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I say that having a self found league is a good idea. In fact when Blizz does do ladders I say that they should do them similar to Path of Exiles leagues. Where you would have different types of leagues. Then you could have an option to make a character that would belong to the self found league at character creation. Where the default character would be softcore. At the bottom of the character pages is a button that says league and will say softcore or normal by default. Then clicking the drop down menu you would see the option to choose self found league.
In that league you would not have access to any AH at all. It does not have to have a separate server to do it. Sorry if I cannot come up with all of the details on exactly how it will work.
It's actually very simple.
Create some significator (it doesn't even have to be in game), an 'SF' next to their name, a chest in the character's pic...hell, even the words "self found" under their name when you view their profile.
Anyone who doesn't want/care about this doesn't have to worry about it, but among those who think self found is a mark of distinction/honor, they can tell who is.
I personally don't care, but why should we be bashing those who want to be able to show/see who else shares their style of play? Should we bash anyone who is interested in PVP (or a PVP ladder)? Should we go after anyone who plays a barbarian? Hey, I know...Why don't we attack the ideas of anyone who doesn't agree with us (oh, wait that's what these forums are for, aren't they?).
Sorry, jumped the shark there. My point is...If it doesn't effect the game, or anyone's enjoyment of it, who cares?
Imo Wyatt is on the right track here. No extra mode or ladder that further divides the community is needed, just a big, shiny recognition for the status in the profile, as incentive to keep it that way. As long as there are no big loopholes, like picking up stuff that others drop, I don't care that much how you handle (no) crafting, the separation of gold etc pp. Just make it easy for yourselves, so you can get it done.
if they take the lazy way out and use only "shiny recognition status" you can be 100% assured games will be full of loser griefers dropping unids all over place, making self-found players lose their status.
its really not far fetched, just look at hc griefing with town aggro pk
and how long did it take for blizz to fix this, oh right, they still didnt. this is the stuff that should be patched and fixed within a day, and should not take weeks or months.
hardcore griefing is not a problem.
that's like saying people doing anything you don't personally agree with are a HUGE problem and should be fixed..
people like this are the reason for a vast majority of !@#$ed up %^-* throughout the world.
I'll throw another idea into the mix:
if you want to share with coop players, you could revert to classic "one loot drop for all"
and there would be griefers taking everything even if its not an upgrade just to be a douche.
or barb taking wiz items for his alt wiz char, etc
shared loot drop only works when you play with friends you know well, and even then mistakes happen.
this of course based on "bind to char on pickup" design, no other way to prevent trading and therefor negating the self-found aspect.
I fully support self-found league.
this above explained pretty much of my thoughts.
And to be more constructive:
let there be two different types of self-found leagues. One where you can't even trade with any one else (not even when you drop something on ground-- Make everything account bound.)
The second one you can trade with trade windows but limited it to only once a day and if you want to trade more, you have to pay gold for your tradings but you are not allowed to trade gold at all.)
and also when you drop items on ground, other people can't see or pick them up (prevent 3rd party gold/item sellers ruining the game)
Both have no Auction Houses, of course.
Edited by MisterAjikko#1937 on 6/14/2013 9:49 PM PDT
lol wtf m8?
SelfFound, as in the way you all self founded yourself to this country and kick my ancestors to reservations? Thought you would terminate us all didn't you? Well I am hear to state that I am Native American and very proud.
You should also learn your own rules/legislator
Not your rules? If you tell them to learn their own rules, it'll just be rules that favor them since it's their own rules.
all my characters in EU realm are self-found. I didn't use AH at all :)
Dude what? Because that's what WoW is. Mainly self found, with no trading, financial decision making, or creative gearing options. You just blindly play the game and wear whatever you find. For most people, that's why we QUIT WoW and came here.
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