barb excels at higher mp levels. For this reason monks will excel at essence farming but for overall loot and exp, a barb will come out on top. This is not the point but I just wanted to make an argument for the barbs.


i disagree my monk running COTA act 1 on rinse and repeat nets the same amount of DE's and legends as my barb on act 3 lvl 2 keep. If you look at my gearing both chars are pretty top end i think you need to know and understand both and have the same gear levels to know this.

Agreed Manner i will stop talking about Monks here lol sorry:)
Edited by Taross#1144 on 4/8/2013 8:29 PM PDT
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Thanks for posting your results guys. We already have 5 beside me so I began listing the records.

About other classes. Yep certain others will outperform Barbs in elite kills per hour, there is no discussion needed. All classes have their pros and cons. But if you want, you may post the results of other classes and also team runs (like Chazhang did), I´ll list them separately. Added a note at the beginning of the first post.

Again, you´re allowed to post whatever result you get, but follow the rules. Please no "I can get 45 essences with my XY" without listing the elite kills and other data, without actually doing the challenge.

Hope to see more people try this. Have fun.
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Looking forward to this one.
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@Nubtro

Again, sorry for hijacking your thread and this is the last thing I am going to say off topic.

How dare you be so bold as to say


If you look at my gearing both chars are pretty top end i think you need to know and understand both and have the same gear levels to know this.


First, pick either my barb or my wiz and either character has more elite kills than your entire account. Your barb is not high end. Your tDPS is only 1.62m with a paper DPS of 233k. One of us does not understand how WW works and it is not me. Second, your claim that your TR monk on mp 1 does the same as your barb in keep depths 2 further shows that you are the one who lacks understanding.

Just to further my argument here is a video of one VOTA runs with my TR monk on mp 2 with 106k DPS. In this video, I kill one elite every 17 seconds. Please feel free to beat that with your barb on keep depths 2. I highly doubt it will happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8vVJG7tFeo

Again, @Nubtro, very sorry but getting callled out publicly for not 'understanding' or having 'the same gear levels' as @Taross really bothered me this morning.
Edited by KillerElite#1853 on 4/10/2013 3:24 AM PDT
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Thx for sharing info. I am running the exact same build as Raging Koala so I am interested in what he can do with it. I like rending the trash too but maybe not the most efficient for DEs on a timer. Since I am in Danang, VN I will never have the internet quality to make a serious attempt at this...rubberband..rubberband..fury gone :(.
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So I went back to the classic "Exploit" WT/HotA build for this:

144 Elites
32 DEs
MP5 VotA
Buffed DPS: 318k (My gear is totally not optimized for this since I'm normally a trash farmer)
Build: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#fZPURX!fZY!bZcZYY
Gear: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Chazhang-1745/hero/30587426
Short sample video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A5KqPyFykA
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I did one mp10 run today in pretty glass cannon gear, and i died 3 times so iam not happy with the run. (but the more data the better right)

Gonna try one mp9 tomorrow

1. pack & goblin kills: 89
2. essence drops: 31
3. MP10 Vault of the Assassin
4. buffed damage: 742965.25 dps inventory
5. character - http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Det0x-2856/hero/432203
build - http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#aZURcP!ZYd!bZZYZc

My theoretical average essence gain per hour is 89 * 0.389061369015 = 34.62 essences / hour.


As promised, my mp 9 run.. (only 1 death this time)

1. pack & goblin kills: 102
2. essence drops: 35
3. MP9 Vault of the Assassin
4. buffed damage: 742965.25 dps inventory
5. character - http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Det0x-2856/hero/432203
build - http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#aZURcP!ZYd!bZZYZc

My theoretical average essence gain per hour is 102 * 0.35369215365 = 36.07 essences / hour.

I recorded this run also.. (Youtube encoding it right now)

1 hour VotA mp9 run @ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFUJuAinHWY

I gonna continue to drop down in monster power level to see how it affect my score.
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@Det0x

It will probably go up again on mp 8 then level out on mp 7 with a possible drop and anything lower probably won't work at all. At least that is how I found it for me. My run was after about 4 hours of messing around with different mp's to find what was most efficient for me. I might give it another shot tomorrow evening when i have some free time and record the video and post it this time.
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Anyone doing on core of arreat? Lol
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Have we come to the conclusion that Monk: TR, DH: Tac Adv, Wiz: Teleport; are better than barb at farming DE? The only other class that can teleport without a target is Wiz (barbs have leap, after all and can, in fact, "teleport" without wormhole, ofc).

They are better because they put the MP level epeen aside... They have to because they can't match barb tdps; only the 0.1% of other classes can farm MP10 at a decent rate (hyperbole). They farm low levels. The focus for other classes is 100% on maneuverability.

We need to rethink sacred cows (e.g. Wep Master, Ruthless, Punish, Wrath, etc.) and do the same.

Suggestion: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WhPURX!WhY!bZcZYY

Or: http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#WZPURX!WhY!bZcbYY

Or drop Wrath all together and go with another maneuverability / fury gen skill (most Monks drop serenity - breaks CC - for low mp farming). Or something else. Use an IK 5 set and the right skills/passives and we will never run out of fury for the long treks across VotA without an enemy.

Have we come to the conclusion that you must farm mp5+ to be efficient?
Edited by ColdKnight#1158 on 4/9/2013 8:04 PM PDT
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I think we've come to the opposite conclusion; you basically mustn't farm higher than MP7, if that.
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Did a run of MP4 to try it out (obv small sample size of 1 lol) but nonetheless the results were worse than I thought it would be.

VOTA @ MP4
159 Elite Kills

34.918785 Essences per hour.

Slightly modified my build this run too to go more utility like Rolling Thunder instead of Smash.

Also went ravage instead of lacerate.

Video here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TSvz4nAoOk&feature=youtu.be
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