Aug 31, 2011 i wanna roll a pally so what race? i want an alliance race so i can send gold to him. ive narrowed it down to either dranei or human. what do you guys think? Grimlich14 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 Prot vs. Ret Starting to go only PvP with this paladin since PvE is boring and faceroll just getting to 3 holy power and critting. I need to know which is better/more fun for PvP, Prot or Ret spec. Does Prot have good burst damage? Is ret too squishy? What is more wanted in arenas?Crippness4 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 Human Paladins Hello! I wanted to ask the male human paladins of the forum about their opinions of Male Human aesthetics and animations for Paladins. Do you like them? Are you simply okay with them? Do you hate them? Reason I ask is because i'm planning on making a paladin, well, another paladin, and well, i'm thinking about giving Male Human a go, but I thought i'd ask for everyone's opinions and then make my decision. So yeah, any sort of opinion about the Gender/Race would be nice, thanks.Calamity26 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 Ret pvp macro need help. Hello I'm pvp on my ret pally but having trouble figuring out a macro. How do I use BoP on my ally without dropping my current target I'm CS'ing? Muffinsz5 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 Ret PvP: Crit vs Mastery Analysis Disclaimer: These numbers are influenced by my playstyle which is more of a damage/support hybrid. These numbers reflect my gear which is not ideal but is all PvP gear. As we're dealing with percentages, I sincerely doubt the numbers are drastically different at extreme levels of PvP gear. Your mileage my vary and I encourage every Ret paladin out there to run their own recounts to get their own numbers. I'm just sharing mine. Test: To determine if Crit rating or Mastery rating adds more damage to Retribution PvP. Sample: 20 random BGs that did not include Isle, AV, or Strand. 46.2M damage. Premises: Mastery and Crit require the same amount of rating to reach 1 increase. Mastery increases Templar's Verdict and Crusader Strike damage by 2.1% per point. Crit increases all damage by 1% per point. Question: Is 2.1% on Templar's Verdict and Crusader Strike greater than 1% on all damage? Results: On 46.2M PvP damage: Crusader Strike - 19.6% of damage done. Templar's Verdict - 9.2% of damage done. Total: 28.8% of damage done comes from abilities increased by Mastery. Result: For Mastery to trump Crit, these two abilities would have to result in approximately 50% of all damage. They do not come even close for my playstyle and gear. Therefore, Crit not only adds more damage but increases survivability and offhealing via WoG crits. Constructive comments or alternative experiences welcome :) Naruuk10 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 Managing different sets / roles Hiya. I've been thinking about rolling a paladin for being a plate hybrid, but a friend warned me that I'd be able to only fulfill one role at a time, and that I'd never be able to collect more than a set per expansion. I was wondering, how (and if) do you guys manage to have different sets, for healing, tanking and DPS. I mostly want to learn how to heal, and maybe tank. So I could get some PvP healing gear and complement it with PvE as I go, and build a blue tanking set out of crafted gear for a start. If I ever wanted to start dpsing though, I'd have to start from scratch. Are there any of you who have 3 sets at all, or equipment for more than one role at a time? Cheers!Shything5 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 Help a guy out. (try not to laugh) I admit I've tanked a while and have tanked 5/7 heroic FL but I am not a big theory crafting kinda guy so I have some obvious questions. 1) Why is the CTC 102.4% and not 100%? 2) Do you just add up your dodge/parry/block under your defense tab in your character screen to get said number? Does this block include all your mastery? 3) Do we get any of these numbers increased from raid buffs other than kings? (I'm thinking we dont beyond a food buff). 4) Is being CTC capped needed for every boss? Or rather is as valuable for every boss as others? Sorry I'm a baddie I tank well I just am not a big outside game kinda guy for the little details. Your scorn is welcome.Trundrazz4 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 Help a guy out. (try not to laugh) I admit I've tanked a while and have tanked 5/7 heroic FL but I am not a big theory crafting kinda guy so I have some obvious questions. Why is the CTC 102.4% and not 100%? Do you just add up your dodge/parry/block under your defense tab in your character screen to get said number? Does this block include all your mastery? Do we get any of these numbers increased from raid buffs other than kings? (I'm thinking we dont beyond a food buff). Sorry I'm a baddie I tank well I just am not a big outside game kinda guy for the little details. Your scorn is welcome.Trundrazz1 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 Purple Judgement Armor Was wondering if there is a good plate pair of pants that could match this ( other than the original )Varrasong1 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 Hand of Freedom is supposed to make the person immune to all movement impairing effects... Doesn't daze count as movement imparing? My paladin still gets dazed even after I use it.Daring4 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 T12 Hands or Legs! Okay so I'm about to have enough valor for either. Which would be the better upgrade from T11? The legs are nice so I was thinking about them since the hands don't have spirit on them, and I would lose a bunch from replacing gloves. What do you other holy paladins think?Watermelyn4 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 guess what? chicken buttTöñ2 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 Should I come back to WOW on my Ret Pally? How are you folks finding the current Ret PVE and PVP playstyle? Are the abilities still "whack-a-mole" or have the Devs relented and given Ret a sane playstyle yet? A little background: I started playing WOW Nov 11, 2005. This char last time I checked had over 356 days played and the majority of that time was as Ret. I stopped playing a couple of months before Cata came out because I did not like what was going to happen to Ret. I was already pretty unhappy with the Ret playstyle, and ticked off at the PVE nerfs because of PVP like forberance. I have been playing EQII ever since I stopped playing WOW and I have been pretty happy with it so far. However, I am curious. I may come back but only if a sufficient number of people feel that Ret is "worth" playing. Valoris32 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 PvP Armor Set Why didn't we (paladins) get matching boots for a dps pvp spec? I know people are gonna use transmog as an excuse now but this was before transmog. It would have been a lot nicer to have my guy have a matching belt and boots while fighting others.Meekes10 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 Hoy paladin struggle on majordomo Hmm i've been having alot of trouble on domo it seems the other 2 healers way outheal me we normally do 12/6/6/4 dead I heal with a resto shaman, Resto druid, holy pally Is domo a bad fight for paladins it seems if i spam HR i run out of mana before first cat phase i use holy shock and crusader strike to get 3 hopo for the cleaves and they still seem to do substantial amounts of healing over me. If any experienced holy paladin can give me some ideas to help me keep up would be greatly appreciated edit: to fix spelling mistakes Tankiden5 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 Arenas and RBG tips holy paladin What are some basic things i should know about PvP healing. and please tell me what enchants i should add to my gear or gems. just want to know what stats and spells are importantJisame0 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 31, 2011 Prot stam help So Im sitting at CtC cap and have 163k HP with no buffs...... But someone told me my hp was "a little low". IS 163k low on a capped tank?Aurèlia7 Aug 31, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 male BE pally HoJ animation who else laughs when they see it because it looks like their back not only breaks, theyre trying to slam something on your head? makes me think of the carnival game where you test your strength...Nurysa3 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 64 Ret Paladin in Battlegrounds -TWO- New and improved tell me what you guys think I tweaked it based on the reactions my first one got so you should like this more.Majinßuu6 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 [Firebound Gorget] Vs Vp Tanking neck Which is better? Less mastery but I would think the dodge puts the vp slight over the [Firebound Gorget] but I'm not sure. P.S. - not the upgraded [Firebound Gorget] just the regularRhadamir2 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Rate the Pallys name above you! you can even leave what your thoughts are about the name too. dont be a #!@%.Billybeard3 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Buff ret Buff Ret is considrably horrible right now and needs a buff... My best idea give art of war a holy power proc when used, and shorten attack cd's along with returning devine storm to how it was in wrath.Wockaflocka4 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Holy Paladin PVP RBGs Tips please My guild runs rated bgs weekly and sometimes we are short a healer, so I took the recent AV weekend to turn my holy pally into a pvp healer. So I'll confess, I am now 15/17 season 10er, with no pvp healing experience (yah yah, insert scrub av comments here). While I have rbg experience on my lock (1500ish), I have never healed in a pvp context. So some questions - 1) Am I running with too much spirit? 2) Talents okay? 3) What is the main spell being used? I know you shock every chance you get, and word of glory whenever possible, but whats your filler? Is it always FoL casts and rarely HL or is it HL mainly? 4) I assume in flag carry you are beaconing the carrier. In king of the hill are you beaconing yourself or another defender? I assume hpallys always do hill defense cause theyre so annoying for small groups to get rid of, right? Do you ever go on the attack after the initial rush? 5) How do you manage your cooldowns? Which do you use first? 6) Defense tips? I obviously human racial out of the first thing that puts me in trouble, but I often find myself quickly having to bubble and once bubble is gone I dont do well. My lock is destro and it seems like he outlasts this pally against more than one person. 7) All of the auras are kind of crappy for pvp it seems. Ret is worthless, crusader is no good after the initial ride, spell pene negates all of resistance, so that leaves conc (whch is at least good for aura mastery) or devotion. What do you use? 8) Any other random tips?Alys7 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Need a good healing addon Hello forums. I just finished farming for some heirlooms for my holy paladin which I just recently started leveling. I am looking for a specific addon that I have heard might exist among healing addons. If not, any other alternatives are welcome so long as they are easy to use and setup. To the point. I need an addon that will allow me the simply mouse over someone's party frame and cast a heal to heal them without having to click their frame or hit a key to target their frame. I was told something about mouse over macros but it sounded quite confusing to me. If anyone knows of such an addon feel free to share it with me. Thanks in advance =)Darkania9 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Toolbar / Hotkey / UI questions Hi folks. I am returning to WoW after a long absence and have redone my talents in light of the last several expansions. Granted, I didn't play WoW for very long previously either. I am a prot pally who enjoys doing instances. Previously I had one hotkey bar for solo questing (it had a ret/dps focus) and one hotkey bar for instances, which had the hotkeys for all my aoe threat/emergency buttons. I feel like I might be missing something though, because as I level and get more talents I want to utilize regularly, I obviously don't have room for them on my one hotkey bar. I have been adding my slightly less used skills (loh, divine protection) to a second bar that I can flip to, but that is cumbersome. What do you guys do? Do you have extra hotkeys, or do you actually click on the "floating" hotkeys with your mouse? I tried to search for answers to this, but I don't think I had the right search terms. Thanks for your help. P.S. If anyone has an extra moment, I would really appreciate some prot pally explaining how their hotkeys are organized for most- to least-used. ie, what is the rotation that you use while doing instances?Bluepally1 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Thank you Holy I'd like to thank all those Healer types that have saved my sorry !@#$ more than once. Used to LOL an Healidins, 2 button wonders. Well I am here to say I stand corrected. I rolled one to see why Some( Not all ) Holy palies were bad. Well My healer is currently at lvl 30, yea yea I know it gets better higher, but I am starting to see why It can be hard, and fun to play a holy healer. Nothing like the priest, which I had played all the way to Cata, + the ques are much shorter :-) So once again Thanks. And Bliz WTB Healing plate for lower levels, cause at 40 the Shaman gear just doesn't look right :-)Todar0 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Any ret have this problem? I got started late doing rated bg's so I started a few weeks back but it seems even when you are so desperate you will join the people posting LFM Low MMR Rated Battlegrounds I get the response, Ret sucks man can you go holy? or Rets are useless man, your wings get stolen you cant pump out the damage we need...and the ones that do let me join always tell me no at first and then invite me when they can't find another class. It is REALLY annoying and the sad part is I agree with them mostly. I fair well in pvp, but its my skill *i feel im above average* but if you take any of the other melee classess and match them with a ret paladin of equal skill they will destroy you everytime, that's my rant.Bubblewrath23 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 HoJ or WoG? What spec are you all running for pvp as ret? And what for? (BGs/RBGs/Arenas 2s, 3s) Also has anyone messed with Eye for an Eye? I'm tryin it out just cause I'm sick of copying people's specs down to a T. Haha.Lionhært1 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 "BloodKnight" (Yourname) I made this armor set specifcally to tmog, and I am calling it my "BloodKnight" set. Anyway, after completing this, I was thinking that it would be amazing to have the "Bloodknight" title for anyone who has completed the paladin quest line pre cata and earned the tabard and mount. I know allot of new pallies would not be happy about that, but it would be really sweet for those of us who did that stuff when it still required help to complete. Anyway, what's your thoughts on my idea? How about my armor set? What's your "Paladin" armor set going to look like?Oroko2 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Ret Pallies (PvE), CS Slowness & You! I noticed last night during a ZA/ZG run that I seemed to be waiting noticeably longer between attacks than I can recall over the past few weeks anyway. I found myself checking for slow debuffs because it just seemed like there were many times I was counting almost a full 4 seconds while Crusaders Strike came of GC and there were no other procs to hit in the mean time. I bring this up now because for one I know there's been talk that haste may not be as low on the totem pole as it once was but it just seemed to suddenly happen after Tuesday. Now I will state I did upgrade my belt to 378 and my overall Haste is down about 1% from 8% to 7% but my mastery went up almost a point as well from 17.5 t 18.5. However, I'm also wondering if maybe I was just suffering from lag or maybe just happened to have an hour or so of bad procs? The game didn't feel laggy though, only my Crusader Strike GCD and I've never experienced that consistent of bad luck in procs so I'm kind of at a loss. I wanted to see if any other Ret Pallies as of Tuesday's update or recently have experienced an unexpected feeling of overall slower GCD on Crusaders Strike that seemed to leave them feeling like they were literally waiting for at least a full 3 seconds or so to press a button. I feel like this has lowered my dps during the fights overall but my main concern is something felt different. I mean I really thought something was off and it was noticeable. At this point I may attempt to quit using Mr Robot for reforges (which has always done well by me in the past) and reforge out of crit into haste to try to get my haste back up to 8%. Prior to obtaining my belt and reforging, if I am recalling correctly, I had approximately 8% for haste, hit and crit and mastery of about 17ish.Sarvan27 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Prot pally having trouble I am VERY new at tanking. Up til this point on my pally i've been ret and only pvp'd. I've been thinking about making this pally for strictly pve tanking after i hit 85 however im already running into problems in just level 70 dungeons. I constantly run out of mana and never know what seals to use in each pull. Pve is completely different than pvp and its been tough getting the hang of it on my own. Pls help!Jezele5 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Main stats for a Ret Paladin? What are the main stats I should be looking at for my Ret Paladin pvp? What should I get up first and what should I not worry about. Haste, Hit, Crit, Expertise or Mastery?Zirhc5 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Rate the Prot Paladin above you. Bored...Not exactly the best geared, but let's start this.Tyrial0 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Pally Tanks and Threat My first reaction when I enter a troll heroic on my frost dk and I see the tank is a pally is one of exasperation. I've had problems with ripping threat off pretty much every pally tank I've had even though threat just got a buff. Is there a way I can adjust my play style to help aggo management for pally tanks? BTW, I do put tanks on focus so I can assist them, but a lot of the pally tanks I've had swap targets pretty rapidly so it's hard to keep up.Moesyzslak16 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Ret PVP Stats Just Curious as to what follow Ret Pallies Strength, Mastery, Hit and Crit stats are at. I'm almost in full Ruthless and My hit, Crit and Mastery all seem a bit low.Toxisety14 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Ret pally dps I felt that during the BoT and BWD raids ret pallys pulled competitive dps compared to other classes. I occasionally topped dps charts. In the present tier 12, it feels like our dps is much lower in comparison to the top dps classes. My question is, would our dps be even lower for tier 13? If that's the case, it would be better to gear an alt for the next raid tier.Leonji9 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 paladin t2 judgement set so if this is the wrong place to post this im sorry but im getting mixed answers im lvling a pally and i want the t2 set it looks cool and id like to have it but i cant find if it still drops and from what raids any help would be awesome thanks :)Ninjadude11 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 From here on out... The only acceptable Paladin races are Human (Male/Female), BE (Female/FeMALE), Dreanei (Female). All else are monstrosities.Kimikaro13 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 BG chat i have a question about communication in BGs. so i was in this BG and a smart@@# lock had the gull to say " you fail" and " your dead, can i have your boots and " dont worry, ill take care of your girl" in chat window after i died. now- he didnt say it directly to me or whisper it to me, but i did notice that in [--] it said common.. as so [common]. i was under the impression that communication between fractions wasnt possible. just would like to know how that was possible. i tried to do something similar, but couldnt get it to work. i do have to admit what he said was hilarious, but not so much if i cant do it alsoMóurnblade4 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Ret Pallies are nerfed BIG TIME I have raided with 3 guilds--I am number 3 on my server Ret Pally--We are at the bottom of the DPS chart period--And I hate to say --but 99 pct of the people that play this game DPS is the major factor-of keeping or dropping a player! Every class out DPS's us with equal gear!--Every--unless you have someone that does not know their class! ASK any top play--RET pally is the worst mdps!--period--I hope WoW fixes this!Killbilly21 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Female Dwarf Paladins! Am I the only one? :(Mogriya5 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 -wave- new pally, hello!Imbluu4 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Boots Hey, I just started raiding with my guild, funest thing in the game in my opinion. I just looted Life Force Chargers and before i had Eternal Pathfinders..Cant decide on what to use. Etermal pathfinders have critical strike rating which i kind of need as a pally, any help would be appreciated.Caterina6 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Best professions for pally? What's the best prof for pallies?Lostlock10 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Insta-Heals for all! Who needs to cast anymore? Lol shock for 40k Lol Wog for 60k Yes!Locknrolled15 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 holy pally arena Hey. Guys im gunna start arenas again ending last season in 2 K ratting in 2's and 3's.....I was wondering if I should use the heroic eye of blazing powertrinket instead of the hp trinket Kim wearing...also if anything I should change let me know :)Lilshadooww6 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Holy Newbie - Gear question Hi there, just a quick question. As a holy paladin is it wrong for me to be using the current shield I have equipped? I've been lvling through rdf and gearing as I go for int & spirit, atm it seems this is the best I can find. I've been thown alittle doubt recently and it's mainly why I ask. A tank asked me where my holy spec gear was on entering a random dungeon, the run went fine no one died once, didn't oom. But if someone could set me straight i'd really appreciate it :) Thanks in advance.Delaina3 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 30, 2011 Glyph of Exorcism vs Glyph of Crusader Strike Just wondering if anyone has done any recent testing on which one is better for ret. Because looking at it seems like Crusader Strike might actually be a bigger dps increase since it's always going to be up and with talents it will easily have around a 40% crit chance. Wouldn't that also greatly boost our dps from mastery also? Again just curious because I'm trying to find that small thing that might help boost my dps, and lately it seems like I'm getting hardly any procs. Edit: Also completely forgot that our t12 two piece bonus is also based around Crusader Strike.Leonaris3 Aug 30, 2011
Aug 29, 2011 pvp stats quick questions about my str. i gem all str. and i get 5063 when i equip this trinket- vicious emblem tenacity, which gives me 3783 resill. but at times i really like to use my dwyers caber trinket, for a 340 str. boost which puts me at 5420, but i get 3443 resill. so i geuss my question/ questions would be - whats is the average str. for a ret pally and should i abandon the str. trinket idea?óurnblade2 Aug 29, 2011
Aug 29, 2011 Behold. Sulfuras! For our holy paladin.Tritonis18 Aug 29, 2011