Master player, offering TvZ help

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This is an old thread that I'm bumping to offer help for HOTS.

Here are some replays of mine :
http://drop.sc/312642
http://drop.sc/312643
http://drop.sc/312644
http://drop.sc/312645
http://drop.sc/312646
Enjoy and ask questions :D
iv been having alot of fun with bio lately, though i mainly mech. Post a few replays so i check out your strats. I go hellion banshee alot, but id like to see your later game play
In Hots:

I heard Bio + Widow mine is good vs Z.

what is the proper way to play bio + Widow mine against Zerg (micro wise, where do you place...etc) Do you move Widow mine with the army and burrow? or do you lure Z into mine like a baneling trap?
What timing (initial push) to push if you go for this comp?
Does this comp last till Hive tech (after Ultra and Brood are out?)
In Hots:

I heard Bio + Widow mine is good vs Z.

what is the proper way to play bio + Widow mine against Zerg (micro wise, where do you place...etc) Do you move Widow mine with the army and burrow? or do you lure Z into mine like a baneling trap?
What timing (initial push) to push if you go for this comp?
Does this comp last till Hive tech (after Ultra and Brood are out?)


Haha you're one step ahead of me, I can help for WOL for now ;P

EDIT : But I think I can still help you. My master terran friend whose been playing a lot of HOTS recently told me that in a bio + widow mine build what you want to do is be very agressive, the new medivac buff allows you to do that. So what you want to do is some drop harass : widow mine/marines.

And if we go logically, I would send my widow mines ahead of my army ( a couple of them ) as a shield so you drop them down as soon as he engages you. and Ye of course you could abuse the baneling mine tactic to lure them to you. With HOTS you really want to be on the agressive.

As for the broodlord/infestor part, of course widow mines are great, broodlords are slow, but you still wants some vikings to fend off air
Can you throw up a replay? I exclusively use polts hellion marauder into marine tank it's really the only tvz build I can competently perform. I think I am ready to learn a. Extra build per matchup
Let me find some replays , I'll have to start naming them :p
http://drop.sc/308409
http://drop.sc/308411

Et voilà.

First replay is a good example of when everything goes wrong.

My macro isn't perfect either. Working on it.

EDIT : note : in the first replay I rage because the dude was a douchebag :P
I still end up winning the game XD. And I don't believe anything I say about balance afterwards it's only in the spur of the moment, make my opponent mad :P
Thanks joker will watch em when I get home. Don't worry about the bm it happens to the best of us occasionally, I always feel like a moron after and end up messaging them gg wp etc
Lol, me it's part of an act most of the time. But I don't believe what I say. The real thing to consider is : if you're not gm you have room to learn and balance isn't a factor.

And np.
i was expecting bio -_-
03/01/2013 04:05 PMPosted by John
i was expecting bio -_-


I do bio plays too. I could get some down for you.
But tanks are pretty good too, I don't see why you wouldn't want to have some :P

EDIT : I'm a fan of Liquid'Taeja If you want to practice bio it's the right way. He goes fast 4 cc into NO END streams of unit bio play with reinforcement 24/7. That's where I learned to play bio.
can you post a link to that build?

an yea, post a few bio replays. :)
03/01/2013 01:32 PMPosted by JoKeR
EDIT : My favorite TvZ build is fast 3 base on hellion banshee. You just wreck anything with that build.

Love this build as well, do you:
1. Use MVP Dual armory mech or marine-tank?

2. Drill with mech or do you transition to Sky Terran? BCs or Banshees?

My few questions. Personally I go into mech and stop at 5 factories and start adding Starports for the ultra-lategame.
The 4cc build sounds interesting, but how would you get them up without dying to a 2base attack from the zerg. Can you post some replays of that?
Oh, you're still playing Terran.
http://www.teamliquidpro.com/news/2012/05/18/razer-replaypack-of-the-week-35-taeja

This is the replay pack from where I've gotten the build of Taeja's, I'll ladder today and try to get some bio builds down for you guys :P. Also note, Taeja really like's to start any version of his bio build with a cc first. That's like his core.

EDIT : My favorite TvZ build is fast 3 base on hellion banshee. You just wreck anything with that build.

Love this build as well, do you:
1. Use MVP Dual armory mech or marine-tank?
2. Drill with mech or do you transition to Sky Terran? BCs or Banshees?

My few questions. Personally I go into mech and stop at 5 factories and start adding Starports for the ultra-lategame.


I do go in dual armory mech, but I prefer the marine-tank version of the build because it allows you to be more agressive and it's really what you need to beat zerg.
When I play mech It really doesn't get THAT far, the worse scenario I have gotten was to get a couple of vikings to beat broodlords, else I stay on mech and never transition to air.
03/01/2013 06:49 PMPosted by Vattenda
The 4cc build sounds interesting, but how would you get them up without dying to a 2base attack from the zerg. Can you post some replays of that?


It's something like, cc first, 2 rax, cc, 2 rax 2gas, cc, factory,double ebay,starport. I'll have to check the replays again. You put bunkers, and you should be ok, get your scvs ready to repair.

EDIT : And what I forgot is the fact that when you go bio like this, you don't wall with supply depots, you wall with your barracks, banelings can't take them down, if they do they won't kill your marines. roaches are a problem until you make bunkers next to your raxes so you get in range without dieing. So my chances to die with bio, vs going hellion banshee, are very thin.
Replays?
03/04/2013 02:54 PMPosted by Xcon
Replays?


I'm trying to get some more, i have 3 for now... I'm laddering this week and I'll get new ones.
Gonna upload a sick replay tommorow :D. I started off doing an hellion build that he didn't scout at all and that did so-so damage. I ended up winning. He didn't scout at all and defended it.

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