Diablo® III

Hall of Godly Demon Hunters 2.0 new formula

Link to old thread:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/7200064834#1

Link to calculator:

http://d3calc.p5dev.com/

Ground rules:

1) Everyone gets a Hall score from the formula shown below.

2) All numbers are the raw unbuffed numbers from the diabloprogress site except EHP which is calculated from scratch.

3) The main Hall has 20 members. There are wings for Xbow, Bow, 1H Xbow, PVP, and Honorable Mention. Honorable mention is for DH not on the US servers. All wings have 5 slots. 30,000 is the minimum score to gain entry to a wing except for Honorable Mention which requires 40,000.

The only way that anyone gets into the Hall is by having a higher score than someone already in the Hall which would kick an existing member out of the Hall. The same is true of each Wing unless that Wing isn't full.

4) If you ask for a score, be patient. It may take some time since I'm not always online and viewing the thread.

5) If you want to check your own score, please use Tomaka's very nice web app. http://d3calc.p5dev.com/

You can self-report your own scores in this thread, but I will doublecheck any scores that make the cut before entering names on the list.

6) If you make the list but your score drops in a future calc, you won't be penalized. That way you can change out your gear and try different specs without worries. The exception will be if your score changes by a huge amount such as if you decide to sell your character or at least most of the good gear. It's a bit of a judgement call, but it should be obvious when that occurs.

7) I will add a name to the list only if the person requests it in game or posts a score or request for a score in this thread.

Hall Formula:

1) DPS_score is DPS/1000. This number is multiplied by half the bonus damage to elites.

1a) For PVP, bonus to elites is counted fully.

2) Raw_EHP_score is based on EHP.

EHP up to 500K Score = EHP/10,000
EHP from 500K to 1M = 50 + (EHP-500K)/20,000
EHP from 1M-2M = 75 + (EHP-1M)/40,000
EHP > 2M = 100 + (EHP-2M)/100,000

2a) The above diminishing returns only applies to PVE. For PVP, the EHP score will be EHP/10,000 with no diminishing returns.

2b) Unlike in previous editions of the Hall formula, Rubies in the helm will not be calculated. If you want the EHP, then add an amethyst to the helm. By now, most people have high paragon levels and it's not needed to adjust for this.

2c) EHP is calculated from scratch. Block ehp is reduced by 25% for PVP and Dodge ehp is reduced 25% for PVE and 50% for PVP. Inherent Damage Reduction is 0 for PVE and 30% for PVP.

3) Sustain_score = 1 + Mitigation*(LOH*(APS+1)/2) + Regen + effective_ls) / (HP*EHP_Score*10,000/EHP)

Mitigation = EHP/HP

eff_ls = DPS*ls*(.1 if APS <2, or .2 if APS>=2) Note that this is intended to lower the value of LS for manticore users without penalizing WF users since they already tend to have lower scores. If a manticore user has APS >= 2 and LS, it may be necessary to hand calculate their score.

(Barbs are using a .5 coefficient, but it seems to me that Barbs have more abilities that synergizes with LS whereas DHs tend to depend on Gloom)

Mitigation is in the numerator because sustain becomes more valuable with higher mitigation. HP is in the denominator because there is diminishing returns involved with sustain. Given equal mitigation, sustain is more valuable to someone with lower HP. I'm factoring HP downwards in formula to not penalize people with extremely high EHP since if they don't get credit for it in EHP_score, they shouldn't be penalized the full amount in sustain_score.

3a) For PVP, only Regeneration is factored in. LOH/LS is ignored in PVP formula.

4) Move_score = 1 + Move speed.

It helps both combat and farming. This score is capped at 25%.

5) Paragon_score = 1 + 1% per 2 paragon levels.

5a) Paragon_score is ignored for PVP.

6) Disc_score of:

Max Disc / 2
Hatred Regen * 2
Disc Regen * 15

Take the sum of the above to get the multiplier. So someone with Nats Legacy set with +20 max disc, 1.5 hatred regen, and 2 disc regen would have a multiplier of 43%.

6a) Disc is doubled in value for PVP.

PVE Hall_score = DPS_score * EHP_score * Net_sustain_score * Move_score * Paragon_score * Disc_score

PVP Hall_score = DPS_score * EHP_score * Net_sustain_score * Move_score * Disc_score
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Reserved for Hall members

Main Wing

Kamikaze#6577 83,756 Xbow calculated on 05/18/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/kamikaze-6577/Masamune/19350098

MWM#1406 80,066 Xbow calculated on 05/04/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/mwm-1406/MWM/32295308

Jazzman#1183 73,274 Xbow calculated on 07/02/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/jazzman-1183/demess/30298445

Vãgisil#1781 68,013 Xbow calculated on 05/13/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/v%C3%A3gisil-1781/Lulamdar/8825604

Iria#1342 64,429 Xbow calculated on 06/07/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/iria-1342/Iria/853202

REVRAC#1267 64,341 Xbow calculated on 04/16/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/revrac-1267/Revrac/3316454

Tristan2008#6658 63,836 Xbow calculated on 04/12/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/tristan2008-6658/Karina/6623334

blkdrgn#1658 61,371 Xbow calculated on 04/12/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/blkdrgn-1658/blkdrgn/17681056

Ch3rub84#6434 57,352 Xbow calculated on 04/12/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/ch3rub84-6434/MatiusDeVicz/11308455

Rahan95#2902 55,452 Xbow calculated on 04/24/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/rahan95-2902/Rahan/822554

Chandaddy#1322 54,541 Xbow calculated on 04/12/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/chandaddy-1322/chandaddy/10838748

Slayer#1735 54,433 Xbow calculated on 04/12/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/slayer-1735/ShadowHunter/13858347

BurningJC007#1355 53,647 Xbow calculated on 05/16/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/burningjc007-1355/Barzul/865341

MrKingKock#6768 53,383 Xbow calculated on 04/21/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/mrkingkock-6768/NightHawk/15478385

Trayen#1284 52,384 Xbow calculated on 04/23/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/trayen-1284/Gunslinger/22350053

NightStalker#6841 51,929 Xbow calculated on 04/12/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/nightstalker-6841/NightStalker/26236894

lysergia#1774 50,445 Xbow calculated on 04/15/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/lysergia-1774/lysergia/2114667

MisterCigar#6531 49,955 Xbow calculated on 05/22/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/mistercigar-6531/Athena/23853368

davloh#1574 49,354 Xbow calculated on 04/12/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/davloh-1574/ViviHellkite/11293827

Nurgle#1377 47,871 Xbow calculated on 04/12/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/nurgle-1377/Garro/1393095

Xbow Wing

Kamikaze#6577 83,756 Xbow calculated on 05/18/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/kamikaze-6577/Masamune/19350098

MWM#1406 80,066 Xbow calculated on 05/04/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/mwm-1406/MWM/32295308

Jazzman#1183 73,274 Xbow calculated on 07/02/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/jazzman-1183/demess/30298445

Vãgisil#1781 68,013 Xbow calculated on 05/13/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/v%C3%A3gisil-1781/Lulamdar/8825604

Iria#1342 64,429 Xbow calculated on 06/07/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/iria-1342/Iria/853202

Bow Wing

Aaron#6929 32,096 Bow calculated on 04/13/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/aaron-6929/Snoopy/1314345

Quos#6707 29,191 Bow calculated on 04/12/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/quos-6707/Strike/1018785

1H Xbow Wing

Feline#6575 45,337 1H calculated on 07/04/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/feline-6575/Slinky/6794265

Philos#1386 43,184 1H calculated on 07/07/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/philos-1386/Vendetta/841560

Luula#1402 42,758 1H calculated on 05/17/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/luula-1402/Luula/21941172

Muse#1317 41,096 1H calculated on 04/14/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/muse-1317/Pancake/30080309

imprttysaucy#1284 40,684 1H calculated on 05/18/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/imprttysaucy-1284/imprttysaucy/10821805

PVP Wing

Kamikaze#6577 114,167 Xbow calculated on 05/13/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/kamikaze-6577/Masamune/19350098

MWM#1406 102,214 calculated on 04/15/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/mwm-1406/MWM/32295308

REVRAC#1267 101,246 calculated on 04/13/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/revrac-1267/Revrac/3316454

Iria#1342 84,839 calculated on 04/19/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/iria-1342/Iria/853202

Shdwflare#1288 71,425 calculated on 04/17/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/shdwflare-1288/Lizzy/8335464

blkdrgn#1658 68,615 calculated on 04/12/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/blkdrgn-1658/blkdrgn/17681056

ThePwet#6321 53,944 calculated on 04/15/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/thepwet-6321/JoCunningIre/21675898

BurningJC007#1355 53,156 calculated on 04/13/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/burningjc007-1355/Barzul/865341

lysergia#1774 52,644 calculated on 04/14/13
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/lysergia-1774/lysergia/2114667
Edited by Celanian#1548 on 7/7/2013 7:18 PM PDT
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Please don't use the calculator yet. Still a couple of bugs.
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Can I get my dh ranked when bugs are fixed please?
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Ok, calc is working now.

We need to rebuild the Bow and 1H Xbow wings. It appears some people either sold their stuff or moved to manticore since the last time they were calculated.

If anyone wants to be placed in the PVP wing, please put on your PVP gear and run the calc. I will put 10 people in that wing.
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Hall Score 22,840.47
Bow Wing

I'll get there one day.....
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xbow

PvE PvP
Hall Score 46,260.53 48,731.73
DPS Score 361.15 361.15
EHP Score 64.54 101.77
Sustain Score 1.04 1.04
Move Score 1.24 1.24
Paragon Score 1.50 0
Misc Score 1.02 1.02
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1 handed xbow

Pve score = 37,708.86
Pvp score = 35,592.95

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/crymore-1597/Siluro/908342

Damn upgrades so expensive gotta get to the 40k score, ill be bumped out shortly.
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Ahhh

Ok pvp score is wearing my pve gear, i can up that
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EHP is now calculated from scratch. Can you elaborate?. Using "D3rawr" and "rubensayshi" I get very different figures. And of course DP gives a different figure as well.
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Below is with my PVP gear on. How come Paragon level is ignored? Having 300 extra dex for dodge % and 200 vit will surely help with PVP. Also with my PVE gear, my PVP score is way higher than with my PVP gear. I tell you that my legacy Nat gear is 4 times better than my PVE. My PVP gear has an SOJ with cold and -impale. My chest also has -impale. 40 disc legacy Nats is way better than 30 disc non legacy.

PVP Gear

Hall Score 35,152.06 46,450.53
DPS Score 195.22 220.69
EHP Score 73.57 128.95
Sustain Score 1.06 1.06
Move Score 1.12 1.12
Paragon Score 1.50 0
Misc Score 1.37 1.37

PVE Gear

Hall Score 61,370.95 68,614.58
DPS Score 415.96 415.96
EHP Score 72.46 121.68
Sustain Score 1.07 1.07
Move Score 1.24 1.24
Paragon Score 1.50 0
Misc Score 1.03 1.03
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1 handed xbow

PvE
Hall Score : 39,710.52,
DPS Score: 277.29
EHP Score: 62.30
Sustain Score: 1.43
Move Score: 1.24
Paragon Score: 1.23
Misc Score: 1.05
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2 hand Bow

PvE

Hall Score 32,096.31
DPS Score 294.83
EHP Score 52.82
Sustain Score 1.12
Move Score 1.24
Paragon Score 1.45
Misc Score 1.02

http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/aaron-6929/Snoopy/1314345
Edited by Aaron#6929 on 4/13/2013 5:54 AM PDT
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@Jazzman

It would be pretty complicated to explain, but the biggest difference is that the EHP gained strictly from dodge is reduced by 25% for PVE and 50% for PVP.

@Blkdrgn

The 300 dex and 200 vit from paragon levels is already built into your dps and ehp scores. Can you log out in your PVP gear again? There must be a bug in the calculator since disc values should be doubled in PVP calcs but you have the same 1.37 value there.
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pvp-48,771.54
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PvE PvP
Hall Score 46,629.46 53,156.40
DPS Score 352.49 352.49
EHP Score 69.67 115.15
Sustain Score 1.03 1.03
Move Score 1.24 1.24
Paragon Score 1.45 0
Misc Score 1.03 1.0
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whoa i just realized i have the same pvp score in my pve gear as my pvp gear.

that cant be right
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@celanian. Thx for your reply. I appreciate that it's complicated, but without knowing the formula and the weight given different stats its hard to know how to improve. More life bonus amd melee red, I suppose, but what else and how much.
Since we use Tomaka's calculator perhaps he could share the details.
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@celanian. Thx for your reply. I appreciate that it's complicated, but without knowing the formula and the weight given different stats its hard to know how to improve. More life bonus amd melee red, I suppose, but what else and how much.
Since we use Tomaka's calculator perhaps he could share the details.


I'll give an example of your character.

You have:

574 AR
3548 armor
76,831 HP
55.14% dodge
10% melee DR
0% missile DR

Your PVE ehp is as follows:

AR DR = 574/(315+574) = 64.6%

Armor DR = 3548/(3150+3548) = 53.0%

Basic EHP = 76,831/(1-.646)/(1-.53) = 461,065

raw EHP with dodge = 461,065/(1-.5514) = 1,027,787

net ehp after 25% dodge reduction = (1,027,787-461,065)*.75 + 461,065 = 886,106

Final ehp after melee and missile reduction = 886,106*1.05 = 930,412

Note that melee and missile DR is counted only 1/2 each

After diminishing returns, your ehp score = :

50+ (930,412-500,000)/20,000 = 71.52

For PVP, you do the above calcs except you use lvl 60 incoming attacks, 30% inherent damage reduction, and dodge is reduced 50% instead of 25%. Also there is no diminishing returns in pvp. Your ehp score is ehp/10,000.
Edited by Celanian#1548 on 4/13/2013 3:09 PM PDT
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PVP Score

Hall Score 76,595.74
DPS Score 261.04
EHP Score 156.14
Sustain Score 1.10
Move Score 1.12
Paragon Score 0
Misc Score 1.53
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