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Professions
02/11/2011 2:30 AMPosted by Aimaros
No thank you from me on making things easy.


it's not about easy or hard, the process itself is easy. its about the process working in a straightforward or definable manner. the current system is just a slot machine you pay with time.

there are so many simple ways they could have avoided these problems before pushing this profession to live. there are still so many ways they could fix it, and not by making it "easier" or even doing anything to the drop rates.
02/10/2011 11:13 AMPosted by Nethaera
Hey just wanted to say thank you blizz for the improvements to acheaology. More Tol Vir sites and you make some decent coin while farming it. : ) thanks guys!


Great to hear that the change is helping. We'll continue keeping a close eye on things.


I think it would be a good idea to mess with the vendor values even more. Make all of them ~20g average artifact with fossil being 25-30g.
02/10/2011 7:45 PMPosted by Kørupt
It's a time sink. Deal with it and stop crying. Nobody is putting a gun on your head to do it.


What a stupid comment. But you probably already knew that and is why you chose to post on your level 6 alt.


Would it make a difference if i posted on a lvl 40, lvl 80, lvl 85 toon? My superhypermegadyper geared main toon of doom? Don't be an idiot, please. The point is that you're CRYING over something that is working as it should. Archaeology isn't there to give you free epics in absence of actual skills to farm the extremely easy regular raids and get a weapon, or win 20 arena games to buy a dumbly easy to get weapon for your toon, it's simply a way to make you stay logged in more time doing whatever, or burn some time while waiting for a heroic/battleground queue.

Sure, the prof probably has tons of flaws, and room for a lot of improvement, but that's not the point. The main objective (making you spend time ingame) is being achieved successfully, and even though i keep seeing laughable crying posts like yours, people still dig dig dig dig. Don't like how it works? Don't do it, as simple as that.

What you are doing is like a casino customer crying to the manager because he lost at the jackpot machines. Don't like gambling?

It's a time sink. Deal with it and stop crying. Nobody is putting a gun on your head to do it.
No one held a gun to your head telling you to post such a meaningless comment. However, you did.

Here some questions for all the people who give this lame ass response.

How many people would really enjoy wow without wowhead? Let's say (100 mounts) Without wowhead I am left to gather info from the community. No problem.. Someone is bound to put up with my endless questioning of what mount is next... After a list of 77 mounts.. Just an example..

How about add-ons? Sure, the game is playable without add-ons, but sometimes we need to remember not to stand in that pile of ooze causing damage over time. How about, how can we tell who is lowest dps to most effective heals? I'm sure we wont need an add on there.

With these small examples, blizzard has left it to the community to do most of THEIR answering.

I can honestly say, I don't expect them to answer. As I have the forums, trade chat or wowhead to give me some actual input.

TL:DR
Nothing useful to say.


Wonderful. However, it's not me crying about something that isn't broken. Don't like a straight, honest answer? I'm too sorry for you. Can't expect everyone to give you the answers you wanna hear, can you?
02/11/2011 3:52 PMPosted by Helmuth
Would it make a difference if i posted on a lvl 40, lvl 80, lvl 85 toon? My superhypermegadyper geared main toon of doom?


The fact that you chose to post such a stupid comment on a level 6 alt means you already knew that your post was going to make you look like a complete moron. I'm not going to get into why your post was so stupid because I think you know why.


02/11/2011 3:52 PMPosted by Helmuth
The point is that you're CRYING over something that is working as it should.


02/11/2011 3:52 PMPosted by Helmuth
Sure, the prof probably has tons of flaws, and room for a lot of improvement, but that's not the point.


So the profession was meant to be heavily flawed and require lots of work to improve it? Good job contradicting yourself and making yourself like an idiot.

02/11/2011 3:52 PMPosted by Helmuth
Sure, the prof probably has tons of flaws, and room for a lot of improvement, but that's not the point.


This IS the whole point. The profession is heavily flawed and needs to be improved. This is why myself and tons of people are complaining and really frustrated with how this profession works. Things don't get fixed if people don't say anything. Especially in this game. I'm glad you can just take whatever garbage gets thrown at you and deal with it. Must be nice being such a simple minded little troll.

It's like going to a restaurant and you order a steak. Then they come out and serve you bone. You should just accept it because that's the way they serve it right? What an idiot.

have any one considered that archeology system is literally a lotery game. Only one player get to win one piece of lvl85 epic per week per server and after that no one in the same server cant one another until next week?
Also, I'm not asking a free epic. I'm asking for there to be some sort of reward for time put in. I'm asking for there to be some sort of progression with this profession. I'm asking for an end to this frustrating, mindless grind against layers of RNGs.

217 troll solves and I have absolutely nothing to show for it and no end in sight to this grind. No responses to encountered bugs, no statements of planned improvements for this profession, no acknowledgment of the flaws with this profession, no acknowledgment of players frustration. No nothing. Just left to keep grinding.
Meh, I'm fine with archeo being what it is. a time waster, just like fishing. Frankly its more or less like the other secondary professions. Cooking, fishing, and first aid are useful for a while and then kinda just go stale. Archeo is stale all the way through with some useful spritzed in. It gives me something to do while I listen to podcasts and audio books. Its a time waster and that's what i love about it.
Wrong, wrong, and wrong.
1. I've posted in this guy since a long time. Not like posting on another toon holds any relevance other than allowing you armorytroll another toon, which is completely off topic, although it may make you feel amazing and cool.

2. Archaeology's main goal is to keep you busy grinding ingame, period. English, do you understand it? Eventually they may "fix" stuff due to people complaints, maybe they won't, because nothing's really broken about it, just room to add more stuff to it or something. Your luck simply sucks, nothing can be done about that. Maybe if absolutely nobody had ever found that troll sword (or any other rare), you may have had a point. We both know that's not the case, so move on and keep digging/quit arch. Refer to the crying gambler example of my previous post.

3. Open your browser, and check for gambling. Tell me what you find, if you're able to do that without shedding a tear on your way there. Rng is Rng. It's been like that since this game was launched, and your tears won't change that.

For the third time, if you don't like it, you don't have to do it. The end to your frustration lies in your hands.
02/11/2011 5:31 PMPosted by Helmuth
Archaeology's main goal is to keep you busy grinding ingame, period.


Really? Because you say so? Are you the one that designed this profession and meant for it to waste peoples time and keep them grinding for something they may never get? I never read anywhere that this was the main goal of this profession.

Blizz put highly sought epic items into this profession. By doing that many peoples goals when they started this profession were to obtain those items. I don't like being lured into a grind where there might not be an end. Had I known the odds were so horrible I would never have started this profession.

Stop comparing this to gambling. Why don't you check your browser for gambling. If I go to Vegas do I have to travel the entire city looking for specific slot machines? And when I get to that slot machine do I have a certain amount of plays before I have to travel the city looking for another machine? And what about poker? Yea, you are dealt random cards but still can determine the outcome by how you play your hand.

We get its all RNG based but that's where the problem lies. They can still implement a system where there is some sort of progression within this profession and still keep the RNG aspect of it.

It's obvious you don't want to see any changes in this profession. For what reason you feel you have to defend this profession in its current state and come here to tell people to stop complaining, I don't know.

I'm done trying to talk to a complete idiot. Do us both a favor and just stop posting and stop quoting my posts. There is a 37 page thread of people frustrated with this profession. Why don't you go troll someone else and hop off my sack.
You still don't get it, do you? Your luck blows, period. It's a simple time sink. My tyrande's doll, my tol-vir mount, sirocco lightsaber, my epic ring and many other artifacts i've managed to obtain prove you wrong. And i didn't even need to spend monumental amounts of time digging to obtain them, which is wonderful. Progression in gambling, lol, now that's a funny one. Yes, kind sir, this is pretty much like gambling. You're running against the odds, and sometimes you'll get the jackpot, sometimes you won't. I'm sorry to hear you haven't, despite your titanic efforts.

I don't want changes? Heck, something to spice it up would be great. I do not, however, claim the whole thing is broke because my luck sucks, and cry like a baby about it. I don't give a crap if everyone wants to cry about it, majority doesn't prove this particular aspect of the game is broke, it simply proves a lot of people have terrible luck and can't deal with it. At the same time, everyone keeps digging, which is delightfully ironical.

Wanna call me a troll for being honest? Be my guest. Good luck with frustrating yourself even more by self inflicting more pain in search of a sword that can be easily replaceable by killing a facerollable raid boss or a couple weeks of conquest points. You cry because you wanna cry, nobody's fault.
02/11/2011 3:52 PMPosted by Helmuth
The point is that you're CRYING over something that is working as it should. Archaeology isn't there to give you free epics in absence of actual skills to farm the extremely easy regular raids
BTW, herb gathering + inscription = faster epics and MORE gold then this profession can offer per hour/day/month. When you get down to the rock bottom of their so called crying.. I don't think you even understand. You obviously lack the skills to comprehend what some of the people even say.

Have a nice day!

02/11/2011 5:31 PMPosted by Helmuth
1. I've posted in this guy since a long time. Not like posting on another toon holds any relevance other than allowing you armorytroll another toon, which is completely off topic, although it may make you feel amazing and cool.

to quote you, Wrong, wrong, and wrong.

Posting on a toon other than your main means that you want a posting persona which is different from your game persona which is a clear sign that you don't want accountability on your main. Providing another layer of anonymity in a place where you're already anonymous is pretty pointless and undermines everything you say.

In this particular case, "armorytroll" is valid. If you haven't done archeology, then the armory will show it, which means you're the one trolling.

2. Archaeology's main goal is to keep you busy grinding ingame, period.

Unless you're secretly Ghostcrawler, you can't say this with any certainty.

Yes, the goal of the game is to keep people playing (and paying), but purposefully adding the type of grind that Blizzard has historically been against can't be what they intended. They or change this kind of thing because they know that players don't like it, and stuff the players don't like tends to lose them subscriptions.

3. Open your browser, and check for gambling. Tell me what you find, if you're able to do that without shedding a tear on your way there. Rng is Rng. It's been like that since this game was launched, and your tears won't change that.

RNG is fine, multi-layer RNG is an entirely different animal.

For the third time, if you don't like it, you don't have to do it. The end to your frustration lies in your hands.

So, quit the game then?
I love the tol'vir spawn rate but can you up nerubians?
I myself am taking a break from arch to maintain my sanity. I powerleveled it earlier this week, have about 300 solves total.... 12 rares including all NE but the trinket. (Don't really need the trinket but it would be nice for my Priest alt)

1 usable rare.. the ring. I've been in Kalimdor pretty much all week though for Tol'vir, and now that that's out of the way I plan to switch over to Eastern Kingdoms and work more on Dwarf.

In a day or two... :-)
02/12/2011 9:16 AMPosted by Zeroke
I love the tol'vir spawn rate but can you up nerubians?


They added one more in Northrend and 2 more in Eastern Kingdoms, which gives them a higher chance to appear.
Great to hear that the change is helping. We'll continue keeping a close eye on things.


This really got a blue? Way to take some praise now let's see some more blues on some stuff that actually needs it.
02/10/2011 1:55 PMPosted by Xadoryl
What's this about more frequent Tolvir digsites? That was never mentioned in the patch notes.

It's undocumented.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Patch_4.0.6_(undocumented_changes)
Seven new Tol'Vir Dig Sites in Uldum added: Akhenet Fields, Obelisk of the Stars, Sakhet Wastes, Schnottz's Landing, Neferset City, Cursed Landing and Lost City of the Tol'Vir.

Four new Nerubian Dig Sites: Plaguewood, Terrorweb Tunnel, Pit of Fiends, Sands of Nasam
02/11/2011 9:03 PMPosted by Helmuth
You still don't get it, do you? Your luck blows, period. It's a simple time sink. My tyrande's doll, my tol-vir mount, sirocco lightsaber, my epic ring and many other artifacts i've managed to obtain prove you wrong. And i didn't even need to spend monumental amounts of time digging to obtain them, which is wonderful.


You must be an alliance.... FLAME ON! :)
Hey just wanted to say thank you blizz for the improvements to acheaology. More Tol Vir sites and you make some decent coin while farming it. : ) thanks guys!

Edited by Nethaera on 2/10/11 7:13 PM (UTC


WOW REALLY!? Its very laughable to see a Blue reply post regarding an OP that was edited by the Blue Poster. I have lost a ton of respect for blizturd

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