Diablo® III

5 class challenge - wiz branch

I still need buyers and/or fighters
but need some theory crafters for best group makeup for a group only spending 4 bil including gems

Severinze #1401 has volunteered to help coordinate

Deadlines
Sunday, 21st of July
Team nominations for the Fighters are to be completed
Teams who fail to nominate at least 4 players willing to compete will be assumed not to want to participate. Their 4B gold will be given to the winning team. If this scenario eventuates, I would ask that this gold be used to produce starter sets for new players.

Wednesday, 24th of July
Gold is handed over and gearing commences

Saturday, 3rd of August
Gearing is to be completed.

The Challenge Due Dates

The runs may be made and recorded at any stage after the completion of gearing. However, posts are due on the below dates.

Act I: Tuesday, 6th of August
Act II: Friday, 9th of August
Act III: Monday, 12th of August
Act IV: Friday, 15th of August

by this sunday i need a 6 man team willing to be available for between august 3rd to august 6th
4 mains and 2 alternates is the way i see it

I also think I need 2 to 4 buyers? preferably from different time zones to take advantage of off-peak sniping
Edited by SteelPhantom#1820 on 8/6/2013 8:13 PM PDT
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I am thinking of course
1 cm wiz
1 cyclone strike monk
1 cob wd
and then another heavy hitter either barb/wd/monk (depends on budget)
or does anyone know how to run a snapshot dh?

Note: each team member must be able to record

updated

seperate thread for team roster
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9499810643

wiz gearing
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9499911163

monk gearing
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9499691295

barb/wd
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9499911253#1

some pricing theory
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9499881339#1

finalized gear and price links
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9573278143#1

act 1 recordings
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9572528973?page=1#0

some additional threads where we may have talked about relevent stuff but mainly getting team together to practice/record
http://us.battle.net/d3/en-us/forum/topic/9572777332#1
http://us.battle.net/d3/en-us/forum/topic/9572598374#1
http://us.battle.net/d3/en-us/forum/topic/9560476049#1
http://us.battle.net/d3/en-us/forum/topic/9573548798#1
http://us.battle.net/d3/en-us/forum/topic/9573278558#1
http://us.battle.net/d3/en-us/forum/topic/9572777549#1
Edited by SteelPhantom#1820 on 8/6/2013 8:53 PM PDT
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morpheus original post

AIM

To explore the synergy of skills, builds and classes when some of the forums’ most knowledgeable players are given a challenge to complete within a set budget. Through this Challenge, I am hoping we can all learn from some of our games finest, the thought processes they go through to when selecting characters, builds and purchasing gear to accomplish the Challenge. As such, I would like the majority of discussions to remain in open forum.

I am hoping we can all learn something from each other.

TERMS OF ENGAGEMENT

TEAMS

Each class will provide a team of at least 4 players, who will then complete the 4 stages of the Challenge.

Fighters – these are the 4 players that will use the 4 team characters to complete the Challenges. I will also allow up to 2 reserve Fighters who can fill in this role in the advent that any of the original 4 are not able to fulfill their roles for whatever reason.

Beyond this, each Class may involve as many Theory Crafters and Gearers as they wish.

Team Composition

Each Team is to consist of at least 1 character of their class, and at least 2 characters of 2 other classes.
To qualify for a Class Team either:
1. That Class must be your main by elite kills OR
2. You must have at least 20,000 elite kills in that class

THE CHALLENGE

The Challenges will be broken into 4 stages, with the results due 3 days apart.

Act I: The Ubers
Enter the Festering Woods and kill the 2 elites in the Crypt of the Ancients and the Warrior’s Rest.
Return to Tristram and kill the 6 Ubers.
Time starts on entry into the Festering Woods and ends at the fall of the last Uber.
2 NV are required to be maintained by all team members

Act II: Belial
Enter the Citadel and kill Belial and all his minions
Time starts on entry into the Citadel and ends with the fall of Belial
100% monster and map clear required for this stage.

Act III: Azmodan
Enter the Core of Arreat and kill Azmodan
Times starts as soon as the team arrives at the Core of Arreat Waypoint and ends will the fall of Azmodan
100% monster and map clear required.

Act IV: Diablo
Kill Diablo
Time starts on entry into Diablo’s Lair and ends with the fall of Diablo.

Conditions
No shrines at any time
Deaths will incur a time penalty of 10s, which will be added to the run time.
In maps requiring 100% monster and map clear, failure of strict adherence to this will result in disqualification of that run.
Teams are free to stream or not as they wish. For the purposes of this Challenge however, only posted video evidence will be accepted.
All 4 team members will be required to post their version of the run.
Either prior to the run beginning or after the run is complete, each team member is required to open and scan EVERY item in their inventory, except potions.
The deadline for posts will be set at 12 midnight, American Eastern Standard Time on the nominated day

GEAR

Each team will be given 4B gold to gear their characters.
Within this budget, the teams may spend the gold as they see fit. The gold does not need to be spent evenly across the four characters and alternate gear may be substituted in and out for the various tasks, as long as the budget is not exceeded.
No crafted gear

Purchase Conditions

Photo evidence is required for every gear purchase, both the price and the time.
Teams may purchase via bid or BIN
In the case of BIN items, items cannot be purchased prior to 1’10hrs. This is to prevent teams from posting dummy auctions for team mates. I think with the caliber of the players we are involving, this will not happen anyway but this will remove any doubt.
Gear purchases are only allowed within the specified time period

THE PRIZE

The winning team will be given all 20 gear sets to distribute amongst their community as they see fit.

SCHEDULE (Preliminary)

Sunday, 21st of July
Team nominations for the Fighters are to be completed
Teams who fail to nominate at least 4 players willing to compete will be assumed not to want to participate. Their 4B gold will be given to the winning team. If this scenario eventuates, I would ask that this gold be used to produce starter sets for new players.

Wednesday, 24th of July
Gold is handed over and gearing commences

Saturday, 3rd of August
Gearing is to be completed.

The Challenge Due Dates

The runs may be made and recorded at any stage after the completion of gearing. However, posts are due on the below dates.

Act I: Tuesday, 6th of August
Act II: Friday, 9th of August
Act III: Monday, 12th of August
Act IV: Friday, 15th of August
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I'll volunteer again. My only (real) character is a 100 wiz. I live in San Diego so have very good pings all the time. Won't get butt hurt if you don't choose me. Good luck!
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need 2 wiz ( 2of each main class by rules)

i'll be a buyer
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Team Composition

Each Team is to consist of at least 1 character of their class, and at least 2 characters of 2 other classes.
To qualify for a Class Team either:
1. That Class must be your main by elite kills OR
2. You must have at least 20,000 elite kills in that class

can be 1 wiz.
plus i dont think theres a wiz spec thats cheap and good enough to fit in the team other than the mandatory cm wiz
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true, i guess 1 wiz, 1 monk 1 barb 1 wd or 1 wiz 1 monk 2barb as they all include a boss fight
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07/18/2013 04:04 PMPosted by JoeMammy
I'll volunteer again. My only (real) character is a 100 wiz. I live in San Diego so have very good pings all the time. Won't get butt hurt if you don't choose me. Good luck!


sounds good to me, but do u have the ability to record and have u tested it during a group run?
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I was thinking about that. ... Does the 4b have to be split evenly amongst the 4 members? Because it might make sense to have the wiz be undergeared just to provide freeze/bubble/CB/Conflag/whatever, while the other 3 spend more of the total 4b to give a higher dps.
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07/18/2013 04:10 PMPosted by SteelPhantom
I'll volunteer again. My only (real) character is a 100 wiz. I live in San Diego so have very good pings all the time. Won't get butt hurt if you don't choose me. Good luck!


sounds good to me, but do u have the ability to record and have u tested it during a group run?


Nope. never done it. Bandicam? I can give it a shot tonight. But I have a pretty beefy computer. Play with all settings on max and never have lag (unless someone else is doing the lagging.)
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07/18/2013 04:10 PMPosted by JoeMammy
I was thinking about that. ... Does the 4b have to be split evenly amongst the 4 members? Because it might make sense to have the wiz be undergeared just to provide freeze/bubble/CB/Conflag/whatever, while the other 3 spend more of the total 4b to give a higher dps.


ive been considering this too, but weve seen void run wonders before with a small budget, but idk yet
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07/18/2013 04:11 PMPosted by JoeMammy


sounds good to me, but do u have the ability to record and have u tested it during a group run?


Nope. never done it. Bandicam? I can give it a shot tonight. But I have a pretty beefy computer. Play with all settings on max and never have lag (unless someone else is doing the lagging.)


once we get some sorta team together well have to get ppl to test it out

also im seriously considering abusing snapshot dh and cob wd in this group as i presume those classes will be doing the same, barb im not sure about as hota is more effective when multiple targets are grouped up for hotas small hitbox
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monk build?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/monk#VaSXgk!XfU!aYcbba

wiz build?
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/wizard#VQXYh!gZb!Ya.cc
undecided on ds rune and armor
emphasizing not dieing by wiz due to death penalty and paltry dps multiplier of wizards

someone link a good cob build plz

and the last place will need to be a tryout i think, im really unsure what class will fit best in slot 4

id like the alternates to be ppl who have played all classes tho just so that we can plug and play em at a moments notice
Edited by SteelPhantom#1820 on 7/18/2013 4:35 PM PDT
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wiz has mediocre dmg compared to other classes

the emphasis is apparently not farming, but the 4 act bosses including ubers. in which barbs are most effective.

wiz can work with a small 200mil-500mil budget to bring the ehp and freeze up

2 pure skorn hota barbs

monk

wd is good, but not ideal for contest for following reasons :

1. for a ~1b budget on most chars, ubers will take long to take down,, but wd can only use bbv and/or panoria every 2 min
2. same for siege on a3 and diablo on a4
3. barbs tend to not die ( and cheap to gear)
i think wiz should wear fw to proc conflag too. but w/o nat set its hard to get a high cc.
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wiz has mediocre dmg compared to other classes

the emphasis is apparently not farming, but the 4 act bosses including ubers. in which barbs are most effective.

wiz can work with a small 200mil-500mil budget to bring the ehp and freeze up

2 pure skorn hota barbs

monk

wd is good, but not ideal for contest for following reasons :

1. for a ~1b budget on most chars, ubers will take long to take down,, but wd can only use bbv and/or panoria every 2 min
2. same for siege on a3 and diablo on a4
3. barbs tend to not die ( and cheap to gear)
i think wiz should wear fw to proc conflag too. but w/o nat set its hard to get a high cc.


i agree with most of this, but i dont like 2 barb b/c it doesnt have a grp dps benefit
which is y im partial to cob wd or snapshot dh
if it wasnt for the fact that time warp can glib ur whole team i would have specced that instead of teleport
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Since the wizzies main job is CC, I think nat's set is essential. Maybe even 2pc nats (hat+ring), 3pc zuni (ring+chest+boots). IAS chant's wand for the APS. But that would necessitate an apoc chant's force, but it wouldn't necessarily have to be a high avg. dmg. one.... *shrug* just kinda brainstorming at this point.
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07/18/2013 04:50 PMPosted by JoeMammy
Since the wizzies main job is CC, I think nat's set is essential. Maybe even 2pc nats (hat+ring), 3pc zuni (ring+chest+boots). IAS chant's wand for the APS. But that would necessitate an apoc chant's force, but it wouldn't necessarily have to be a high avg. dmg. one.... *shrug* just kinda brainstorming at this point.


I'm thinking the same thing. I did some testing on Belial to see how it would go. I'd say go SC with a non APoC Force though to save the budget for the damage dealing classes. It also makes it easier since you get enough LoH from the SC and BT pants and don't have to worry about getting it on jewelry. It won't take much to gear a ~100k 2.73 CM with pretty high mit. I tried about 850AR and 6.6k armor after Prismatic and Crystal Shell and one of the meteors did about 2/3 of my 37k hps. Just bring the life up a bit and 2 meteors should be survivable.
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Hi Phantom

Thank you very much. That all looks great.

As to how you assign the budget, that is purely up to you guys. You can spend 10M on 3 characters and 3.7B on the 4th if you really want. Oh, and even the Barbarians are questioning the viability of 2 Barbs on their team :)
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Hi Phantom

Thank you very much. That all looks great.

As to how you assign the budget, that is purely up to you guys. You can spend 10M on 3 characters and 3.7B on the 4th if you really want. Oh, and even the Barbarians are questioning the viability of 2 Barbs on their team :)


i think it only became a question once snapshotting was allowed, and as i understand nubtro put everything out in the open so everyone is aware what wds and dhs can do now, i do understand voids point tho since barbs are cheap to build
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07/18/2013 04:10 PMPosted by SteelPhantom
sounds good to me, but do u have the ability to record and have u tested it during a group run?


Yes. I can. (for 10 minutes at a time with unregistered version of Bandicam).

Here is the quick 4 man test video I took. No lag whatsoever: http://youtu.be/JUNpPAD59yQ
Edited by JoeMammy#1301 on 7/18/2013 9:48 PM PDT
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