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Ok so im bored today at work .....
This topic will be dedicated to the witch doctors that have worked very hard to make a mp10 viable doc.
These docs should get the recognition they deserve
And once complete a sticky will requested
This will be a version of our own dprogress.
Contact has been made with dprogress to link those to a point system... No response yet
There will be points assigned to your toon based on stats from dprogress or better yet d3up.com
Heres how I think it should scale and am open to ideas and suggestions
I believe we should separate 1h and 2h docs in this
Example build ... Not real :p. made up
60 k life
Armor---------x 20 x 3500 = 70,000 points
All resist------x 100 x 700 = 70,000 points
Life------------x 20 x 60k = 120,000 points
Ehp------------x 20 x 650 k = 1.3 m points
Dps-------------x .5 x 200k= 100k points
If this is stupid idea let know. I know it would be cumbersome to input your own stats at this point
Or if you like it lets put something together here
Please don't post stats yet as I would like the WD community input before we move forward
Idk ... How many do we limit on list top --?
Edited by REAPER666#1553 on 7/30/2013 1:19 PM PDT
Example build unbuffed per dprogress
Could I get a link to this hypothetical WD? Or maybe you were just throwing things together. I think its a great idea, but I have been trying all sorts of different gears with my WD on d3up and I have yet to be able to achieve those stats. I don't think it is possible to have 650k EHP with only 60K life, 700 AR, and 3500 armor, maybe I'm missing something though. I was able to hit the EHP mark but it took 70k life, 900 AR, and 4200 armor. This is a 1H gear set as well. But I don't see that making a big difference in being able to hit those numbers you mentioned.
I was bored as well with the servers down, so maybe I was reading into this too much, but good luck with this and I'll be checking back to see what happens going forward.
EDIT: adding d3up build I mentioned above
Edited by frostyboss#1563 on 7/30/2013 11:53 AM PDT
Yes this idea is totally inane,
however I will participate :) because I too am bored at work.
Two CoB builds:
I put those there because 1 hander and two hander have a big difference for me:
One Handers need horrify FA for reflects damage elites
My two handed build can instead use BBV or Mass Confusion
So to say 'DPS', we all know WDs are all about buffs and real DPS against elites.
It's complicated to calculate that anyways, because you could have 5 stacks of SH, BBV, Mass Confusion, and zero gruesome feast. Then you could get 5 stacks of GF, 5 stacks of SH, BBV still up, mass confusion has two seconds left, and you're restarting CoB to snapshot the damage.
And then zero dogs breaks it all. Zero dogs gets 5 SH, 5 GF, and provoke the pack.
The first hit does 173K DPS, the second hit guarantees PtP is on for 207K DPS, and then GF builds up from there over a variable amount of time, up to 308k DPS. That's without SH. SH brings it up to 378K DPS. BBV is 540k DPS and GF stacks faster. Then MC is 1.2x damage.
So re-doing it:
BBV starts, SH at 5 stacks, GF at zero, first hit is 315k DPS.
Then PtP turns on, 364k DPS.
Then GF starts stacking, up to 540k DPS. Mostly maintaining this as long as BBV is up.
Edited by MCP#1477 on 7/30/2013 11:54 AM PDT
I've absolutely no idea how this can tie up with dprogress, it's not even quantifiable.
Neither is there any achievement to proof that we've cleared MP10 (and Ubers) solo.
The proof will probably be video footage, but then how do you rank? Definitely not by timer, because there's too much RNG involved from Act 1 Quest 1 through Act 4 Diablo.
Dprogress ranking itself is a flawed concept because it does not even bother if the player gets 1-shot by the weakest mob in MP10. Also, "viable" in CotA is not the same as "viable" in Silver Spire, although they are both MP10.
The weightage to Stats is a balancing possibility, but gear is only half the equation. The skill-build is the other variable half, with buffs and reductions all taking place real-time depending on the player's style and preference. You cannot dismiss the skill-builds in the rankings because a set of skills for one player will also become his opportunity cost for not having another combination of skills, which affect the stats and thus the ranking.
Just my 2c.
you must be so bored... lol
you can even start Hall of Mp 10 with all toons ;P
you don't know how to "end" this game?
you have to log out with a mempo and a non-lifesteal high CD echoing fury ;p
Edited by Luffy#1946 on 7/30/2013 11:56 AM PDT
oh..i was talking about dprogress.. ;P
Edited by Luffy#1946 on 7/30/2013 12:06 PM PDT
Also bump for my buddy Jride:
over 1 million EHP with a XP gem in his helm and over 200k DPS
That's someone who can handle all content, even trees.
Gotta chop down those trees with that Skorn Axe.
Edited by MCP#1477 on 7/30/2013 12:55 PM PDT
Or we just change the name to "Hall of Docs"
You guys crack me up luff and Paul Ty for the entertainment while bored at work. Lol
Paul you are right dprogress is flawed to some degree but unbuffed stats will have to come from that or d3up.com. Which IMO is better anyway.
Anyway I don't think we should worry about buffs skill set etc
Players will input their best build and see what points they get
What this does too is puts us in one spot for us to compare, compete and improve if needed
Idk.....Like I said. Bored at work. :p
Btw that was a sample build I just made up totaly not important to this topic other then showing the order of scoring.
Edited by REAPER666#1553 on 7/30/2013 1:01 PM PDT
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