Diablo® III

LS is underrated

After simulating results here http://d3cmww.com/cmww.

My current dagger setup has a 379 loh 2.2ls
Average DPS = 2659555.00
(DPS / Character Sheet) Ratio = 8.11
DPS from Wicked Wind = 650186.10 [24.45%]
DPS from Chain Reaction = 815984.20 [30.68%]
DPS from Diamond Shards = 264515.90 [ 9.95%]
DPS from Storm Armor base = 220416.19 [ 8.29%]
DPS from Shocking Aspect = 694117.60 [26.10%]
DPS from weapon attack = 14335.02 [ 0.54%]
Average freeze uptime = 77.33%
Average seconds per Frost Nova cast = 1.28 seconds
Average Frost Nova casts per fight = 23.47
Average seconds per Diamond Skin cast = 1.21 seconds
Average Diamond Skin casts per fight = 24.83
Average Wicked Wind casts per second = 1.79
Average active twisters = 9.45
Average Chain Reaction casts per second = 1.89
Average global cooldown uptime = 92.17%
Average CM procs per second = 9.96 (90.56% from WW)
Average APoC gain per second = 109.52
Average AP spent per second = 100.29
Average Arcane Power = 84.51 (out of max 114)
Average life gain per second = 14767.61 (20.76% from LoH)
For my wand setup

Average DPS = 2575223.80
(DPS / Character Sheet) Ratio = 7.49
DPS from Wicked Wind = 647159.56 [25.13%]
DPS from Chain Reaction = 776773.10 [30.16%]
DPS from Diamond Shards = 249943.36 [ 9.71%]
DPS from Storm Armor base = 225314.19 [ 8.75%]
DPS from Shocking Aspect = 660480.60 [25.65%]
DPS from weapon attack = 15552.55 [ 0.60%]
Average freeze uptime = 76.07%
Average seconds per Frost Nova cast = 1.33 seconds
Average Frost Nova casts per fight = 22.61
Average seconds per Diamond Skin cast = 1.25 seconds
Average Diamond Skin casts per fight = 23.95
Average Wicked Wind casts per second = 1.80
Average active twisters = 9.50
Average Chain Reaction casts per second = 1.82
Average global cooldown uptime = 92.14%
Average CM procs per second = 9.57 (90.78% from WW)
Average APoC gain per second = 105.70
Average AP spent per second = 99.59
Average Arcane Power = 82.38 (out of max 114)
Average life gain per second = 7688.67 (100.00% from LoH)

so actually my dagger setup has more dps and insane life return.

Average life gain per second = 14767.61 (20.76% from LoH) for dagger vs
Average life gain per second = 7688.67 (100.00% from LoH) for wand

TL;DR : 2.2ls is about 80 percent in the first case, so 2.2ls = 4* 379 loh = 1500loh+ @300k dps
gives more options running at lower mit, and you also get better with 3ls
Edited by Void#1872 on 4/12/2013 9:12 AM PDT
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TL:DR plz?

and let me know if you are parting with your AR/LOH tri rare ring. I might just want it. =)
Edited by yodatoy#1838 on 4/12/2013 9:09 AM PDT
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I think d3rawr also calculates LOH vs LS gains.
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Wait a minute. What is your APS dagger vs wand?? Is it a Chant's wand? If so, how are you getting your attack speed with the dagger so close to the wand? I see WW casts per second are 1.79 vs 1.80. How is that possible??

Also, what breakpoints are you at dagger vs wand. Thanks in advance! Very interesting.
Edited by kcbandit#1990 on 4/12/2013 9:17 AM PDT
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Dagger can have up to 1.66 aps, so it's the same as OS Chant.

LS is not underrated, I believe many of us here agree that LS opens many gearing possibilities. People don't use LS, not because they think it's bad, the reason is the availability of LS Daggers. Not many Daggers can match the DPS of Chant set.
Edited by novice#1750 on 4/12/2013 9:18 AM PDT
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@kcbandit

both @2.73 os chant wand with 1179dps and 0.25 and 173 int wand is slightly quicker
dagger is the one on profile
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Don't advertise this. It's gonna make a LS weap harder to get for me. :P
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TL:DR plz?

and let me know if you are parting with your AR/LOH tri rare ring. I might just want it. =)


You know you have a problem when you're willing to pay 1 billion per .01% mit
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04/12/2013 09:19 AMPosted by Patient
Don't advertise this. It's gonna make a LS weap harder to get for me. :P


It's all over the forums before lol I think LS Daggers with IAS CD and OS are worth 1b+ anyway, usually 2b, and they don't appear often. I was searching for one for weeks and then I gave up.
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@yoda , no THE RING is MAI and MAI ONLY

@jellz you got it lol
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04/12/2013 09:21 AMPosted by novice
Don't advertise this. It's gonna make a LS weap harder to get for me. :P


It's all over the forums before lol I think LS Daggers with IAS CD and OS are worth 1b+ anyway, usually 2b, and they don't appear often. I was searching for one for weeks and then I gave up.


I need to start saving. :\
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04/12/2013 09:20 AMPosted by JellzRoc
You know you have a problem when you're willing to pay 1 billion per .01% mit


hoarding is my problem. I should go on that T.V. show from TLC or A&E, "hoarder"...
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yeah in same boat, searched for something like that months ago for weeks not one with over 1000dps poped at the ah.

and counting with how much its gona cost ur probably better off trying to craft it..... someday.....
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I just realize, Void 3/4 rare pieces of yours are crafted lol
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Lol terrible yoda. Shut it down. Your wiz is disgusting already
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more results : no need to hold back on rd packs, i just unleash hell on them from the start
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I havent looked back after going lifesteal dagger...its hard to find a good one but damn its a powerful piece of gear.

I can easily tank mp10 ghom without using diamond skin, thats only lifesteal from wicked wind and explosive blast. if i try it with 1k loh i fail miserably with the same mitigation.

Also it just gives you a free pass to go for dps...because dps=lifesteal, whereas relying on loh theres a limit to how much you can have. the future is lifesteal, until blizz f**ks me over somehow.

aaand...it makes a decent archon too.
Edited by Rouge#2571 on 4/12/2013 11:19 AM PDT
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Good daggers like that are hard to come by.
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I've been running blood magic with glass cannon for a while now. 1.5LS + 1K LOH already gives amazing life returns.
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04/12/2013 11:41 AMPosted by zhouxin
I've been running blood magic with glass cannon for a while now. 1.5LS + 1K LOH already gives amazing life returns.

Agree. I've been doing this for a while too, I'm testing some with Evo and Electrify instead, just because I can take a Maniac with Evo but I can't with GC. Not too sure which I prefer tbh.
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