Oct 16, 2012 who had the retarded idea of a bg with orbs? seriously that bg its made from a stupid to stupid peopleBloodydark20 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 Dear Alliance Does it really require more than 6 of you to kill me?Unlockk19 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 Anyone else think PVP has become a cluster F? I've played this game since Vanilla, and I've PVP'd since vanilla. I remember the early days when every class had a handful of abilities and a few cooldowns and it was pretty easy to understand what was going on - sure, rogues and warriors could be a little mashy but it wasn't anything absurd. Each ability mattered, each spell mattered. Now? I have 15 cooldowns on my bar. Every BG fight is just a whirlwhind of crap flying all over the screen. Is this supposed to be fun?Merkimedes4 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 Water Works Roof Defense People are terrain exploiting, getting on the roof of the house that is nearest the waterfall rendering an assult on WW not possible.Infiction2 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 2200+ Exp Elemental Shaman LF RBG The title says it all.Eudien0 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 What am i supposed to do with all this honor? I have overcapped to 4000 honor like 3 times since getting my full honor set and now i have a full transmog sets of wrathful and vengeful. What am is suppose to do now that im at 4k again?Yangaa2 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 Can Healers PLEASE be Tweaked? I'm curious who at Blizzard thought "Hey, let's make healing twice as powerful, damage less effective by increasing resilience significantly, and make interrupts last half as long and have double the cooldown." Snark aside, I really am confused why healing hasn't been addressed at lower levels overall. You guys did it with Penance and Holy Shock -which we are VERY grateful for. Why can't something like that be done for all healing effects at all levels under 90 (gradually scaling up, so at level 10 they're MUCH less effective, and at 85 they're slightly less effective than now). You should not be able to outheal someone's damage by spamming Rejuvenation. For that spell particularly, I think it should not heal instantly unless Resto spec. Casting Healing Touch is one thing, but the instant cast stuff (Power Word Shield, Rejuvenation, Word of Glory, Swiftmend, etc.) is healing absurd amounts at low levels. People can effortlessly outheal 2 players' damage with just instant casts. One dps should be able to kill a healer, unless the healer burns through mana or CCs you and runs away somehow. Should not take an army to kill a healer. The best solutions I can think of are: - Remove baseline Resilience until level 85 or reduce it to 20% or something - Reduce the healing of the Flash Heal spells by roughly 30%, Absorption effects by 20%, and HOTs by 20% (and as I mentioned earlier, have them scale up slowly to be just slightly less effective than they are now at 85-89) - Give PvP Power and resilience on lower level PvP gear (on Brutal Gladiator, Field Marshal/High Warlord, the gear from Arathi, Warsong and Alterac vendors)Zalts4 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 Diminishing Returns should be stronger It's been suggested many times that a good way to fix the excessive CC chains would be to put *ALL* effects that cause complete loss of control of your character on diminishing returns, the same diminishing returns. I think it would take some of the complexity away from PvP with setting up those CC chains, but it would also allow PvP to be a little more fun by increasing the time we can control our characters. I don't really understand why fears, stuns, disorients, polymorphs and all that are on separate diminishing returns. If they were made to be on the same diminishing returns, it would help a lot. An idea is to do the following: 1) Stuns, disorients/blinds, knockdowns, sleeps, incapacitates, and polymorphs, all sharing 1 set of DR. 2) Roots and silences should share a 2nd set of DR.Dekkar0 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 How to level through PvP without heirlooms? First character in a new realm. Nowadays it seems close to impossible to level enjoyably through PvP without heirlooms. Simply put, aside from utilities, in the lower brackets you get nothing. Let's hope it changes a little with PvP gear a few levels from now... Side note: My main is an Ele/Resto shaman. I've finally found a similar description for the state of Elemental in PvP that anybody can understand. :(Miwata13 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 Rogues are just fine. All you have to do is scream: Part two: Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 The sad state level 10-89 of battlegrounds. video link -> So here I am, level 85. I will say, with statistical data that I've collected -- that 40% of all games I've been in since hitting level 80 are chock-full of bots. These bots seem programmed to go from node to node, and to "engage" enemy players. In fact, in some games I'm able to get our team to remove them. In other games, there aren't enough non-bot players to remove the botters. When will Blizzard take a stance against this? On a lighter note: I watched two of these bots try to kill eachother. It was easily the most hilarious thing of all time.Lolgit23 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 How Do DKs Top Dmg All The Time? I'm always confused when I look at the score chart and always see a DK topping damage even though they have a terrible kill-death ratio. Most of the time it's something like 3 kills 4 deaths. When we fight (the very same dks who are topping damage mind you) they deal almost no damage and while they are very survivable I can eventually manage to bring them down. So how are they doing it? I would say about 80% of the bgs I'm in are topped by dks. Keep in mind I know almost nothing about their class mechanics except for their defensive abilities and gap closers.Silvenon32 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 2600 dk LF rated bg group! ^^^ Tittle says it ! Contact me in game Blakeqt#1516Blakeqt0 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 Season 12 Pally PvP Gear Model Swapped? This might sound a bit silly, but I was wondering if anyone else thought the Paladin PvP gear models are swapped? Usually Prot and Ret get the Chest pieces as, well, Chest pieces and Holy gets a Gown like chest piece but they are the opposite in season 12. Definitely not complaining because with transmog who cares anyway I was just genuinely wondering if they had the wrong models. ThanksAshokara2 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 Honor Trade Vendor When will they update this to Pandaria stuff? I dont know what to do with my honor :(Snizblast2 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 Noggenfogger - Beneficial magic effect? Apparently spellsteal would rather take Noggenfogger elixir over anything else...had no idea it was a "beneficial magical effect" in battlegrounds.Gazka2 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 A message to Alliance DPS... Ok, guys I know this maybe hard for some of you to understand. I'll do my best to explain it as easily as possible. When we have a match with with two healers on Alliance side, and three healers on horde side. If our healers are in the top two spots by leaps and bounds, and we have 1-2 dps total in the top 6-7 it's NOT the healers fault, nor the horde's fault for having one extra healer! I don't know how many times I can explain this. Please quit trying to pull the "Horde have one more healer and healing is so OP it's the only reason we are losing now" card when I watch 4+ dps hitting one healer (with that healer having no support) and still easily tanking you. Ps. If I Cyclone/Disorient a person it means I'm trying to CC them so you can kill a higher priority target nine out of ten times. One out of ten times it is to prevent heals on a low health high priority target until we can do something with said healer. Anyways...don't stand there like idiots bashing at my targets in clones for the duration of all three clones -.- When 4+ of you do this while ignoring everything else going on and just stand there hitting that cyclone while every other horde are targeting your healer/flag carrier/capping your node, or even just hitting you, please do something other than watch the text "immune" fly up time, after time, after time. Edit: This won't apply to all of you. I do have some good games with Alliance pugs that beat Horde pre-mades. I never have close games though. It's either win games by a mile with good players, or lose them badly with said events above happening. If you are losing frequently then yes this probably applies to you.Kurain15 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 2.2kexp hpally lf high rated rbg team marshal holy pala CR 2030 battle id valkyrieslol#1666Valkyriex0 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 [A] 2600 arena/ 2300 RBG ele sham LF 2400+ Looking for a decent RBG group to get my 2400 achieve and a higher conquest cap.Senpai1 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 2k current hpally lf RBGS tonight add me grimm#1897Ticeon0 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 FFS fix hybrid healing Why is it okay that a Spriest can heal for as much as a resto shammy in a bg and still put out the 2nd highest damage? Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 LFM RBG's Forming an RBG group that will run at around 7PM Central time just about every night. I'm looking for all, Healers, Tank, and DPS. Please send me an invite in game, Things to include in the invite, Class/Spec, Past Experience, and the status of your PvP gear, as well as your PvP power if you are a DPS.Kõna1 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 70 Twink Guild Laughing Skull <Paradøx> Is a new 70 twink guild on Laughing Skull alliance, we are looking for any 70 twinks interested in raiding, arenas, or RBGs. If interested in joining message Kudus, Bootsqt, øg, or myself ingame.Kîtana1 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 Midfield heroes -are the equivalent of bots. -are too chicken to duel on the own homeserver -seek remote places away from nodes and flags because they want to fail and die alone. -represent the worst of america: "All I care about is mine, I don't care about the team" -should never be invited to an RBG. -aren't really good players because they only fight stragglers who just want to move along. -do not get as many kills as a good player would if he wasted his time in mid.Maxsteiner11 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 Nerfs? So, who gets nerfed first? And I don't mean the little 180%-160% damage changes, but a ton the ground no one plays that spec anymore nerf. Spriest BM Arms Mages (yea right) Monks (just because they're new)?Goldenbrown51 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 16, 2012 PvP $ No matter how many times I have defended or assaulted nodes, returned or captured flags, escort mine karts, destroy gates, killed giants holding a colorful ball or came out victorious from an arena match...still broke.Prophexor16 Oct 16, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 Crowd Control out of hand Ive learned to deal with most CC's and the fact that there is now triple the amount going out that from any previous expansion. Each class has around 3 or so ccs at their disposal sometimes more. In bigger fights it can be downright ridiculous. I have come up with a few suggestions for how to balance this 1.) Duration Reduction: Reduce the maximum length of all cc's except for slows to a maximum duration of 3s. 2.) Change Diminishing Returns so every type of CC affects it. 3 CC's total and boom immune to everything for 15s. 3.) Give all forms of CC a damage break like on fear. Being cced is fine but its super easy to go from 100% to 0 without being able to move once. This is not good pvp.Vampyrr10 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 debuff is NOT enough I'm tired of this afk crap already. 4 bgs in a row 4+ people where afk. every time they got the debuff they miraculous returned to remove it and afk'd again. This is really annoying. I'm tired of seeing it and applying effort in a bg to see people abuse this so much. Clearly a debuff isn't enough to keep players from afking in a bg. Really need a much more severe penalty for this. Perhaps upon being reported afk by X number of players your restricted from battlegrounds for X days instead of X minutes... Oh but wait if that happened people would QQ oh i was in a bg and got reporetd now i can't enter for half the week and can't do anything. QQ i'm going to unsub........ This i suspect is the reason something like this isn't implemented? or is simply because there's no concern for this abuse? Edit: the one person i noticed got a debuff that said idle after about 10-15 minutes this debuff lasted about a minute. Then they got a debuff that said AFK which lasted i think a minute or 30 seconds. They had almost 15 minutes of afk time and nothing was done about it.Ryeleigh1 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 Hey Blizzard! Sate my desire for statistics! I'm curious which Battlegrounds get downvoted more than others. My guess? 50% Isle 30% AV 15% strand 5% othersSederius7 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 Random Rated Battleground.. Make it happen Blizz wish you guys can make Random Rated Battleground que for people like me who have a tight schedule cant ever make it in time to play with my team. I am pretty sure theres lots of people who wish to play RBG but they cant due to their issues like work, school, etc.. Blizz should make a system just like the Arena, have a Elo (rating system) so that players can meet other teams in their ratings and have a balanced game. Just like in League of Legends players can choose to Play in Rank solo que or premade que i know its not the same but still.. ranking its a big thing :P. WoW is a big game where millions of people play and i am sure that lots of people play this game just for PVP like myself i hope that blizzard can make this possible in the future. We want to play RBG!! (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻Mosés4 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 Here's a macro to show BG scoreboard Have you gotten booted out of a BG because of the change to the score board button? Well, make your own button with this macro: and stop making new posts about it.Kaga10 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 Suggestion: Brand New EPIC BG Forgive me if this is the wrong forum to post this WONDERFUL idea that we all should instantly love. I've been BG'ing a lot lately. A lot more than I usually have on a few of my guys, and I noticed quite a few things that seem to be the constant trend in each and every BG (well almost). You may be able to guess it, but if not, it's the all so ever popular: road fights. Yes, you heard me. Road fighting is absolutely the best thing to do in any and all BGs. Why? Because with a high damage and high healing score you can rest assured knowing that it isn't your fault in any way, shape, or form that you lost. My suggestion you ask? A brand new BG for road-fighters and mid-flag-fighting-lovers everywhere. What's it called? THE ENDLESS ROAD. (I put it in caps because of how awesome it is.) The premise is pretty simple. It's a road. It's super long. Horde starts at the top, alliance starts on the bottom. The objective you may ask? A 4-hour long fight for capturing a flag in the middle of the road that is worth 0 points. That's right. 0 points. At the end of the four hours no team wins, but you get a shot at bragging at the other team, and your fellow team, for 15 minutes about how you topped meters and are at least better than they are. Also some ideas to include are NPCs that yell at you when you offer any sort of suggestion. Why? Because nobody here needs to be told how to spend their $15. It's their time, they do what they want! Have additional ideas for this new and epic BG? Post'em! If you hate it, quit being a hater. Also, I'm 12 wat is this.Flùx8 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 RECRUITING FOR RBG TEAM IS 2200 NEED a Frost Death Knight Ready with at the very least 1 pieces or CLOSE to 2 of malevleont gear for a 2200++++++++++ material rating team (NO XFER REQUIRED JUST MAKE A SCRU G TOON ON SILVERMOON AND WHISPER ME RHAZZY OR HEALZFAULT)Shadowscage0 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 Que times for horde and alliance? Ok so ive noticed that Alliance has a average que time of 5 minutes or less. On my horde characters they have a que time of 1 minute. Whats up with this? O:Darror5 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 The problem with PvP nowadays... Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 pvp gear ratings i need help with a debate... which is better for pvp for a mage at level 90 is it the contender gear which can be bought in the AH or is the gear bought with honor at hellscream fist my cousin assures me it is the contender gear to me that makes no sense however i could not find the stats for the mage only gear any help in the debate will help thankyouDezarin4 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 [H] 2500xp FC LF RBGS hwl/hero/exglad/2500xp 2k CR already been 2200 arena's this season fully geared and enchanted for FC 450k hp, looking for great steady team dont waste my timeJpmz1 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 Bottlegrounds Lost count of how many BGs I've played where majority of the team was bots. They're not even that good. I think we'd all like to see a Captcha system added next patch.Glexelia20 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 2300 RBGS / 2200 Arena Rogue LFG Hello, I am currently looking for a very full time active RBG group, that is wanting to go to the very top of the ladder. I am an experienced played between arena and RBG. I prefer RBGS then arena. Please contact me here or ingame. Thank you.Braka0 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 Bg victory didnt give any conquest points? I just had 2 victorys in a row. One befor the reset and one after. They both should have rewarded 100 points each. But they points didnt show up in my log at the end of the bg. They didnt show up in my weekly earned or in my total conquest points. Im not capped i still need 200 points and those 2 games should have capped me. I got all the points i could for the week from arena and im wondering what the heck is going on? However the random que reward did change from 100 to 50 conquest points each time.. ??????????Ramhard34 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 Ret Paladin LF Active PvP Server! My server pretty much dying out to nothing, any servers/guilds need a active ret for pvp?Metallican1 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 Twin Peak's kite jump Hi Bliz. Remember when the issue came up with horde being able to deterrence parachute from the alliance base in Twin Peaks? Remember how much of a huge adavntage it was for a player to be able to cross half the fieild with the flag untouched? Welcome to take two. Now it's kites. Thanks very much for making the same mistake twice. Yea yea I know out come all the "you can use it too" calls. You can't compare the advantage of doing it with the flag to doing it without. Having half the field to try and return a flag and having the whole thing to try and grind and carry through are hugly different beasts.Madre7 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 Real Estimate for BG Timer I am on an Oceanic and when doing non-top level PVP it can be slow at times. I find it insulting when I get 5-6 minutes and I have to wait 20-40 minutes for a queue to pop. Please fix it so it realistically updates with how long queues are based on the past 10-15min or so. Then I know if it is 40min to forget about wasting my time waiting... Thanks.Penknees0 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 what are the preferred pvp add ons? im so sick of going into a BG and theres 9393939339 totems along with 9393939 pets so i cant target anything. is there a solution to this bull!@#$?Ojdajoozmane4 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 shadow preists screwed this Xpac WOW did they Nerf Shadow priests to the point of broken for Bgs or arenas We now have 1 spell we can instant cast shadow word pain everything else we have to stand still to cast. Melee just have a grand ol time with us. Other casters just have so many forms of silences and CC its not worth playing the game any more.Luming23 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 How is your Win/Loss ratio in Random BG? Today I have a ratio of 1 win 12 losses. The one win was REALLY close, the others were complete failures and some kinda not really close. It's been like this the past several days.... Is there something wrong with Horde players not knowing how to play or something?Kritz3 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 Rated Battlegrounds Hey me and my friend are looking for rated battlegrounds i was previous 2200 RBG 2400 Arena hes 1800 RBG Resto druid im frost any invites for any rating to build up is welcome post me in game if possible thank you (rather others make the team and we join can call targets)Chestycough2 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 Random BGs and Gear. Hiya PVP gurus. im just starting to get into pvp now that i hit 85 (didnt buy mop YET, so until i do was gonna pvp a bit) my question is this: i have on currently a bunch of MOP ilvl pve green items. but i was wondering if i should get the vicious embersilk item set that has less raw stats but more pvp power/resil until i can get better pvp gear. thanksBaxil0 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 Class with the highest skill cap? Just wondering which you think takes that dubious honor. Having switched to a Shaman main for the 80th time in my WoW career I am led to believe Shaman's are definitely in the running, even if they don't take the top slot. A lot going on to play effectively, but so much potential.Shabamsham14 Oct 15, 2012
Oct 15, 2012 What do I do with my honour? Fully honour geared, what can I actually do with it any more? There doesn't seem to be a new honour trade goods vendor around anywhere.Conkz4 Oct 15, 2012