Diablo® III

WotB and Archon - Whack Attack

You blizz nerfers can do what you need,

Barbs been through hard times and always come out stronger.


thats the spirit.
barbs will always be kick butt!. It all depends on how well your going to play them =p!
Finally a person who doesn't just whine.

Cheers!
~~
happy hunting in-game!
Edited by zucchini#1177 on 4/19/2013 5:12 PM PDT
04/19/2013 04:18 PMPosted by BLKDRGN
I have a love hate relationship with Wrath and Archon for that matter. This is a topic that I felt I should at least comment on since it's come up on many occasions. There is no fundamental flaw with having a 2 minute cooldown ability that transforms your character and is really powerful, the problem is when it becomes a forgone conclusion that these AWESOME abilities are up 100% of the time and instead of being excited that they are up you are annoyed when they fall off. We have talked about what if anything we want to do with these abilities in the long term. I will say we have no short term plans to change them but we don't like that they aren't fulfilling their original purpose which is to provide a really awesome button that mixes up the tempo of combat for a small window of time.


So you guys are planning on nerfing WOTB. Why can't you buff everyone else especially the DHs?


because that means theyll actually have to work
Let's keep things in perspective.

1) We don't even know if they'll implement this. They've been talking about adjusting monk's OWE passive for at least 5 patches now, and nothing has happened yet.

2) If they cut the duration, they'll probably buff something else to compensate. No need to panic until we know the exact form of any hypothetical change.

3) If you build your character right, you don't even need wotb to be up 100% of the time. Get more ehp and fight a little more cautiously when wotb is on cooldown. I remember when the game first started and 100% wotb wasn't an option. We fought and persevered and made it work back then and we can do the same going forward. MP10 is kinda a joke right now, so it might be good to have a little challenge again. At least I won't have to skip gems/tomes/rares anymore if this happens.
LOL at players calling for thier own nerf - and then getting it, and then others QQing.

Same thing happened in Wiz, everyone calling for nerf to CM after the APOC change, then getting it, then crys start.


Classes don't suck you moron. "Other classes suck". Get your facts straight. They nerfed the game more than enough and you still want it to be easier. new genre players disgust me. Go play mario.
You obviously need to go back to school and "Buff" up that reading comprehension of urs. lol Where did i say i wanted it to be easier?


Read what you wrote again. You said "classes suck" meaning "game is hard" meaning you want make the game even "easier". WOTB was easy faceroll way for barbs which makes other classes feel inferior. Just the fact that barbs don't even need to read elite affixes is a joke. As I said, the game is as easy as it can be for barbs. All the barbs that are crying are either troll or have crappy gear. I want more tears tho. Don't stop now.
and how would this fix the other classes that are "bad"?
Lol at the idea of barbs being upset about it, or needing to have something else buffed to compensate. Barb WITHOUT WoTB is already a great and powerful class. 100% uptime is just insane. Now they'll just have to actually play the game like other classes most of the time, instead of ignoring elite affixes except for waller, hahahaha
04/19/2013 05:03 PMPosted by Celanian
1) We don't even know if they'll implement this. They've been talking about adjusting monk's OWE passive for at least 5 patches now, and nothing has happened yet.


thats what im saying, you people get upset when they say they MIGHT nerf you LATER?

i read this as "we're not touching your OP ability for a while even though we think its OP."
04/19/2013 05:06 PMPosted by Nived
and how would this fix the other classes that are "bad"?


other classes are fine, and you're not getting a nerf-bat.

what is this, a preemptive whine?
04/19/2013 05:09 PMPosted by Rooder
Lol at the idea of barbs being upset about it, or needing to have something else buffed to compensate. Barb WITHOUT WoTB is already a great and powerful class. 100% uptime is just insane. Now they'll just have to actually play the game like other classes most of the time, instead of ignoring elite affixes except for waller, hahahaha


This. As I said before, all the barbs crying are either trolls or undergeared and know once they lose 100% cc immunity they will suck. Cry more noobs.
04/19/2013 04:18 PMPosted by BLKDRGN
I have a love hate relationship with Wrath and Archon for that matter. This is a topic that I felt I should at least comment on since it's come up on many occasions. There is no fundamental flaw with having a 2 minute cooldown ability that transforms your character and is really powerful, the problem is when it becomes a forgone conclusion that these AWESOME abilities are up 100% of the time and instead of being excited that they are up you are annoyed when they fall off. We have talked about what if anything we want to do with these abilities in the long term. I will say we have no short term plans to change them but we don't like that they aren't fulfilling their original purpose which is to provide a really awesome button that mixes up the tempo of combat for a small window of time.


So you guys are planning on nerfing WOTB. Why can't you buff everyone else especially the DHs?
This

You obviously need to go back to school and "Buff" up that reading comprehension of urs. lol Where did i say i wanted it to be easier?


Read what you wrote again. You said "classes suck" meaning "game is hard" meaning you want make the game even "easier". WOTB was easy faceroll way for barbs which makes other classes feel inferior. Just the fact that barbs don't even need to read elite affixes is a joke. As I said, the game is as easy as it can be for barbs. All the barbs that are crying are either troll or have crappy gear. I want more tears tho. Don't stop now.
I guess i could have worded it better so u could understand what i was saying, This is why other classes need a buff. Why do you think the other classes are so weak compared to the barb? Because people like OP and u called for nerfs which destroyed the Dh, Wiz, and Monk.
04/19/2013 05:11 PMPosted by Borat
other classes are fine

then why are u constantly crying on the barb forums asking for dh's to be buffed.. make up ur mind moron
oh and this is why blue replies are so few and far between (especial one of this stature).

it doesnt matter what they post, a storm of fecal matter will ensue.
04/19/2013 05:12 PMPosted by Nived
then why are u constantly crying on the barb forums asking for dh's to be buffed.. make up ur mind moron


actually i said the game is kinda too easy.

we dont need buffs, i was just asking about balance between classes.

i mean there are probably a bunch of DHs who do want buffs, and i feel for them, but i personally dont need any buffs.
04/19/2013 05:11 PMPosted by DarkSoul
Lol at the idea of barbs being upset about it, or needing to have something else buffed to compensate. Barb WITHOUT WoTB is already a great and powerful class. 100% uptime is just insane. Now they'll just have to actually play the game like other classes most of the time, instead of ignoring elite affixes except for waller, hahahaha


This. As I said before, all the barbs crying are either trolls or undergeared and know once they lose 100% cc immunity they will suck. Cry more noobs.
Go ahead take away the cc immunity thats fine but the other classes will still suck compared to the barb. What people neeed to be asking for is buffs for the other classes
and NIved!!!! check out April, shes really coming along!!!
Barbarian is the strongest class with or without Wrath 100% uptime.

They will probably just change the fury it takes to get back 1 second from 25 to 50 or 100.

It would be harder to keep it up 100% of the time, but still increase the cool down like advertised.
Edited by Apathy#1830 on 4/19/2013 5:16 PM PDT
April killed diablo on nightmare at level 34 like easy peasy, so proud!!!
Barbarian is the strongest class with or without Wrath 100% uptime.

They will probably just change the fury it takes to get back 1 second from 25 to 50 or 100.

It would be harder to keep it up 100% of the time, but still increase the cool down like advertised.
I agree with this i wouldnt mind this nerf. People dont realize that even with a nerf the barb is still way better
Nerf the !@#$ out of WoTB, and buff the %^-* outta call of the ancients =D.
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