Diablo® III

SG 146Int 5.5%cc -7 dog.. Why GAH cap suxs

I saw skull grasp on gah (ongoing now)

146 int
5.5% cc
-7 dog

yes.. 2nd only to heyguyslol's sg (perfect 6%)

only bid no bo.. bid already at 2b.. so next bid would be 2.1b.. ok I bid 2.1b and voila bid error.

So now I understand why people been complaining bout whoever insert 2b bid first basically won it.

/spit blizz. shame on you :(
Edited by B25HLG#1772 on 5/2/2013 11:19 AM PDT
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You actually might get less than that. They can bid 1902000000 and the next bid would be higher than 2 bil and not go through. Basically they can use the mechanics of the game to save almost 100mil.
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05/02/2013 11:29 AMPosted by Blingazinga
You actually might get less than that. They can bid 1902000000 and the next bid would be higher than 2 bil and not go through. Basically they can use the mechanics of the game to save almost 100mil.


Not entirely correct. You can only save the 100mil if 1.9bil is the current bid. Lets say you do a max bid of 1902000000. The current bid goes up to say... 50mil. Next person comes in and bids 1902000001. Guess what? He won the bid because the current bid would have to be beat by an amount that exceeds the 2b cap. The current bid is what matters. Just an fyi.

Edit: That is also to say that you can realistically expect to pay the 2b if the current bid is not 2b. The first person to bid the 2b will be pushed up to 2b by the second bidder but still win because he bid first.
Edited by unoriginal#1407 on 5/2/2013 11:39 AM PDT
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Bids go up by 5%. I might have the number wrong but they don't have to bid the entire 2 bil.

Edit:
Did out the math 1904761905 will prevent anyone from placing a higher bid and lock it out as a win.
Edited by Blingazinga#1799 on 5/2/2013 11:43 AM PDT
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05/02/2013 11:40 AMPosted by Blingazinga
Bids go up by 5%. I might have the number wrong but they don't have to bid the entire 2 bil.


Correct if and only if, someone bids that same exact amount of money because the current bid may show a number less then 1.902b or w/e the number is. The focus needs to be on the current bid, not what is hidden from player view. I hope that makes sense. It does in my head.

Example
GG Item opening bid: 50mil.
10 seconds after posting Player 1 bids 1.902b
current bid displayed is 52.5mil
10 seconds after posting Player 2 bid 1.903b.
Current bid: 1.903b Player 2 can no longer be out bid and wins the auction.

Example 2
GG item opening bid: 50mil
10 seconds after posting Player 1 bids 1.999b
current bid displayed is 52.5mil
10 seconds after posting Player 2 bid 2b.
Current bid: 2b Player 2 can no longer be out bid and wins the auction.

Example 3:
GG Item opening bid: 50mil.
10 seconds after posting Player 1 bids 2b
current bid displayed is 52.5mil
10 seconds after posting Player 2 bid 2b.
Current bid: 2b Player 1 can no longer be out bid and wins the auction.
Edited by unoriginal#1407 on 5/2/2013 11:45 AM PDT
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05/02/2013 11:29 AMPosted by Blingazinga
You actually might get less than that. They can bid 1902000000 and the next bid would be higher than 2 bil and not go through. Basically they can use the mechanics of the game to save almost 100mil.


Good point.. didnt think of it.. now that makes sense why i have seen plenty of 1.9xx.000.000 bids around..

This is totally silly.. people who put up items on gah worth more than 2b are being ripped off if they dont put buyout and someone bid 19xx.. might as well put 2b bo
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Thanks for correcting me. The math is quite simple, divide 2bil by 1.05 then add 1 gold. The system doesn't allow bidding over the 2bil so the bin becomes irrelevant.
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05/02/2013 11:41 AMPosted by unoriginal
Bids go up by 5%. I might have the number wrong but they don't have to bid the entire 2 bil.


Correct if and only if, someone bids that same exact amount of money because the current bid may show a number less then 1.902b or w/e the number is. The focus needs to be on the current bid, not what is hidden from player view. I hope that makes sense. It does in my head.

Example
GG Item opening bid: 50mil.
10 seconds after posting Player 1 bids 1.902b
current bid displayed is 52.5mil
10 seconds after posting Player 2 bid 1.903b.
Current bid: 1.903b Player 2 can no longer be out bid and wins the auction.

Example 2
GG item opening bid: 50mil
10 seconds after posting Player 1 bids 1.999b
current bid displayed is 52.5mil
10 seconds after posting Player 2 bid 2b.
Current bid: 2b Player 2 can no longer be out bid and wins the auction.

Example 3:
GG Item opening bid: 50mil.
10 seconds after posting Player 1 bids 2b
current bid displayed is 52.5mil
10 seconds after posting Player 2 bid 2b.
Current bid: 2b Player 1 can no longer be out bid and wins the auction.


Hey really nice info.. I'll be sure to copy paste this into my note.. Thanks heaps!
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I look for months for something similar to this, and low and behold it pops up while I'm at work. "Le SIGH"

So who's the lucky dog who won this?
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LOL...sorry to hear that Addicted you missed this again.
no..I wasn't the one who got it.

Well, I don't have a big mouth and I am not expert of anything as u know....

I am not going to tell you that this ring is not the no. 2 ring. (guess you already know that..but...)
i am again not going to tell you that...even heyguyslol's ring is not the ultimate no. 1 ring that max out ur possible paper dps of your 0 dog build. ( i dont know if you already knew that.. since you seem to have a desire for that ring...)

I am an idiot :X

I look for months for something similar to this, and low and behold it pops up while I'm at work. "Le SIGH"

So who's the lucky dog who won this?
Edited by Luffy#1946 on 5/2/2013 2:27 PM PDT
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05/02/2013 11:50 AMPosted by B25HLG
Hey really nice info.. I'll be sure to copy paste this into my note.. Thanks heaps!


Np. Glad I could help.
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LOL...sorry to hear that Addicted you missed this again.
no..I wasn't the one who got it.

Well, I don't have a big mouth and I am not expert of anything as u know....

I am not going to tell you that this ring is not the no. 2 ring. (guess you already know that..but...)
i am again not going to tell you that...even heyguyslol's ring is not the ultimate no. 1 ring that max out ur possible paper dps of your 0 dog build. ( i dont know if you already knew that.. since you seem to have a desire for that ring...)

I am an idiot :X

I look for months for something similar to this, and low and behold it pops up while I'm at work. "Le SIGH"

So who's the lucky dog who won this?


There are currently 4 top high end skull grasp's on the US Server for 0 Dog. Two are crit dmg rings and the other two are crit chance rings. Mine is actually 4th best out of the 4 rings. The first crit dmg ring is 3k more dps than mine, the second is 2k more dps, the 3rd a cc ring which is 500 more dps than mine.

All four rings are very close in dps but those are the numbers in case anyone wanted to know. The reason I have not sought out trying to upgrade to the higher cd rings is because I don't feel its worth it for such a small increase in dps and the dps increase only increases my trash kill dps not my elite kill dps. And in case you didn't know I switch rings during my runs between my skull and soj, skull for killing trash and soj for elites.

Hopefully with the itemization patch there will be more/better skull grasp's to surface giving more players the opportunity to own such a good ring. Its nice to be able to own a rare ring such as the skull grasp that I have but I also hate the fact that most players will nvr have the opportunity to ever own one, that is a huge problem with this game, yes high end items should be rare but not this rare and hopefully with the itemization patch it will be fixed.
Edited by heyguyslol#1302 on 5/2/2013 2:50 PM PDT
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There really shouldn't be 2B gold items. The only reason they exist is because 99.99% of what we get as loot is garbage.

Looking at what the devs have been considering it sounds like they won't be worth 2B for long. If we can add sockets or change properties with the mystic it will turn so much "garbage" into priceless BoA gear. AH flipping will disappear because you can't control that much volume.
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oops...
I thought you were busy in other game...
:X

BTW, I am following your WD trying this...
http://eatgamelive.com/2013/02/05/the-horadric-hamburger-jalapeno-burger/

yum yum...

LOL...sorry to hear that Addicted you missed this again.
no..I wasn't the one who got it.

Well, I don't have a big mouth and I am not expert of anything as u know....

I am not going to tell you that this ring is not the no. 2 ring. (guess you already know that..but...)
i am again not going to tell you that...even heyguyslol's ring is not the ultimate no. 1 ring that max out ur possible paper dps of your 0 dog build. ( i dont know if you already knew that.. since you seem to have a desire for that ring...)

I am an idiot :X



There are currently 4 top high end skull grasp's on the US Server for 0 Dog. Two are crit dmg rings and the other two are crit chance rings. Mine is actually 4th best out of the 4 rings. The first crit dmg ring is 3k more dps than mine, the second is 2k more dps, the 3rd a cc ring which is 500 more dps than mine.

All four rings are very close in dps but those are the numbers in case anyone wanted to know. The reason I have not sought out trying to upgrade to the higher cd rings is because I don't feel its worth it for such a small increase in dps and the dps increase only increases my trash kill dps not my elite kill dps.

Hopefully with the itemization patch there will be more/better skull grasp's to surface giving more players the opportunity to own such a good ring. Its nice to be able to own a rare ring such as the skull grasp that I have but I also hate the fact that most players will nvr have the opportunity to ever own one, that is a huge problem with this game, yes high end items should be rare but not this rare and hopefully with the itemization patch it will be fixed.
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DAM only a 1384 dps bump for me. not worth it.

I would however like to know who is selling this? That person is leaving money on the table as it were. Should have put this on the RMAH for $250 to see what happens. More than likely it would have sold.
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DAM only a 1384 dps bump for me. not worth it.

I would however like to know who is selling this? That person is leaving money on the table as it were. Should have put this on the RMAH for $250 to see what happens. More than likely it would have sold.


/agree

they should have posted it max buyout $250 on RMAH, a 2 billion bid or buyout was a waste. Who ever won that got a steal of a deal.
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05/02/2013 02:55 PMPosted by Glythe
There really shouldn't be 2B gold items. The only reason they exist is because 99.99% of what we get as loot is garbage.


That is pretty much the main reason I'm moving on to Marvel Hero's. I'm sick of farming D3 and not getting any reward, the loot in this game is beyond horrible. The itemization patch is going to have to be something pretty spectacular for me to come back to D3 full time.
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So i found 21 rings with minimum five second reduction for a Three peace set with either CC or CD. (note that a few rings are duped)

Critical Hit Chance
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/24455266
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/21686681
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/25915501
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/30828553
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/25084766
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/31258525
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/21121039
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/30865168

Critical Hit Damage Rings (Note that there is not ONE 50CHD Int ring with any skill on the Americas server)
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/31110074
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/20963998
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/22060365
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/27396045
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/17642658
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/23291829
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/31785702
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/30931711
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/29126892
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/31165444 (My ring)
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/32694918
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/31464928
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/31221338

WTF? How rare is too rare?
Edited by JonkZ#1210 on 5/2/2013 4:09 PM PDT
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So i found 21 rings with minimum five second reduction for a Three peace set with either CC or CD. (note that a few rings are duped)

Critical Hit Chance
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/24455266
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/21686681
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/25915501
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/30828553
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/25084766
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/31258525
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/21121039
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/30865168

Critical Hit Damage Rings (Note that there is not ONE 50CHD Int ring with any skill on the Americas server)
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/31110074
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/20963998
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/22060365
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/27396045
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/17642658
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/23291829
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/31785702
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/30931711
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/29126892
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/31165444 (My ring)
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/32694918
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/31464928
http://www.diabloprogress.com/item/31221338

WTF? How rare is too rare?


not exactly sure what the point of this post was but my point is this if u look at all the rings u just linked and then compare that to the over 1 million player base D3 has that is pretty horrible rng, thats not even 1%.
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There really shouldn't be 2B gold items. The only reason they exist is because 99.99% of what we get as loot is garbage.

Looking at what the devs have been considering it sounds like they won't be worth 2B for long.If we can add sockets or change properties with the mystic it will turn so much "garbage" into priceless BoA gear. AH flipping will disappear because you can't control that much volume.


My fear with this is that they will implement it in such a ridiculous way as to make it not worth using, eg. can only socket whites or can only enchant whites or some other BS like that. They obviously know that adding a socket or being able to enchant would be awesome for the players but just listen to the BS excuses they give for not implementing them, "It would be a chore", like having to craft/ID items one at a time with cooldowns isn't a chore!
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