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I Can't Upgrade Anymore...

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spend another 150 DE for amulet today got NONE. Spend at least 200m on crafting all these version 1.07 crafts and now I'm hitting a wall. Maybe I should spend what I have budget for an weapon upgrade as my weapons are old.

I don't think I can upgrade any other piece of my gear and get a 6~10k dps bonus without a billion, which I do not have. So...

What kind of upgrade can I get with 300m?

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/KirusAlufras-1739/hero/26900310

UPDATE: New Nata Reflect with
-4 dex
-4 cd
+30 mmd
+53 vit
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9662236175?page=1#12
Thanks to The47thSen
Edited by KirusAlufras#1739 on 8/15/2013 8:49 PM PDT
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Can't offer much suggestions because I am not familiar with legacy nats or 1H bows, and basically every other slot is crafted...

But 1 thing I see which can be easily improved is the Inna's pants - either a HP boost by getting a high vit one or a DPS boost (but HP drop) by getting a high dex pants.
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u can always upgrade
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08/13/2013 11:41 PMPosted by Skuwak
But 1 thing I see which can be easily improved is the Inna's pants - either a HP boost by getting a high vit one or a DPS boost (but HP drop) by getting a high dex pants.


doesn't inna roll +1?

so each roll can only go up to 130-150? if I get a double perfect roll I might be able to get more dex but there wasn't anything like that last time I checked.
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DPS is 200K ish without SS. Ditch leg nats for new and 2 slot manny with DML. New nats will give DEX bonus cheaper and you can add cc and gem to helm. Run nightstalker to make up for nats swap.
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08/14/2013 08:30 AMPosted by KirusAlufras
so each roll can only go up to 130-150? if I get a double perfect roll I might be able to get more dex but there wasn't anything like that last time I checked.


http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/The47thSen-6728/hero/15895110
You could try looking for something like the one I have, though I don't know the price as it was a hand me down.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/The47thSen-6728/hero/33464798
Or surely there's something like the one I have here but with more AS and dex. I was being cheapo when I bought this, probably not even 5m.

Theoretically, you could still get another 40% CD from your glove/amulet though that's going to take a loooooooong time and a lot of gold. Realistically, you're probably better off getting a better Calamity and Pants. Maybe try looking for a Nat's Reflect with higher avg damage and slightly lesser CD?
Edited by The47thSen#6728 on 8/14/2013 3:22 PM PDT
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08/14/2013 09:04 AMPosted by Down
DPS is 200K ish without SS. Ditch leg nats for new and 2 slot manny with DML. New nats will give DEX bonus cheaper and you can add cc and gem to helm. Run nightstalker to make up for nats swap.

dps is 194k (228+160)
w/ steady 234k (273+192)
w/ shsh+steady 242k (284+200)

If I run Nata's Solace I need 80 discipline, so +10 soj and +10 dml. And it will make this build work better but I stop dual.

08/14/2013 03:18 PMPosted by The47thSen
Theoretically, you could still get another 40% CD from your glove/amulet though that's going to take a loooooooong time and a lot of gold.

This is what I'm trying. Trying to get that 50% into both pieces. Will take a while. Got to utilize my build for fast de farming.

I need a 1321~1342 dps (11aps) calamity with 98~100% cd and 40~50% mark. Kind of hard to get with 300m. I even did unid calamity but had no luck, and now I'm poor because of that...

08/14/2013 03:18 PMPosted by The47thSen
Or surely there's something like the one I have here but with more AS and dex. I was being cheapo when I bought this, probably not even 5m.

What 5m!? I got my for 40m but it was patch 1.05. About the same as yours. Getting more dex is gana kill me. I'm at 26k life if I don't have those vit.

I think I will go for a nata reflection.
Edited by KirusAlufras#1739 on 8/14/2013 4:57 PM PDT
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Any particular reason why you're using nat's slayer?

You can easily get more than 10k DPS by getting rid of the Nat's Slayer and Reflection, and replacing them with some combination of DML/Danetta's Spite/Rare Ring/Unity.

Personally I'd recommend a unity and DML because your life is so low.
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Any particular reason why you're using nat's slayer?



extra 7% cc from dual nat set. Making it a fairly strong off hand bow for DW.
Edited by Killua#1993 on 8/14/2013 5:04 PM PDT
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Any particular reason why you're using nat's slayer?



extra 7% cc from dual nat set. Making it a fairly strong off hand bow for DW.


If CC was what he was after though a DML + Rare ring would still be better...

DML + rare Ring = 16% CC max
Slayer + Reflection = 14% CC max

Not to mention all the damage he's giving up. Is it really worth it?
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08/14/2013 05:01 PMPosted by OhHellzNo
Any particular reason why you're using nat's slayer?

extra 7% cc from dual nat set. Making it a fairly strong off hand bow for DW.

+8% not +7%.
There is a few reason for the choice
cold proc
+11 aps
+190-200 dex

If I get a +11 aps dane spite I don't get the cold or the cc bonus. instead I'm given a +10 dis which should be consider when trading off with damage. With the cc it really makes no difference in dps.

08/14/2013 05:19 PMPosted by OhHellzNo
If CC was what he was after though a DML + Rare ring would still be better...

If I only wanted cc I would go without the L4N. I can get to 75% without shsh and archery. But that is not what I want.

dual-wielding = losing out on skill bonus and therefore hinders game play. Most player don't pick to do so, and I hope it will be changed when we get an update.
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updated ring (nata reflect)
+1966 life
+8886.1 dps
+0.1% protection

if anyone has a similar ring with higher life regeneration I'm willing to trade

dps is now 212333
w/ steady 254800
w/ shsh+steady 265271 (+3% cc) 418850 full shsh

inna is not possible for now, they look like baller gears... for a 5000 dps bonus I need to pay at least 2b. I was looking at
+194 dex
+69 vit
+9% as
Edited by KirusAlufras#1739 on 8/14/2013 9:05 PM PDT
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Love the double nat's set....
Edited by shingO#6442 on 8/15/2013 6:29 PM PDT
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Why not replace Nat's Slayer with a DML? Let's compare:
IAS: 11%on nats+15 for DW, > max 20 on DML.. However you're at 2.65 APS, so you can drop some IAS and still maintain 2.5 BP for RF.
CC: 8% on nats < 10% on DML. Plus you can get RF CC bonus, which buffs your eDPS
Dex/vit - 190 Nats < ~350-700 total.. or you can go with Max Disc.
Damage - should get a big boost since you'll eliminate the low hitting Nats shots.
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Upgrade your gems. That'll be other 15-20k perhaps.
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Hello Kirus,

I suggest you get a new Slayer with 840+ DPS. If your going to go with Slayer, go all out. I still have my old one in my stash. It was one of the best in the world (#4 last time I checked). Your setup has got me to thinking about pairing it with my Calamity, which is almost identical to yours. This will allow me to swap out SoJ for Unity and use 4 pc Nat's.
Edited by RedCell#1728 on 8/15/2013 8:19 PM PDT
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Hi Ragnar

let's be honest here
Me with dml and RF I can stand on 2-3 arcane sentries + plague and what so ever. Elite kill time no matter how bad it gets is under 60 seconds. When I play with the current set up I can still stay on about the same amount of madness in MP10. But when I use a trap build my elites kill time is about 70 seconds, which is what I have on now. I will be dead in 2 seconds if a sentry beam pass over me. So I must step out of the way.

So why not go the easy way? I have this exact same set up when 1.05 hit, I was at 100k dps w/ Archery. I'm now sitting at double of that unbuffed, all thanks to paragons and the boa. Calamity is about the same, this one is about 3% better than my old one. I'm dual-wielding and will continue to support it.
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Kirus,

If I were you, I would be crafting bracers (you could use Vit on them). That amulet you have is killer for DW.
Edited by RedCell#1728 on 8/15/2013 8:29 PM PDT
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08/15/2013 07:31 PMPosted by Djinn
Upgrade your gems. That'll be other 15-20k perhaps.

Let me give you the math
I'm at 253.6k (416.9k) with steady with my best gears
if I get all marquise that is 5x4 = 20 + 20% CD, and translate to 259.8k (418.8)
cost will be 20x7 + 7x2x20 = 420m

I real waste imo.
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Hi Redcell

SoJ is nice, it adds 6% dps, 10 dis and +30% elite, but if you lose 30% dps it should not be slotted. I'm losing about that so I'm did not make a switch to a SoJ. Going back to Nata+Cala as it has been the best setup I have.

My Slayer is 96% perfect, so I don't think I will switch out. I'm also waiting for the new patch. Maybe there will be an update on cold weapons so a newly rolled one will output a higher dps.

If you go with a Slayer you might want it as on the main hand as some of the skill that do proc cold will only roll the effects on the main

imo your calamity is bit better than mine. You have 32% mark. I'm think about going back to my old one as I'm losing too much chance with the mark proc

add a picture for my old bolt pistol from 1.04
http://i.imgur.com/lcaGltb.jpg

08/15/2013 08:26 PMPosted by RedCell
If I were you, I would be crafting bracers (you could use Vit on them). That amulet you have is killer for DW.

If you are looking at the bracer I have right now, I'm using this for the pickup yard. I'm still working on a better bracer with pickup yards.

My best one is 295 dex 72 vit 72 all resist and 5.5 cc
Edited by KirusAlufras#1739 on 8/15/2013 8:44 PM PDT
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