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Pie hole, should I ask Jaetch if I should use a ruby or emerald in my weap?
Pie,
Thanks for the guide, it helped me out a lot. What do you recommend for my next upgrade for increased dps? Thanks again.
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Pie,
Thanks for the guide, it helped me out a lot. What do you recommend for my next upgrade for increased dps? Thanks again.


Heya spokey. Glad you enjoyed the guide. I could give recommendations for DPS increases but I think you would have problems handling higher MP's with the low mitigation. I'd probably suggest AR on lacunis and more AR on some of your other gear...before adding DPS. DPS will mainly come from getting trifecta-AR gloves and maybe adding CD to your rings. Also, you only have one source of LoH.....and that might be ok at lower MP's, especially running at 3.01 which gives better LoH returns....but enemies hit harder at higher MP's, so you ought to get a second one.
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09/26/2013 12:00 PMPosted by Melkor
Pie hole, should I ask Jaetch if I should use a ruby or emerald in my weap?


I'd love to hear his answer.
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PieHole,

Thanks for your previous advice.
I have gotten the Nat's Boots + Ring for the 7CC and upgraded my Zuni's Ring to come with IAS.

I am now above the 2.73 BP, exact value is 2.82 in my character details sheet.

I feel stuck in terms of upgrading DPS (120k sheet DPS now) and somehow I think an OS Chant's Will will solve the problem for me. But I think if changing to OS Chant's Will is the answer, it would seem like a total gear overhaul, as I would probably get the much needed IAS from Mempo and Tal's Chest.

Advice? Thanks in advance.
HEy PieHole and all other CM wizzards, I need help with my Chantodo's.

I have two Chantodo's Will, one is with free socket and one is with 10% IAS.

When I put this one with free socket, I'm at 2,82 but with another one (that with 10% IAS) I'm at 3,04.

Problem is because Chatodo's with free socket give me 100 CHD and 19700 + more damage then that with 10% IAS.

Here's screenshots of that gear and my all stats with each Chantodo's:

1. Chantodo's Will with free socket

http://goo.gl/uZDra7

http://goo.gl/tOvTVp

2. Chantodo's Will with 10% IAS

http://goo.gl/CPBqCO

http://goo.gl/RJRY24

My skills:

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#VQXhYT!gWb!Yaaccc

Please help because I don't know what do to now and which Chatodo's Will to pu on my wizzard.

Dunno what's better, higher breakpoint or higher damage and CHD.

My latency are around 90-100 ms.

TNX again!
Hi, really nice guide and probably makes me realise I am not on the good path:) - or on an 'alternative' one at least:) so just let me know if this is not the right place...

anyways, just restarted with my wiz and I am actually using conflagration, meteor shower and time warp. Meteor shower adds a lot of fun imo once u can spam meteors like no tomorrow. I did not see a lot of comments on this build.

Mine is with storm crow and lacuni, 1700 loh & 29 APOC :), 2.77as and 58%cc, mitigation a bit low at 83.33% with life @ 46k.

Cant this be higher dps than typical sns cm wiz? Especially on mobs? Is it the problem that on single target u cannot really use the meteor that well? Any advice is appreciated on my gear too...

thx

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Edited by naib#2316 on 9/29/2013 3:00 PM PDT
Hello, I have a question about my mitigation/defense. I'm sitting at 47khp, 3399 armor, and 848ar (with a few close to 900) with 874loh. I notice I get chipped away quite easily and the bulls in FoM take me down 3/4 (mp10), how should I shift my defensive stats around? I think I may be running a bit low on armor. What should I be dropping for more armor? My profile is:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/timoseewho-1824/hero/32474701

Thanks.
Edited by timoseewho#1824 on 9/30/2013 4:43 PM PDT
Hello, I have a question about my mitigation/defense. I'm sitting at 47khp, 3399 armor, and 848ar (with a few close to 900) with 874loh. I notice I get chipped away quite easily and the bulls in FoM take me down 3/4 (mp10), how should I shift my defensive stats around? I think I may be running a bit low on armor. What should I be dropping for more armor? My profile is:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/timoseewho-1824/hero/32474701

Thanks.


When you look at Armor/AR alone, it might not tell you the whole story. While you do have nice eHP, you lack mitigation. Your total damage reduction now is at 86.8% and you should be at 88%.

You could do that by adding more Str/Armor/AR where you can. That SoJ definitely needs to go. Any other ring there could have CC/CD/ASP/AR/INT/VIT, anything that can boost your eHP and Mitigation, while adding more DPS.

I cannot say what is the best way to go. Stacking AR is easier than armor, but less effective after some time. You can buy an AR ring and try to stack str in some pieces like Vile Ward or Lacuni. If you can get 70AR and 110str more you will notice a lot of difference, since you will gain almost 1% mit just with those stats.

Don't forget the int you get on the ring will also help with AR, so you can drop 10AR to 100 int, and if you get one with vit, you get more eHP, so more life after you get hit by those bulls.
Hey Pie great guide thanks for doing it because it showed me how awesome the wiz is. My question is for upgrades, I know my ehp is low and so is my mit and ar but where to increase all of those without hurting my dps greatly is where I am stuck. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
10/01/2013 02:00 AMPosted by AlCol007
Hey Pie great guide thanks for doing it because it showed me how awesome the wiz is. My question is for upgrades, I know my ehp is low and so is my mit and ar but where to increase all of those without hurting my dps greatly is where I am stuck. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

You just gotta look for better versions of everything you have. Any item that has AR under 60 can be upgraded. Any item that has a wasted stat like your WH's +13% GF find can be replaced with armor/Vit/AR.

You can certainly upgrade your rings and amulet. IAS/CC + AR/armor/Vit. You're missing out on a lot there. It all comes down to your budget.

Your Tal's chest is weak on Vit because of that wasted slot. That 35 cold resist could be a Int/Vit roll or armor.

Even though all of these are pretty small, they are expensive.
hello,
i feel like my CM wiz is pretty low on resistances, and i also wanted a confirmation whether now is
the time to go for chantodo set, or not.

I think i should get to 2.73 asap...

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Cloudscraper-2833/hero/7232037

this is my char :)
hello,
i feel like my CM wiz is pretty low on resistances, and i also wanted a confirmation whether now is
the time to go for chantodo set, or not.

I think i should get to 2.73 asap...

http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Cloudscraper-2833/hero/7232037

this is my char :)

You can switch any time really. Switching to Chanto's set should be a pretty good move. What you'll get:

Matching APS of your current dagger.
APoC (inherent on Chanto's Will so you don't need to search for it on your source)
At least 500 Int (both items + set bonus).
IAS from the OH.
7% DR from elites.

All you gotta decide is LS, OS, CD or IAS for the wand (IAS means you will be on 2.73APS without having to change your bracers to Lacunis or your pants to Inna [not recommended]) and Int/Vit on the OH or APoC. Seeing as the wand already has APoC, you don't need it.

Really, there is no reason for you not to change. If you want to hit the 2.73APS break point, I recommend getting a Lacuni Prowler bracer with CC and AR/armor.

If you want more AR, you just gotta find it on gear that doesn't have it, but that will mean your DPS will take a hit.
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09/28/2013 03:54 AMPosted by ChaoticOrb
Advice? Thanks in advance.


You are correct....an OS Chant Will is going to increase your DPS...not sure by how much. But it will. It however will create other problems: you're gonna have to add a CC mempo and, then, and APOC Force. Both of which are expensive as well.

By no means have you topped out. Aimless and I rode IAS Wills all the way to about 250k DPS....then, its got really tough. I'd suggest starting the conversion to an OS will as you approach 200k DPS, but you can do well with IAS up until then.

There's still LOTS of area's of your gear to improve upon:
glove - get ones with maybe 35% CD and 70 AR....but alot of INT
zuni ring - alot more avg damage or double INT
vile wards - can toll up to 300 INT...with 100 VIT and over 100 STR (like mine)
Zuni chest - you can go up to 300 VIT
nice storm crow
not a bad WH
Pants - more AR and more ARmor
boots - not bad, but need to add VIT eventually
ammy - need trifecta here. CD is your largest source of DPS
etc

Keep going...you still have room to grow

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Please help because I don't know what do to now and which Chatodo's Will to pu on my wizzard.

Dunno what's better, higher breakpoint or higher damage and CHD.

My latency are around 90-100 ms.

TNX again!


Hi there! You are in a pretty unique situation. The answer is.....whichever you are more comfortable with. That is the nice thing with simply changing between IAS and OS - you can play at either breakpoint. Playing at 2.73 at higher DPS is going to be better for farming, whereas 3.0 is going to be better for things like ubers, since the freeze is better. You can also play at 3.0 if you are playing a difficult area and need more survivability (since you will get better freeze and better LoH as well). So, there's not right answer...just depends on the situation.

Another thing with your gear. You have 53 attack speed between your ring, gloves, helm, chest, belt, and chant force. with your IAS chant will that is: 1.53*1.78=2.7234 (almost breakpoint). if you get a 9 IAS Chant Force (or a 1.79 Chant Will) then you can be at the 2.73 breakpoint without using a BT Cross -OR- Lacunis! That way, you can use some crafted bracers if you want....or a crafted ammy or rare ammy with just CD and CC and whatever other stats that you need. This is the setup that I used for a long, long time. Like, almost a year, lol.

Now, that being said. I really had a hard time getting over 230 or 240K DPS with my IAS Chant Will....its really tough. I usually tell people that around 200k is where you should think of moving to an OS Will. i stuck with my IAS setup for the longest time becuase i rolled a really nice set of crafted bracers (INT, VIT, AR, Armor, and CC)...so, I stuck it out because of that....had to move on eventually. If you don't have any nice crafted things, then the choice to go OS Will is alot easier.
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09/28/2013 05:46 PMPosted by naib
Cant this be higher dps than typical sns cm wiz?


I'm not really sure. It takes alot of fine tuning to get metors to work well...especially on single targets. I think that SNS will probably still do more DPS, but if you do meteors well, you might get more DPS out of it.

I'm not a meteor expert, but there are on the US forums. Just post a question in the main wizard page and a few guys will jump in to help you out.

Sorry I can't do more for you. Good luck!!
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Mine is with storm crow and lacuni, 1700 loh & 29 APOC :), 2.77as and 58%cc, mitigation a bit low at 83.33% with life @ 46k.

Would've missed this is PieHole didn't reply to it :p

These stats should work for SNS with Meteor. You can also get meteor reduction but with 29APoC and 59CC, you should get by pretty well... just might need to lay down a WW or two to keep a continual pool of AP coming in.

TekkZero recently did some tests and found that Liquefy with SNS out DPS'd standard SNS v 3 targets. The thread is still pretty recent so you should look into it.
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Hello, I have a question about my mitigation/defense. I'm sitting at 47khp, 3399 armor, and 848ar (with a few close to 900) with 874loh. I notice I get chipped away quite easily and the bulls in FoM take me down 3/4 (mp10), how should I shift my defensive stats around? I think I may be running a bit low on armor. What should I be dropping for more armor? My profile is:
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/timoseewho-1824/hero/32474701

Thanks.


Down by 3/4? Congratulations are in order, lol!! At least you survive. My mitigation is low enough that I need to have a full Crystal Shell to survive sometimes. And, actually, its not necessarily just my mitigation as much as my life pool....its a little low.

Basically, you're not doing alot wrong. You are at 87% mit which is a little low, like you suggested. I think that 88% mit is the minimum for MP10 (I'm at 88.3%) with 89% being alot more comfortable.

You can easily add some STR to your vile wards - the lightning res affix means you have a "Wasted" stat there. You also might be able to sacrifice some of your average damage on your amulet for maybe some armor or AR. I know you will be happier getting to 88% mit at least...if not a little more. Getting there is tough...believe me...SC kinda holds you back in that respect. Mempe/APOC Force is going to do worlds of good for your EHP and mit - but its gonna set you back about 6B (i've been considering it (mempo + APOC Force + Nats ring w/LoH). YOu can still eek out aome more AR on your pants and chest. AR on your main hand ring would be good also. You're gonna have to sacrifice something: I'd keep life at no less than 45k (I was happy there, now I'm under that and not as happy)....and sacrifice some DPS to get there.

Good luck!
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10/01/2013 06:50 AMPosted by MrDuMa
The thread is still pretty recent so you should look into it.


Thanks for answering some of these Q's Murderma...I somehow got a little behind, lol.
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