Diablo® III

Hambone, asking about WD build from the Pro's

I figured I'd ask here because we (well, you guy's) rocked that Challenge and rolled a WD in the group. I've never looked at or read about a WD since the start, but then Saturday morning I decided to level a WD to 60 so I had all 5 class's leveled up.

Now my question is what's a good build to run solo or in a group for farming and exp run's? I recall hearing about a Zero Dog build? Maybe? That's about as much as I know lol. So far leveling, all I've been doing is shooting poison darts to get mana regen up, and then holding down fire bats (life steal rune) until everything was dead.

Any help or pointers on what to run or what gear to get would be much appreciated. I do have a couple WD piece's on now and can build off of that maybe? I don't have a huge bank roll ATM, only about 90mil :/

Thanks,
Hambone

Edit: What pant's does the WD roll usually? Inna's?

Oh, and special thanks to CaptainCarl for those 3 nice wep's to use along the way! Those helped out nicely, and I have them in my stash if you want back to help someone else in the future. Was fun running with that new Wiz of your's too, archon wiz does make for a good Power leveler :D
Edited by Hambone07si#1580 on 9/3/2013 4:41 AM PDT
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no huge bank roll, no ZERO DOG!!!
my current build and stuff was real cheap, can you tell by his DPS???? lol
but i am dropping lik 500-600k crits while using slam dance with my zombie bears. i dig my build, its just not super duper fast farming, but it gets you there. a lot of people will sub out zombie bears for plagued bats or fire bats.
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I see you have Inna's pant's on, no vit but some int. Would you recommend some high vit inna's then? I could use the extra vit so I can ditch the shoulder and ammy that has 500+ vit between the 2 for some more dps.
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You can try Fire Bats + Cloud of Bats rune. Pretty much the go-to build nowadays in group play.

Here is one build you can try:

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/witch-doctor#hcdjUQ!TYc!accYab

Adjust according to your play style.

Fire Bats drain a lot of mana if you are on 1 hand + Mojo. You will need decent mana regen to upkeep it. You will also need to drop attack speed on some of your gears as more attack speed drains more mana.

An easy test to see if you have sufficient mana regen will be to channel fire bats in town and time how long it takes to drain all mana. If you are able to channel for over 1 minute (the longer the better), you are pretty much okay.

Basic Gears:
- 4 piece zuni for the set bonus (chest + boots + ring + mojo)
- Visage of Giyua helm for more mana regen

Pants I prefer Depth Diggers with pickup radius for PvE. The one I use for my WD has 291 int, 99 vit and 6 pickup radius.
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Ok, thanks for the input. I'm seeing that Bat's seems to be the way to go now. Is the Cloud of Bats rune better than the Vampire rune? Or is that only if your using a good amount of LS?

Just saw a youtube vid on a mp10 WD build for only 10mil gold. Not the greatest setup, but it was working. I already have 3pc of the 4pc. So I mite try to start there and move up.

Again, thanks for the input.
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Ok, thanks for the input. I'm seeing that Bat's seems to be the way to go now. Is the Cloud of Bats rune better than the Vampire rune? Or is that only if your using a good amount of LS?

Just saw a youtube vid on a mp10 WD build for only 10mil gold. Not the greatest setup, but it was working. I already have 3pc of the 4pc. So I mite try to start there and move up.

Again, thanks for the input.


Here's a recent post I made in the WD forums comparing the 4 big main skills most folks use as WD.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9753945378

Generally, you pick one of those skills, then add Soul Harvest, Spirit Walk, then some damage buffs like Big Bad Voodoo/Slam Dance, Mass Confusion/Paranoia, Hex/Jinx, or defensive buffs Horrify/Frightening Aspect. Most folks go with Gruesome Feast, Grave Injustice, then either a mana passive if you need it or a defensive passive like Jungle Fortitude or Spirit Vessel (both great.)

Let me know if you want any details, I've got pretty decent setups for bats, bears, and dogs.
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Btw Inna's pants on a Witch are generally not the best, usually see rare/Blackthorne/Depth Diggers - then again APS isn't the best stat in the world for a Witch Doc - too much mana drain at high APS.

Most builds now seem to be based on either Plague or Cloud of Bats. I prefer plague myself...but Cloud is stronger if you can deal with the drawbacks.

Its already been said, but 4 pc zuni is a must - don't know if you are on a budget but a good serpent or thing of the deep is a hellva lot cheaper than a good zuni mojo so perhaps consider skipping the Visage.
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Here are my setups for the various skills:

0Dog:
http://d3up.com/b/756999/0dog

Bears:
http://d3up.com/b/859242/carnage-1h

Bats 1h:
http://d3up.com/b/895524/bat-1h

Bats 2h:
http://d3up.com/b/718660/bats

Bats is generally far easier with a skorn, but the end game setup (imho) is 1h with a Tals chest for set fire bonus. This is Cloud of Bats not Plague Bats (CoB is fire.)

Plague bats is pretty much same as CoB build and gear although you probably want to run a skorn regardless since the ramp up time is slow.

Bears I would actually say 1 hander is better because you want massive dps to offset the mana cost (4 piece zuni gives you mana on kill.) That's the easiest way to run it in my experience.

Dogs is pretty inflexible. You pretty much use that gear and that build. dps is misleading (check my thread linked above.)

Gearing-wise, CoB, ZB, and PB are all pretty close. You want the 4 piece zuni and either a skorn, or a mojo. Attack speed is generally hard on any of the builds, but there are skills to help you work around it. This is why skorn is typically easier to gear for.

Dogs is a whole different beast gearing wise. Attack speed is good and you need three dog specific pieces of gear.
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Grats dude!

http://www.overclock.net/t/1194715/congratulations-hambone07si-1-million-f-h
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@ Silben and GunnersDream, thank you both for the input, GD, I will check out your comments in the thread you linked and see what I get from it. Thanks for the details on the different builds.

Not sure if I can go the skorn route on any of my class's, never been a fan really.

@ KJ, LMAO, Nice link there to my first Million on F@H :P .. I've neglected Overclock.net a little since D3 has came out. So much time to put in to keep up on that forum and everyone's PC ?'s..

Update to my WD, I grabbed a few piece's of gear off AH and got me to 128k dps with decent stats so far for a NOOB lol. Just trying to get the feel for things. Gonna try some different builds and see how it goes.

Edit for KJ: Look at this one I pulled from my gallery on OCN.. You mite be jealous XD http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7081/l737.jpg
Edited by Hambone07si#1580 on 9/4/2013 4:47 AM PDT
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09/04/2013 04:14 AMPosted by Hambone07si
Edit for KJ: Look at this one I pulled from my gallery on OCN.. You mite be jealous XD http://img30.imageshack.us/img30/7081/l737.jpg


Pish, i have blue lights in my box, so, whateva!
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HAHAHAH, Ok, here's one for your blue light's :P

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2105/0mem.jpg

Popcorn?
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HAHAHAH, Ok, here's one for your blue light's :P

http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/2105/0mem.jpg

Popcorn?


Pish, but you're ugly

so, whateva!
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Well I played a bit yesterday and had a lot of fun with the WD. I was using my LS echo from my monk for a bit, then I swapped to one of my LS/CD/OS swords and it gave me 5k dps, and 4k HP. My question here now is, what would be the best 1h weapon to choose? I know a lot of WD's are using a Skorn, but that's not my style. I'd rather stick to the 1h/mojo.

I read a bit about APS not being the best because of mana usage, but with my echo @ 1.87 aps or my sword @ 1.73 aps I'm not having any issues channeling Plague of Bats or keeping it going. Is there a WD knife that would be best to use, or just look for a sword like the one equipped but with Int roll over dex? Or would a mace/spear be a better weapon of choice?

Thanks,
Hambone
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buy my wd 0dog stuff.
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I just want to refute the notion that the 4 piece Zuni is a must; it is simply not true. If a nice Pox didn't cost more than my entire setup, I would be using it too. However, I am having no issues at all with mana or survival on MP9. I actually have room to add speed to my build, so I am looking to buy/craft some tri-fecta gloves.

My build is very bugdet friendly and also very effective. The Manajuma's Carving Knife comes with almost everything you could want, but it can be beaten by a high-end rare. If you can find a good, black damage axe, mace, or spear, it can give you the best of worlds, both but those weapons tend to be extremely expensive.
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nobody likes zuni anymore
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Kojin, Thanks but I'm good on your setup.

AZsnowstorm, thanks, I'm looking at getting a MCK for an upgrade but they are expensive with socket and 1000+ dps. Been looking at rares as well. Seems I'll be spending 300mil + at the minimum but should be a sweet setup after that.

WD is more fun than I expected. I always hated when one joined my games because they would clutter up the screen with so much crap, but I'm not using those skills. And now I'm used to my pets and don't go after them like I would with my monk lol.
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hambone, do you need a PWM fan splitter.
I bought one and realized I need a 3 pin splitter, DERP.
I very stupidly thought I could plug a 4 pin and a 3 pin fan into a 4 pin splitter.

It was 6.00 but 8.00 for me to send it back to them, LOL.

I think it's like 79 cents if I just mail it to you...let me know.

haha

http://www.amazon.com/PWM-Y-Splitter-Cable-Adapter/dp/B002OFP6QW/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1378472679&sr=8-3&keywords=pwm+fan+splitter
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I made my wd for less than 150m. I was impatient and bought pretty much everything on bin, you could definitely get something like mine for 100m on bid and bin.
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